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LWW
02-03-2011, 05:27 AM
<span style='font-size: 11pt'>- Allah is our objective.
- The Prophet is our leader.
- Qur'an is our law.
- Jihad is our way.
- Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope</span>

Motto of the Muslim Brotherhood

LWW

LWW
02-03-2011, 05:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated; to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet."
-Hassan al-Banna-
-Muslim Brotherhood founder- </div></div>

LWW

Qtec
02-03-2011, 05:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Prophet is our leader. </div></div>

Jesus?

Not quite sure what your point is.

Q

LWW
02-03-2011, 06:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Prophet is our leader. </div></div>

Jesus?

Not quite sure what your point is.

Q </div></div>

It was the MB's point ... not mine.

Somehow, I doubt they meant Issa.

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-03-2011, 01:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>- Allah is our objective.
- The Prophet is our leader.
- Qur'an is our law.
- Jihad is our way.
- Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope</span>

Motto of the Muslim Brotherhood

LWW </div></div>

And yet, the Nixon Foundation (something named like that, taking RMN's interests in RealPolitick forward) recently published in the Council of Foreign Relations (the CFR, the premier establishment foreign policy org) prestigious journal 'Foreign Policy,' a piece entitled, 'The Moderate Muslim Brotherhood.'

The piece argues that the MB is (now?) moderate, committed to peaceful political activities, and should be engaged by the West for the moderation they bring to the table.

40 years old foundational documents to the contrary notwithstanding.

LWW
02-04-2011, 05:37 AM
So do you assume them to be moderately insane? Moderately murderous? Moderately terroristic? Moderately anti-semitic? Please explain this moderation of which you seem to believe?

This is from the reich wing nut conservative group PBS:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Muslim Brotherhood is a secretive, international movement dedicated to the spread of a fundamental version of Islam throughout the world - but is it also offering support and encouragement to terrorists?

Award winning Newsweek journalists Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff investigate <span style='font-size: 11pt'>a movement that preaches peaceful co-existence but also supports suicide bombings in Israel and offers inspiration for many violent jihadi groups.</span>

Hosenball and Isikoff travel to Germany – on the trail of Mamoun Darkazanli, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>a Brotherhood sympathizer who's been linked to two major terrorist attacks against the West, and to Osama bin Laden himself.</span> But he's still living freely in Hamburg.

They follow the terrorist money trail, meeting Youssef Nada, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>one of the Muslim Brotherhood’s most intriguing personalities. Nada once traveled the world meeting foreign leaders for the Brotherhood. Now he’s been condemned by President Bush as a terrorist financier. His businesses have been shut down, his assets frozen and UN sanctions prevent him from even leaving his country.</span>

Back home in the United States, Hosenball and Isikoff uncover the secret life of <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Abdulrahman Alamoudi, an influential Brotherhood supporter described as an ‘expert in the art of deception’ by an FBI insider. Appearing as a radical to his supporters but a moderate to everyone else, Alamoudi succeeded in reaching the highest levels of the US Government: currying favors from US Presidents while attending meetings with terrorist leaders and getting involved in a political assassination plot.</span>

In the end the question becomes – should the United States engage or shun the Muslim Brotherhood? </div></div>
OH DEAR! (http://www.pbs.org/weta/crossroads/about/show_the_brotherhood.html)

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-04-2011, 01:29 PM
I'm not endorsing the view, I'm citing it as being out there, at the highest policy levels.

The Nixon Center didn't create their 'Foreign Policy' article last week. It was published in 2007 (see link).

The Moderate Muslim Brotherhood, The Nixon Center (http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/62453/robert-s-leiken-and-steven-brooke/the-moderate-muslim-brotherhood)

JohnnyD
02-04-2011, 01:41 PM
Ohh my!

cushioncrawler
02-04-2011, 03:36 PM
The MB hav an additional (secret) protocol allso.
This protocol spells out the aim of infiltrating world boxing, so that one day a muslim will be world champ. First boxing, and then baseball basketball and gridiron.
Only then will islam be able to launch its rightfull claim to supremacy in the world of ice-hockey.
mac.

Soflasnapper
02-04-2011, 06:34 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The MB hav an additional (secret) protocol allso.
This protocol spells out the aim of infiltrating world boxing, so that one day a muslim will be world champ. First boxing, and then baseball basketball and gridiron.
Only then will islam be able to launch its rightfull claim to supremacy in the world of ice-hockey.
mac. </div></div>

You made me cough coffee out of my nose with that one!

It hurt, but thanks for that laugh!

Soflasnapper
02-04-2011, 06:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>- Allah is our objective.
- The Prophet is our leader.
- Qur'an is our law.
- Jihad is our way.
- Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope</span>

Motto of the Muslim Brotherhood

LWW </div></div>

By deception, we will do war.

Motto of the Mossad

Stretch
02-05-2011, 03:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The MB hav an additional (secret) protocol allso.
This protocol spells out the aim of infiltrating world boxing, so that one day a muslim will be world champ. First boxing, and then baseball basketball and gridiron.
Only then will islam be able to launch its rightfull claim to supremacy in the world of ice-hockey.
mac. </div></div>

NEVER! St.

LWW
02-05-2011, 04:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>- Allah is our objective.
- The Prophet is our leader.
- Qur'an is our law.
- Jihad is our way.
- Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope</span>

Motto of the Muslim Brotherhood

LWW </div></div>

By deception, we will do war.

Motto of the Mossad </div></div>

Actually it's "Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety."

What you are attempting to quote, and changing the meaning entirely, is the original motto: "For by wise guidance you can wage your war"

LWW