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LWW
02-01-2011, 09:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">End of 19th century–1948

In the late 19th century, under Zionism, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>many European Jews purchased swamps and other desert land from the Ottoman sultan and his agents.</span> At that time, Jerusalem did not extend beyond the walled area and had a population of only a few tens of thousands. Under the Zionists, collective farms, known as kibbutzim, were established, as was the first entirely Jewish city in modern times, Tel Aviv.

Before World War I, the Middle East, including Palestine, had been under the control of the Ottoman Empire for nearly 500 years. During the closing years of their empire the Ottomans began to espouse their Turkish ethnic identity, asserting the primacy of Turks within the empire, leading to discrimination against the Arabs.[12] The promise of liberation from the Ottomans led many Jews and Arabs to support the allied powers during World War I, leading to the emergence of widespread Arab nationalism.

In 1917, the British government issued the Balfour Declaration, which stated that the government viewed favourably "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people" but "that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".<span style='font-size: 11pt'>[/size] The Declaration was issued as a result of the belief of key members of the government, including Prime Minister Lloyd George, that Jewish support was essential to winning the war; however, the declaration caused great disquiet in the Arab world.[13] After the war, the area came under British rule as the British Mandate of Palestine. The area mandated to the British included what is today Israel, Jordan, the West Bank and Gaza.

Arab League

It was at this point in time that Jewish immigration to Palestine increased. By 1931, 17 percent of the population of Palestine were Jews, an increase of six percent since 1922.[14] Jewish immigration increased soon after the Nazis came to power in Germany, causing the Jewish population in Palestine to double.[15] Palestinian Arabs saw this rapid influx of Jewish immigrants as a threat to their homeland and their identity as a people. [size:11pt]Moreover, Jewish policies of purchasing land</span> and prohibiting the employment of Arabs in Jewish-owned industries and farms greatly angered the Palestinian Arab communities.[16] Demonstrations were held as early as 1920, protesting what the Arabs felt were unfair preferences for the Jewish immigrants set forth by the British mandate that governed Palestine at the time. <span style='font-size: 11pt'>This resentment led to outbreaks of violence. In March 1920, a first violent incident occurred in Tel Hai, and later that year riots broke out in Jerusalem.</span> Winston Churchill's 1922 White Paper tried to reassure the Arab population, denying that the creation of a Jewish state was the intention of the Balfour Declaration. In 1929, after a demonstration by Vladimir Jabotinsky's political group Betar at the Western Wall, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>riots started in Jerusalem and expanded throughout Palestine; Arabs murdered 67 Jews in the city of Hebron, in what became known as the Hebron Massacre.</span>

During the week of riots, at least 116 Arabs and 133 Jews[17] were killed and 339 wounded.[18]

In the 1930s Izz ad-Din al-Qassam organized and established the Black Hand, an anti-Zionist and anti-British militant organisation. He recruited and arranged military training for peasants and by 1935 he had enlisted between 200 and 800 men. <span style='font-size: 11pt'>The cells were equipped with bombs and firearms, which they used to kill Zionist settlers in the area, as well as engaging in a campaign of vandalism of Jewish settler plantations.</span>[19] By 1936, escalating tensions led to the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine.[20]

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>In response to Arab pressure,[21] the British Mandate authorities greatly reduced the number of Jewish immigrants to Palestine (see White Paper of 1939 and the Exodus ship). These restrictions remained in place until the end of the mandate, a period which coincided with the Nazi Holocaust <span style="color: #3366FF">This led to the death of many Jews who could not flee Europe, so the Arabs could be appeased.</span></span> and the flight of Jewish refugees from Europe. As a consequence, most Jewish entrants to Palestine were illegal (see Aliyah Bet), causing further tensions in the region. Following several failed attempts to solve the problem diplomatically, the British asked the newly formed United Nations for help. On 15 May 1947 the UN appointed a committee, the UNSCOP, composed of representatives from eleven states. To make the committee more neutral, none of the Great Powers were represented.[22] <span style='font-size: 11pt'>After five weeks of in-country study, the commission recommended creating a partitioned state with separate territories for the Jews and the Arabs in Palestine . This "two state solution" was accepted with resolution 181 by the UN General Assembly in November 1947 by 33 votes to 13 with 10 abstentions. The Arab states, which constituted the Arab League, voted against.</span> On the ground, Arab and Jewish Palestinians were fighting openly to control strategic positions in the region. Several major atrocities were committed by both sides.[23]

