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Sev
02-03-2011, 01:49 PM
The Administrations worst nightmare is being realized. The Virginia attorney general is filing papers to bypass the appellate courts and go directly to the Supreme Court.

Yeah baby!!
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http://www.examiner.com/republican-i...tus-fast-track

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Cuccinelli seeks expedited review of Virginia health care lawsuit in the Supreme Court</span>

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli announced today that Virginia will file a petition to ask the United States Supreme Court to take Virginia’s health care lawsuit now, as opposed to waiting for the case to first be decided by the court of appeals. The Petition for Certiorari Before Judgment in the United States Supreme Court in the case of Commonwealth v. Sebelius will be filed pursuant to Rule 11 of the Rules of the United States Supreme Court.
“Given the uncertainty caused by the divergent rulings of the various district courts on the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, we feel that it is necessary to seek resolution of this issue as quickly as possible,” said Cuccinelli. “Currently, state governments and private businesses are being forced to expend enormous amounts of resources to prepare to implement a law that, in the end, may be declared unconstitutional. Regardless of whether you believe the law is constitutional or not, we should all agree that a prompt resolution of this issue is in everyone’s best interest.”
Normally, appeals of decisions of United States district courts are first heard in the federal courts of appeals. But Rule 11 provides that an immediate review in the U.S. Supreme Court is permissible “upon a showing that the case is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination in” the Supreme Court.
Cuccinelli noted, “Rule 11 is the exception to the general rule, but this case and the other cases challenging the constitutionality of PPACA are truly exceptional in their own right. There are a number of suits pending throughout the country challenging the constitutionality of PPACA. Presently, 28 states have filed suits challenging the authority of Congress to enact this law. That, in and of itself, is exceptional and makes the cases excellent candidates for immediate review in the Supreme Court.
“We did not make this decision lightly. Given his unique responsibilities to fund and implement PPACA as Governor of Virginia, Governor McDonnell is particularly concerned about the possibility of wasting precious and strained taxpayer dollars preparing for a law that may well be struck down. Recognizing the tremendous amount of time and resources that are and will be expended to implement a law that two federal judges have ruled contains unconstitutional provisions, Lieutenant Governor Bolling and Speaker Howell have joined the governor in requesting that my office seek expedited review. Additionally, I have been encouraged to attempt to expedite this case by Democrats as well as Republicans in Virginia's General Assembly, and of course, the bipartisan passage of Virginia's Health Care Freedom Act last year was the very first step in this entire process here in the commonwealth.
“Despite the fact that the Department of Justice has not agreed to join in a Rule 11 motion, in a filing with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit to set an expedited schedule for its appeal of Virginia's district court victory, the Justice Department stated, ‘The constitutionality of [PPACA] has public policy implications of the highest magnitude.’ In other words, according to the Justice Department itself, a case cannot have public policy implications that are more important than this case. We agree and feel that reinforces the fitting nature of our request for immediate review in the Supreme Court,” Cuccinelli said.
The Petition for Certiorari and Appendix are currently being assembled by the legal printer for the attorney general and will be filed with the court as soon as is practicable.


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Soflasnapper
02-03-2011, 02:54 PM
If you mean they'd rather have the various appellate courts reverse these rulings before the SCOTUS hears them, you're right.

Because the appellate courts would be forced to reverse them, under SCOTUS precedents. That might make it harder for the SCOTUS to reimpose the rulings by overturning the appellate courts' reasoning.

Sev
02-03-2011, 02:59 PM
Thats a good point.

However this is my thinking.
If the the SCOTUS accepts early the chances of the clock being run out till 2012 are non existent.
Also if I recall correctly Kagen may have to recuse herself. 4-4 decision is a win in that case.

The current court has a pretty good track record of 5-4 rulings.

If Obamacare is found to not be constitutional, Obama looses his signature legislation and becomes a lame-duck.
The democrats find themselves on the wrong side of history. It would mean they wasted a year and half on a massive piece of legislation that did not pass the sniff test. Which had been pointed out repeatedly during the debate.
The argument that will be made is that the president and congress were so preoccupied with the healthcare bill they were distracted by what was transpiring in the economy.

The ramifications for the 23 democrat senators up for election in 2012 could dire.

Not a good scenario.

eg8r
02-03-2011, 02:59 PM
Now who is going to say the Reps are not trying to keep the costs of this overthrow at a minimum. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r

Qtec
02-03-2011, 09:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now who is going to say the Reps are not trying to keep the costs of this overthrow at a minimum. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r </div></div>

Didn't they just borrow another 700 Billion <u>to give</u> to the richest Americans?
Didn't they also do their damnedest <u>to avoid</u> giving first responders 7 Billion for medical treatment?

Q

JohnnyD
02-03-2011, 11:18 PM
The truth will set them free.

Qtec
02-03-2011, 11:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The truth will set them free. </div></div>

That doesn't make sense unless you qualify it.

What truth?

What does your statement have to do with GOP hypocrisy?

