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Qtec
01-25-2011, 06:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The GOP's Campaign Finance "Sneak Attack" </div></div>

This can't be true.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> On Wednesday, <span style="color: #990000">House Republicans plan to rush to the floor a bill that would eliminate the federal government's presidential financing system—in the process, </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>violating recent pledges by the GOP's leadership of increased transparency and debate in Congress. <u>Not one hearing has been held on the legislation, nor has a single commitee debated its merits.</u></span> <u>If it passes, it will roll back more than 30 years of law born out of the Watergate scandal, eviscerating one of the few remaining protections stopping corporations from heavily influencing, if not outright buying, American elections, reform experts say.</u>

Democratic lawmakers and campaign finance reformers blasted the bill, not only for seeking to kill public financing but for breaking the GOP's campaign promises on transparency and accountability. "This is a sneak attack on the system," says Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.). <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"It's a total break from their public pledge for transparency and openness."</span> Fred Wertheimer, a longtime campaign finance reform advocate at Democracy 21, called the bill <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"a gross abuse of the legislative process."</span></div></div>


I don't believe it. After all, John gave us his word.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">House Republicans' much-touted "Pledge to America" bashed Democrats for "limiting openness and debate" during the legislative process and <span style='font-size: 17pt'>vowed</span> to <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"ensure that bills are debated and discussed in the public square."</span> <span style='font-size: 17pt'>The Pledge</span> says the GOP <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"will fight to ensure transparency and accountability </span>in Congress and throughout government." <span style='font-size: 20pt'>And in House Speaker John Boehner's first remarks after taking control of Congress' lower chamber, <span style="color: #3333FF">he spoke of a greater emphasis on "real transparency" and "greater accountability."</span> He went on, "Above all else, we will welcome the battle of ideas, encourage it, and engage in it—openly, honestly, and respectfully."</span> </div></div>

Do they ALL have Alzheimer's?

Is it in the genes?

Q

Q

Gayle in MD
01-25-2011, 08:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The GOP's Campaign Finance "Sneak Attack" </div></div>

This can't be true.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> On Wednesday, <span style="color: #990000">House Republicans plan to rush to the floor a bill that would eliminate the federal government's presidential financing system—in the process, </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>violating recent pledges by the GOP's leadership of increased transparency and debate in Congress. <u>Not one hearing has been held on the legislation, nor has a single commitee debated its merits.</u></span> <u>If it passes, it will roll back more than 30 years of law born out of the Watergate scandal, eviscerating one of the few remaining protections stopping corporations from heavily influencing, if not outright buying, American elections, reform experts say.</u>

Democratic lawmakers and campaign finance reformers blasted the bill, not only for seeking to kill public financing but for breaking the GOP's campaign promises on transparency and accountability. "This is a sneak attack on the system," says Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.). <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"It's a total break from their public pledge for transparency and openness."</span> Fred Wertheimer, a longtime campaign finance reform advocate at Democracy 21, called the bill <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"a gross abuse of the legislative process."</span></div></div>


I don't believe it. After all, John gave us his word.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">House Republicans' much-touted "Pledge to America" bashed Democrats for "limiting openness and debate" during the legislative process and <span style='font-size: 17pt'>vowed</span> to <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"ensure that bills are debated and discussed in the public square."</span> <span style='font-size: 17pt'>The Pledge</span> says the GOP <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"will fight to ensure transparency and accountability </span>in Congress and throughout government." <span style='font-size: 20pt'>And in House Speaker John Boehner's first remarks after taking control of Congress' lower chamber, <span style="color: #3333FF">he spoke of a greater emphasis on "real transparency" and "greater accountability."</span> He went on, "Above all else, we will welcome the battle of ideas, encourage it, and engage in it—openly, honestly, and respectfully."</span> </div></div>

Do they ALL have Alzheimer's?

Is it in the genes?

Q

Q </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Lying Crooks!

McConnell already said he had only ONE goal, and that is to win the presidency.

Even Scarborough, as Rightwing as they come, said it was a disgrace, when MCConnell made that statement.