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>In the months prior to the end of the Mandate the Haganah launched a number of offensives in which they gained control over all the territory allocated by the UN to the Jewish State, creating a large number of refugees and capturing the towns of Tiberias, Haifa, Safad, Beisan and, in effect, Jaffa.</span>

On May 14, 1948, one day before the end of the British Mandate of Palestine, Israel declared its independence and sovereignty on the portion partitioned by UNSCOP for the Jewish state. <span style='font-size: 11pt'>The next day, the Arab League reiterated officially their opposition to the "two-state solution" in a letter to the UN.[24] That day, the armies of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq invaded the territory partitioned for the Arab state, thus starting the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The nascent Israeli Defense Force repulsed the Arab nations from part of the occupied territories, thus extending its borders beyond the original UNSCOP partition.[25] By December 1948, Israel controlled most of the portion of Mandate Palestine west of the Jordan River. <span style="color: #3366FF">Roll that ... Arabs invaded both states of the 2 state solution, there was no invasion by Israel or by Jews.</span></span> The remainder of the Mandate consisted of Jordan, the area that came to be called the West Bank (controlled by Jordan), and the Gaza Strip (controlled by Egypt). <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Prior to and during this conflict, 711,000[26] Palestinian Arabs fled their original lands to become Palestinian refugees, in part, due to an alleged promise from Arab leaders that they would be able to return when the war had been won.</span> Many Palestinians fled from the areas that are now present-day Israel as a response to alleged massacres of Arab towns by militant and terrorist[citation needed] Jewish organizations like the Irgun and the Stern Gang (See Deir Yassin massacre). Many historians speculate that these massacres took place with the intention of causing psychological distress amongst the Arab population, giving them ample reason and fear to flee their homes and surrounding areas.[citation needed] <span style='font-size: 11pt'>The War came to an end with the signing of the 1949 Armistice Agreements between Israel and each of its Arab neighbours. This 1949 armistice line, the so-called green line, is to this day the internationally recognized border of the state of Israel. It is often referred to as the "pre-1967" border.</span>

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FACTS! They are such stubborn things.

LWW

LWW
02-01-2011, 09:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1949–1967

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Before the adoption by the United Nations of Resolution 181 in November 1947 and the declaration of the State of Israel in May 1948, several Arab countries adopted discriminatory measures against their local Jewish populations. The status of Jewish citizens in Arab states worsened dramatically following the 1948 Israeli-Arab conflict. Jews were uprooted from their longtime residency or became political hostages of the Arab–Israeli conflict.</span>

As a result, a large number of Jews were forced to emigrate from Arab lands, although some emigrated for ideological reasons.[27] Over 700,000 Jews emigrated to Israel between 1948 and 1952, with approximately 285,000 of them from Arab countries.[28][27] <span style="color: #3366FF">Note: Arabs forced Jews from land they owned into Israel.</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>After the 1967 war, more than 850,000 Jews had left their birthplaces and their homes in some 10 Arab countries. To-day, fewer than 7,000 Jews remain in these same countries. Individual and communal properties were confiscated without compensation.[29] [30][31] Riots in Yemen and Syria killed hundreds of Jews. In Libya, Jews were deprived of citizenship, and in Iraq, their property was seized.[32] Today, these displaced Jews and their descendants represent 41% of the total population of Israel.</span> For details, see Jewish exodus from Arab lands. [33]<span style='font-size: 14pt'> As a result of Israel's victory in its 1948 war of independence, any Arabs caught on the wrong side of the cease-fire line were unable to return to their homes in what became Israel. Likewise, any Jews on the West Bank or in Gaza were exiled from their property and homes to Israel. The main difference between the two is that Arabs were allowed to stay in Israel and gain citizenship post-1948, while Jews were completely removed from Arab-held areas after 1948. Today's Palestinian refugees are the descendants of those who left</span>, the responsibility for their exodus being a matter of dispute between the Israeli and the Palestinian side (see Causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus).[34][35]

In 1956, Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping, and blockaded the Gulf of Aqaba, in contravention of the Constantinople Convention of 1888. Many argued that this was also a violation of the 1949 Armistice Agreements.[36][37] On July 26, 1956, Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal Company, and closed the canal to Israeli shipping.[38]

