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LWW
01-25-2011, 03:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A much-overlooked comment by Barack Obama is getting a closer examination now that Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie has come up short in his plan to take care of a pressing election 2012 concern for the Democrats by producing Obama's birth certificate from the state's archives.

The comment, by Obama himself at a 2009 international meeting, suggested he was born eight months earlier than when his official story has claimed all along.

Freudian slip, misstatement or the truth leaking out?

It was in April 19, 2009, at a press conference Obama gave at the Port of Spain in Trinidad and Tobago, Obama commented on a 90-minute diatribe that had been delivered by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega at the meeting the day before, and Obama suggested he was born in January 1961, three months before the Bay of Pigs invasion.

Specifically, Obama rejected Ortega's attack on the United States for the attempted Bay of Pigs invasion during the Kennedy administration by explaining: "I'm grateful President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old."

The Bay of Pigs invasion happened in 1961 and blotted the presidency of John F. Kennedy, according to a report from his presidential library:

"The disaster at the Bay of Pigs had a lasting impact on the Kennedy administration. Determined to make up for the failed invasion, the administration initiated Operation Mongoose – a plan to sabotage and destabilize the Cuban government and economy. The plan included the possibility of assassinating [dictator Fidel] Castro. Almost 50 years later, relations between Castro's Cuba and the United States remain strained and tenuous."

But the Bay of Pigs invasion happened in April of that year and the official birth date given for Obama is Aug. 4, 1961. To have been born three months before the Bay of Pigs invasion would have placed President Obama's birth date in January 1961.

Obama's comment that he was born three months before the Bay of Pigs invasion was reported by Fox News, the Christian Science Monitor, and ABC News. </div></div>

Thye hole gets deeper each day. (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=255297)

LWW

Qtec
01-25-2011, 05:05 AM
Anyone who quotes WND has no shame.

This whole story basically says that obama got the date of the Bay of Pigs invasion wrong. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>BIG WOW!</span>

Q

LWW
01-25-2011, 05:07 AM
So ... your defense is that Obama being off on a date has no relevance, but Scooter Libby being off on a date justifies jail time?

Pitiful, pitiful, pitiful.

LWW

Qtec
01-25-2011, 05:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So ... your defense is that Obama being off on a date has no relevance, </div></div>

Yes.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but Scooter Libby being off on a date justifies jail </div></div>

Scooter lied to the Feds and in doing so obstructed an Federal investigation. There is no comparison between the two.

Q

Sev
01-25-2011, 08:50 AM
Ahhh. Hmmmmm.

Soflasnapper
01-25-2011, 04:33 PM
I think there's a time warp effect for Democrats.

Cf: how Hillary got her name from Sir Edmund Hillary, although he hadn't come to attention as the conqueror of Mt. Everest until well after her birth.

Or Bill, for that matter, meeting Paula Jones for their trysting at the Excelsior Hotel, several years before it was built.

Never underestimate the trickiness of Democrats with time-warp capabilities.

LWW
01-25-2011, 05:04 PM
I love watching leftists freak out when they see flaws in dear leader's mythology.

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-25-2011, 05:43 PM
Obama has seen the future, and it is 55 states.

Qtec
01-26-2011, 06:00 AM
The Republicans have seen the future. Enslave the working class, build a wall around CA and send all the criminals/Dems/Socialists there.

In the last 40 years the wealth has been redistributed, from the masses to the few. The GOP want to go further.

Its a power grab is what it is. First Citizens United and now this attempt do abolish Govt funding for Pres elections.

A blind man can see it. They aim to make the electorate irrelevant.

Q

LWW
01-26-2011, 06:42 AM
Where was your outrage when dear leader swore he would run a publicly funded campaign and then, once nominated, decided he would rather go for the ChiCom/Wall Street/Arab/Soros money?

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-26-2011, 06:04 PM
"dear leader swore" = LWW makes up facts not otherwise in evidence.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Charlie Black, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain, charged that Mr. Obama had “broken his word.”

In fact, Mr. Obama stopped short of making a flat promise to participate in the public financing system. Asked in a questionnaire whether he would take part if his opponents did the same, Mr. Obama wrote yes. But he added, “If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”

Mr. Obama has since said that he would only agree to such a deal if Mr. McCain agreed to curtail spending by the Republican Party and independent groups.</div></div>

"Yes" = an oath?

LWW
01-27-2011, 03:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"dear leader swore" = LWW makes up facts not otherwise in evidence.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Charlie Black, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain, charged that Mr. Obama had “broken his word.”

In fact, Mr. Obama stopped short of making a flat promise to participate in the public financing system. Asked in a questionnaire whether he would take part if his opponents did the same, Mr. Obama wrote yes. But he added, “If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”

Mr. Obama has since said that he would only agree to such a deal if Mr. McCain agreed to curtail spending by the Republican Party and independent groups.</div></div>

"Yes" = an oath?

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The only questions are:

1 - Were you spoon fed a truncated quote which you obligingly swallowed whole without qualm nor trepidation?

2 - Did you willfully truncate the quote for the intent to deceive?

The bottom line ... and I suppose why you didn't link to it ... is that the quote you offer is a gross distortion of reality.

The quote, in it's entirety:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>"I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests.</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>I introduced public financing legislation in the Illinois State Senate, and am the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold's (D-WI) bill to reform the presidential public financing system.</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. </span><span style='font-size: 17pt'>My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge.</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."</span>
Nov. 27, 2007 Barack Obama</div></div>

OH DEAR! (http://2008election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=1667)

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-27-2011, 07:45 AM
So you admit it was a conditional offer?

LWW
01-27-2011, 10:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So you admit it was a conditional offer? </div></div>

We've always been at war with Eastasia haven't we.

LWW

LWW
01-27-2011, 10:32 AM
And, for the insufferable nits of the world, Barack Hussein Obama Junior abandoned public funding of his campaign ... John Sidney McCain did not.

Any efforts to spin that into the belief that Obama made a conditional agreement that he backed out of because the other side backed out is just silly.

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-27-2011, 11:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And, for the insufferable nits of the world, Barack Hussein Obama Junior abandoned public funding of his campaign ... John Sidney McCain did not.

Any efforts to spin that into the belief that Obama made a conditional agreement that he backed out of because the other side backed out is just silly.

LWW </div></div>

In his response, Obama laid down the predicate for his willingness to stay in the matching fund/limited spending public financing system.

It was to come to some agreement about outside funding sources overwhelming what the parties and presidential campaigns raised, to limit them.

The record is clear that he said that (from your own 'correction,' for one place). He had his lawyer talk to the McCain campaign lawyer, and when there was no common ground to be found on this point, he decided to match the GOP+others by himself, and raised and spent more than Bush and Kerry raised and spent in total.

LWW
01-28-2011, 03:05 AM
Oh please.

Now you are just being silly again.

Dear leader pulled out of the public financing as soon as he had the nimination.

It was something he never intended to do, he withdrew even though the opposition stuck with PF, and he did it because he knew the O-cult would defend him no matter what he said or did ... as they are doing.

LWW