It is their only goal, obstructing progress, as usual.

Representative Saunders, will force them to the floor, and make them vote on SS and Medicare. We need to show Americans, just how cut-throat Republicans are, and highlight that their ONLY constituency, is to pander to the wealthy top one percent, the same ones who bought and p[aid for every one of their seats in the lalst election..</span>

Sev
01-25-2011, 08:36 AM
I see the text size is increasing. Interesting.

pooltchr
01-25-2011, 11:40 AM
Well, it seems an awful lot of people know what is in the bill...which couldn't be said for the Obamacare bill. So, if they know what's in it, they either agree with it or they don't. If they agree, they vote for it. If they don't, they vote against it.
It will either pass or it won't, based on how everyone feels about it.

So what's the problem?

Steve

eg8r
01-25-2011, 01:08 PM
More hypocrisy from the left.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
01-25-2011, 03:34 PM
Many moons passed and more the dream grew strong, until tomorrow
He would sing his first war song,
And fight his first battle, but something went wrong,
Suprise attack killed him in his sleep that night

And so castles made of sand, melts into the sea eventually.

J. Hendrix

Qtec
01-26-2011, 02:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, it seems an awful lot of people know what is in the bill...which couldn't be said for the Obamacare bill. So, if they know what's in it, they either agree with it or they don't. If they agree, they vote for it. If they don't, they vote against it.
It will either pass or it won't, based on how everyone feels about it.

So what's the problem?

Steve </div></div>

This is totally the opposite from what you have been saying for the last 2 years.

Remember this? link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efD6wuhHpQ)

Q

LWW
01-26-2011, 03:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The GOP's Campaign Finance "Sneak Attack" </div></div>

This can't be true.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> On Wednesday, <span style="color: #990000">House Republicans plan to rush to the floor a bill that would eliminate the federal government's presidential financing system—in the process, </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>violating recent pledges by the GOP's leadership of increased transparency and debate in Congress. <u>Not one hearing has been held on the legislation, nor has a single commitee debated its merits.</u></span> <u>If it passes, it will roll back more than 30 years of law born out of the Watergate scandal, eviscerating one of the few remaining protections stopping corporations from heavily influencing, if not outright buying, American elections, reform experts say.</u>

Democratic lawmakers and campaign finance reformers blasted the bill, not only for seeking to kill public financing but for breaking the GOP's campaign promises on transparency and accountability. "This is a sneak attack on the system," says Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.). <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"It's a total break from their public pledge for transparency and openness."</span> Fred Wertheimer, a longtime campaign finance reform advocate at Democracy 21, called the bill <span style='font-size: 17pt'>"a gross abuse of the legislative process."</span></div></div>


I don't believe it. After all, John gave us his word.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">House Republicans' much-touted "Pledge to America" bashed Democrats for "limiting openness and debate" during the legislative process and <span style='font-size: 17pt'>vowed</span> to <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"ensure that bills are debated and discussed in the public square."</span> <span style='font-size: 17pt'>The Pledge</span> says the GOP <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"will fight to ensure transparency and accountability </span>in Congress and throughout government." <span style='font-size: 20pt'>And in House Speaker John Boehner's first remarks after taking control of Congress' lower chamber, <span style="color: #3333FF">he spoke of a greater emphasis on "real transparency" and "greater accountability."</span> He went on, "Above all else, we will welcome the battle of ideas, encourage it, and engage in it—openly, honestly, and respectfully."</span> </div></div>

Do they ALL have Alzheimer's?

Is it in the genes?

Q

Q </div></div>

I can never figure out if you are just so filled with partisan hate that they play you so easily ... or if you are actually so woefully ignorant of how the system works ... or both.

How can you have hearings on a bill prior to that bill being introduced?

LWW

Qtec
01-26-2011, 04:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How can you have hearings on a bill prior to that bill being introduced?

LWW </div></div>

If they are introducing a bill and having an immediate up or down vote, where is the debate? Is it online for all to see?



Where is the..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">we will welcome the battle of ideas, encourage it, and engage in it—openly, honestly, and respectfully </div></div>

?????????????????????????