Israel responded on October 29, 1956, by invading the Sinai Peninsula with British and French support. During the Suez Canal Crisis, Israel captured the Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula. The United States and the United Nations soon pressured it into a ceasefire.[38][39] Israel agreed to withdraw from Egyptian territory. Egypt agreed to freedom of navigation in the region and the demilitarization of the Sinai. The United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) was created and deployed to oversee the demilitarization.[40] The UNEF was only deployed on the Egyptian side of the border, as Israel refused to allow them on its territory.[41]

On May 19, 1967, Egypt expelled UNEF observers,[42] and deployed 100,000 soldiers in the Sinai Peninsula.[43] It again closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping,[44][45] returning the region to the way it was in 1956 when Israel was blockaded.

On May 30, 1967, Jordan signed a mutual defense pact with Egypt. Egypt mobilized Sinai units, crossing UN lines (after having expelled the UN border monitors) and mobilized and massed on Israel's southern border. On June 5, Israel launched an attack on Egypt. The Israeli Air Force (IAF) destroyed most of the Egyptian Air Force in a surprise attack, then turned east to destroy the Jordanian, Syrian and Iraqi air forces.[citation needed] This strike was the crucial element in Israel's victory in the Six-Day War.[43][45] At the war's end, Israel had gained control of the Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, eastern Jerusalem, Shebaa farms, and the Golan Heights. The results of the war affect the geopolitics of the region to this day. </div></div>

FACTS! They are such stubborn things.

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-01-2011, 07:32 PM
Must read between the lines and add additional facts to know what the inconvenient truths really are.

Try this out for size. All the top military leaders and civilian leaders of Israel as of the '67 war have written in their memoirs the admission that Israel was neither attacked nor threatened by the Egyptian armor in the Sinai, since many more divisions were required to have a prayer of success. Various high officials like Mosche Dayan, Menachim Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, Yitzhak Rabin, etc., all stated that Egypt was not going to attack (in Israel's opinion, because of the above statement), but that THEY were going to attack, for the aggressive purpose of adding neighboring lands which they coveted.

There wasn't just a sneak attack on Egyptian air forces-- at the same time, ALL Arab air field were also reached (requiring launching at different times for the different distances to be flown). That was so the Egyptian attacks wouldn't alert the other Arab countries to get their air forces off the ground instead of being sitting ducks.

The Israelis told many different stories about this. First, they claimed they'd been attacked first. Many still believe this coverup story, not having heard how it was reversed over time by Israel itself. Then the story was that they had pre-empted an attack just about to be done against them. This is also false, according to the top leadership themselves (years later, of course).

There is a principle in international law, promulgated mainly by the US's influence, at the Nuremberg trials, that aggressive war is the ultimate war crime, and that territorial gains thereby are illegitimate and cannot be kept by such an aggressor (cf: Kuwait c. 1990).

And indeed, even the US agreed with the binding UN Security Council Resolution 242, which to this very day is the cornerstone of our ME policy with regard to the Israeli/Palestinian situation, that insisted Israel must withdraw back away from and wholly out of all lands it expropriated in that war. Roughly another 65 binding UN SC resolutions reiterate that call for withdrawal to the pre-'67 war boundaries.

LWW
02-02-2011, 03:54 AM
Got anything to back up these claims?

I crack myself up.

So, it was actually Israeli forces disguised as Egytptians which forced UN forces out of the way and then massed on the border ... after years of promising to do exactly that?

Yer funnee.

LWW

LWW
02-02-2011, 04:05 AM
1967: Egypt expels UN observers. (http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/past/unef1backgr2.html)
1967: Egypt masses 100,000 troops in the Sinai and taunts Israel to do something about it. (http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/History/Modern+History/Centenary+of+Zionism/The+Arab-Israeli+Wars.htm)

1967: Egypt closes sea passage to Israeli shipping. (http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_periods3.html/The_TimesThe_Times)

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-02-2011, 01:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got anything to back up these claims?

I crack myself up.

So, it was actually Israeli forces disguised as Egytptians which forced UN forces out of the way and then massed on the border ... after years of promising to do exactly that?

Yer funnee.

LWW </div></div>

A report from Jews for Justice (http://www.washington-report.org/jews_for_justice/1967war.html)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Did the Egyptians actually start the 1967 war, as Israel originally claimed?

"The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was 'no threat of destruction' but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could 'exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.'...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: 'In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.' "Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."
Was the 1967 war defenisve? - continued

"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it." Yitzhak Rabin, Israel's Chief of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68

Moshe Dayan posthumously speaks out on the Golan Heights

"Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.

And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'" The New York Times, May 11, 1997</div></div>

It's even more one-sided than the above reveals. Because the whole blockade of the Israeli resort city port was itself also the product of Israel's taunting Nasser. Nasser held himself out as a pan-Arabian leader of all Arabs, and Israel humiliated him into that military action. After he'd blockaded the port, it was the Israelis who insisted all the UN peacekeepers be withdrawn everywhere, further escalating the tensions Nasser had begun as a face-saving measure.

But as the above citations show, the Israeli civilian and military high command knew he didn't intend any attack, but rather used the situation cynically for territorial aggrandizement, to further the prime stated Zionist goal of Heretz Israel ('greater' Israel), comparable to the land grabbing of the Germans by re-taking irredentist control of neighboring states with German populations for more 'living room' (lebensraum).

LWW
02-02-2011, 03:25 PM
Then why did they give it back?

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-03-2011, 03:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Then why did they give it back?

LWW </div></div>

Which part?

LWW
02-04-2011, 05:38 AM
All of it.

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-04-2011, 11:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All of it.

LWW </div></div>

They gave back the Sinai under the extreme pressuring of Carter to get the Camp David Accord agreement. This accomplished the peace with Egypt that has held to this day, got Israel a couple billion dollars a year from us for the last 30 years, and by taking Egypt out from any Arab calculation for war, made a general Arabic war against Israel impossible. (Egypt had the biggest armed forces among all of them).

To this day, they have held onto what they call 'Judea and Samaria,' which is the West Bank area (the old Trans-Jordan) and the half of Jerusalem over the old green line, and the Golan Heights. The Golan is less central to historic revanchism than the rest, but has an agricultural value.

Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza c. 2005, some 38 years after the '67 war, for its own reasons. They had never much populated the Gaza, having only 7,500 settlers there (compared to 400,000 they have housed in the West Bank), amid a sea of over 1 million Palestinians in Gaza. Ariel Sharon pushed for this against his Likud party, eventually founding the Kadima party to keep a government in place without Likud, for entirely pragmatic reasons. It cost too much for too little people involved, and the occupation there was particularly toxic.

LWW
02-04-2011, 11:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To this day, they have held onto what they call 'Judea and Samaria,' which is the West Bank area (the old Trans-Jordan) and the half of Jerusalem over the old green line, and the Golan Heights.</div></div>

Why did they give back the Sinai and not the Golan Heights and the West Bank?

You can figure this out ... if that's what you want to do.

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-04-2011, 07:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To this day, they have held onto what they call 'Judea and Samaria,' which is the West Bank area (the old Trans-Jordan) and the half of Jerusalem over the old green line, and the Golan Heights.</div></div>

Why did they give back the Sinai and not the Golan Heights and the West Bank?

You can figure this out ... if that's what you want to do.

LWW </div></div>

I gave my theory. What's yours?

LWW
02-05-2011, 04:38 AM
A theory is something that makes verifiable and repeatable predictions.

You presented a hypothesis, I have the real reason.

The Golan is roughly at an altitude of 3,000 feet. As part of the treaty ending the 1948 war, Syria agreed to demilitarize the Golan. The Golan was a premier location from which Syria could use artillery against neighboring Israel.

In the 1967 war, Syria used the Golan to shell Israel ... in direct violation of the DMZ established by the armistice.

Israel seized and held the Golan afterwards being that Syria had proven itself to be untrustworthy.

In 1973 Syria invaded the Golan, seeking to regain the upper hand for their artillery. They were beaten back.

Since then, the Israelis have offered to return the Golan in exchange for a peace treaty with Syria. Syria has always refused.

The West Bank of the Jordan was seized after repeated use as a staging area from which the Arab armies would invade Israel and attempt to cut it in half. Prior to taking the west bank, Israel was less than 10 miles wide at it's narrowest.

Bottom line ... Israel holds both the Golan and west bank because of repeated treachery and wars of aggression by the Arab nations in the region.

If the Arabs wanted peace, there would be peace.

No amount of apologies on their behalf will change that.

LWW

Qtec
02-05-2011, 04:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the Arabs wanted peace, there would be peace. </div></div>

How did you work that one out?