<span style='font-size: 17pt'>So much for the PLEDGE.</span>

Q........they broke there own rules on day one and have only broken more promises since then. They have proven in such a short time what liars they are.

LWW
01-26-2011, 05:30 AM
Yet you have presented nothing that actually suggests what you accuse them of.

LWW

Qtec
01-26-2011, 05:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yet you have presented nothing that actually suggests what you accuse them of.

LWW </div></div>


DENIAL.

Q

Gayle in MD
01-26-2011, 08:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, it seems an awful lot of people know what is in the bill...which couldn't be said for the Obamacare bill. So, if they know what's in it, they either agree with it or they don't. If they agree, they vote for it. If they don't, they vote against it.
It will either pass or it won't, based on how everyone feels about it.

So what's the problem?

Steve </div></div>

This is totally the opposite from what you have been saying for the last 2 years.

Remember this? link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efD6wuhHpQ)

Q </div></div>

More denial, from the man who stated throughout the Bush Administration's spend-borrow-deregulate-cut taxes-wage war failed policies, which crashed the economy, that the deficits, didn't matter.

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Since the Republicans spent us into this debt ditch, and their policies crashed the economy, it is no surprise that they don't get that the worst thing to do at thhis time, is fail to invest in our future, bring about higher taxes for the wealthy, who don't spend most of their money, anyway, and give tax cuts, to the small business man, which Obama is already doing, and has been doing, and which is the ONLY way to create jobs, and grow the economy.

Infrastructure investment. Education investment. Clean Fuel investment. Removing tax loopholes, for the wealthy, ending subsidies for those corporations who outsource jobs. We need a single payer health care amendment to the Health Care bill.

Oil costs, health care and health insurance for profit, Wall Street corruption, must all be addressed.


Republicans are against everything we need to do at this time.
they made the mess, and now they want to make it all worse!

pooltchr
01-26-2011, 08:37 AM
Yeah...and Obama and the dems for the last two years have done such a wonderful job of getting spending under control. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Do a little research and see just how our national debt has grown in the last 6 years when the Dems had control of congress.

Obama wants to freeze spending for 5 years. Why would he not suggest rolling spending levels back to the level we had before he took office???

Oh, never mind. That would mean we REALLY couldn't afford Obamacare!

Steve

LWW
01-26-2011, 10:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since the Republicans spent us into this debt ditch, and their policies crashed the economy</div></div>

And there, in a nutshell, is your real problem ... you start out with wrong assumptions and that can only lead to wrong conclusions.

1 - The republicans were far from true fiscal conservatives, but from FY 1996 through FY 2007 they were the closest to a fiscally conservative congress we have had since pre FDR days.

2 - The current democrook annual deficit is running at 950% of what the last republichicken deficit. You can bleat and howl all you like, that won't change the facts that the fiscal "MESS" they inherited was a paradise compared to what they have created.

3 - The dems helped crash the economy with the CRA under Jimmuh Cahtuh and the democrooks.

4 - The reps helped tank the economy when they went along with Billy Jeff Clinton and repealed Glass-Stegall.

5 - They both helped tank the economy by allowing large swaths of both parties to be bought off by Wall St concerns.

6 - The US people helped tank the economy by not paying attention to who was minding the store.

7 - Your shameless defense of all things democrook and loving obedience to dear leader is the type of behavior thugocrats throughout history have counted on.

LWW

Soflasnapper
01-26-2011, 05:50 PM
3 - The dems helped crash the economy with the CRA under Jimmuh Cahtuh and the democrooks.

4 - The reps helped tank the economy when they went along with Billy Jeff Clinton and repealed Glass-Stegall.

Widely claimed, but there is no evidence that either is true, and a lot of evidence that neither is true.

LWW
01-26-2011, 06:03 PM
Oh please.

You are demonstrating yourself to be just another spoon fed leftist with each passing post.

Be honest ... without googling you had no idea what Glass-Stegall even was, nor can you make a cogent argument as to why it's repeal was anything but a direct cause of this mess.

Prove me wrong.

LWW