Q

LWW
02-05-2011, 05:01 AM
I rejected the spoon and observed reality.

LWW

Qtec
02-05-2011, 05:28 AM
New thread.

LWW
02-05-2011, 06:17 AM
This one is doing fine ... until you attempted to shift gears.

Please, pay attention.

LWW

JohnnyD
02-05-2011, 08:03 AM
Once again the truth will set them free.

LAMas
02-05-2011, 09:35 AM
If Islam wins out (eliminates) over the Jews and the USA, will we be able to do 72+ virgins? Will these be the same recycled virgins since Mohammed?

JohnnyD...will they be free?

Piece...come y'all.

Soflasnapper
02-05-2011, 11:44 AM
In the 1967 war, Syria used the Golan to shell Israel ... in direct violation of the DMZ established by the armistice.

Israel seized and held the Golan afterwards being that Syria had proven itself to be untrustworthy.

That's not how Mosche Dayan characterized it (see my quote from him above again). What would he know about it? He was the commander who took the Golan at the time. He said what shelling there was had been created by Israeli provocations, and that at the time they seized the Golan, Syria was not threatening or attacking Israel.

The West Bank of the Jordan was seized after repeated use as a staging area from which the Arab armies would invade Israel and attempt to cut it in half. Prior to taking the west bank, Israel was less than 10 miles wide at it's narrowest.

Not in the '67 war. Jordan didn't even enter the war until attacked, in a sneak attack on its air forces without provocation.

If the Arabs wanted peace, there would be peace.

The entire Arab League has offered a universal peace for Israel with all Arab nations, subject to their return to the pre-'67 borders, as the UN SC 242 has made clear is also the call from international law and world opinion.

Israel will not take 'yes' for an answer on this, because of the 10 mile width you mention.

Qtec
02-06-2011, 01:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the Arabs wanted peace, there would be peace.

The entire Arab League has offered a universal peace for Israel with all Arab nations, subject to their return to the pre-'67 borders, as the UN SC 242 has made clear is also the call from international law and world opinion.

Israel will not take 'yes' for an answer on this, because of the 10 mile width you mention. </div></div>

If you watch the docu, link, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTszskhUrd0&feature=player_embedded) its quite clear that the Israeli extremists are the ones standing in the way of peace. They want it all and Huckabee agrees with them. link (http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/31/huckabee-attends-ceremony-for-new-israeli-settlement/)

Q

LWW
02-06-2011, 05:05 AM
Do you believe that posting Theroux ... faux journalist for Michael Moore ... somehow gives him legitimacy?

You crack me up brother.

LWW

Qtec
02-06-2011, 05:09 AM
To comment on a docu that you haven't watched is the epitome of stupidity.

Q

LWW
02-06-2011, 05:24 AM
I've watched it ... and much of his other work plus a;ll of Moorecheeseburgers. When viewed as a parody of journalism they become entertaining humor.

That being said ... anyone who does "AVON LADIES OF THE AMAZON" isn't a journalist, and this piece you are pimping is simply a typical Moore/Theroux drive by hit piece of faux journalism used to feed the raw meat of hate to anti semites.

Now ... why you seem so willing to accept this without question might be something you would want to ask yourself.

LWW

Qtec
02-06-2011, 05:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've watched it .. </div></div>

No comment?

Q

LWW
02-06-2011, 05:42 AM
Look straight up Snoopy ... they're circling above your head.

LWW

Qtec
02-06-2011, 09:18 PM
Exactly, no comment.

Q...........some slayer you are. More like BS artist.

Stretch
02-06-2011, 10:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Exactly, no comment.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>Q...........some slayer you are. More like BS artist. </div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

He gets 11 out of 10 on that one. St.

LWW
02-07-2011, 03:44 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've watched it .. </div></div>

No comment?

Q </div></div>
OK ... Itried to be nice.

It's gonzo journalism designed for the express purpose of being spoon fed to anti semites incapable of thinking on their own.

LWW

Qtec
02-07-2011, 05:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've watched it .. </div></div>

No comment?

Q </div></div>

OK ... I tried to be nice.

<span style="color: #990000">Oh Boy, here it comes, </span>

It's gonzo journalism designed for the express purpose of being spoon fed to anti semites incapable of thinking on their own.

LWW </div></div>

LOL

Not much of an argument.

Q

LWW
02-07-2011, 06:19 AM
You never have much of an argument, but confession is good for you.

LWW