Q

Stretch
02-04-2011, 12:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The truth will set them free. </div></div>

That doesn't make sense unless you qualify it.

What truth?

What does your statement have to do with GOP hypocrisy?

Q </div></div>

Patience, LWW has not told little johnny what to think yet. St.

JohnnyD
02-04-2011, 01:49 AM
hondo knows the truth but he will not reveal it.The truth will set him free.Stretch believes his lies as he is a young man that is gullible.He will find the truth.The truth will set him free.
JD

JohnnyD
02-04-2011, 02:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The truth will set them free. </div></div>

That doesn't make sense unless you qualify it.

What truth?

What does your statement have to do with GOP hypocrisy?

Q </div></div>The truth about GOP hypocrisy.It is not quantum physics.In it's most simplistic form or in it's most complex form the truth is still the truth.You seek the truth.You will find the truth.The truth is always the truth.It can never be changed.Finding the truth will set one free.Using the Coppenhagen Interpretation in generic comparision is in the nature of the universe.You seek the truth long enough and ye shall find it pilgrim.
Jesus loves you.

JohnnyD
02-04-2011, 02:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The truth will set them free. </div></div>

That doesn't make sense unless you qualify it.

What truth?

What does your statement have to do with GOP hypocrisy?

Q </div></div>

Patience, LWW has not told little johnny what to think yet. St. </div></div>LWW is a thinker and a doer.He is the slayer of myths.As can be achieved discrete standing wave interactions explain Quanta Photon Particles".
You see LWW deals in the truth.The truth is not a fictional topic.As explained to Qtec the truth will always be the truth.The truth will set you free.
In advanced discussions about the truth some of these behaviors are macroscopic and only emerge when the physical quantities can be changed by none other than the truth.Since we know that the truth can never be changed we are dealing with a factual analysis that cannot be overturned.Thereby "The truth will set one free".
Thank you for being such a wonderful friend and partaking in this discussion.May you go in peace.Jesus loves you.
JohnnyD.

JohnnyD
02-04-2011, 02:28 AM
HEY everybody what time is it?&gt;&gt;&gt; It's fine scotch whiskey time.Jesus loves you all.

JohnnyD
02-04-2011, 02:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats a good point.

However this is my thinking.
If the the SCOTUS accepts early the chances of the clock being run out till 2012 are non existent.
Also if I recall correctly Kagen may have to recuse herself. 4-4 decision is a win in that case.

The current court has a pretty good track record of 5-4 rulings.

If Obamacare is found to not be constitutional, Obama looses his signature legislation and becomes a lame-duck.
The democrats find themselves on the wrong side of history. It would mean they wasted a year and half on a massive piece of legislation that did not pass the sniff test. Which had been pointed out repeatedly during the debate.
The argument that will be made is that the president and congress were so preoccupied with the healthcare bill they were distracted by what was transpiring in the economy.

The ramifications for the 23 democrat senators up for election in 2012 could dire.

Not a good scenario. </div></div>Absolutely excellent post young man.I toast a fine aged scotch whiskey in your honor.

LWW
02-04-2011, 06:05 AM
Excellent post.

LWW

LWW
02-04-2011, 06:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The truth will set them free. </div></div>

That doesn't make sense unless you qualify it.

What truth?

What does your statement have to do with GOP hypocrisy?

Q </div></div>


Patience, LWW has not told little johnny what to think yet. St. </div></div>

Are you calling him a boy?

LWW

LWW
02-04-2011, 06:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't they just borrow another 700 Billion <u>to give</u> to the richest Americans?

Q </div></div>

No.

LWW

LWW
02-04-2011, 06:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't they also do their damnedest <u>to avoid</u> giving first responders 7 Billion for medical treatment?

Q </div></div>

No.

LWW

LWW
02-04-2011, 06:10 AM
In both of the above questions, you formed your opinion based off of lies ... and lies that you never questioned.


Furthermore, they were lies that you still cling to desperately even though you have been shown the truth.

Hence, not only do you not seek truth ... you flee from and deny truth while loving the lie.

You should listen to JohnnyD.

LWW

Qtec
02-04-2011, 07:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't they also do their damnedest <u>to avoid</u> giving first responders 7 Billion for medical treatment?

Q </div></div>

No.

LWW </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 20pt'>9/11 responders bill defeated by Senate GOP filibuster</span>
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December 09, 2010|By the CNN Wire Staff

* Senate Democrats failed Thursday to win a procedural vote to open debate on a 9/11 emergency responders bill.
Senate Democrats failed Thursday to win a procedural vote to open debate on a 9/11 emergency responders bill.

<u>Senate Democrats failed Thursday to win a procedural vote to open debate on a bill that would provide medical benefits and compensation for emergency workers who were first on the scene of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.</u>

The motion for cloture, or to begin debate, needed 60 votes to pass <span style='font-size: 26pt'>due to a Republican filibuster</span>, but fell short at 57-42 in favor.

While supporters said they would try to bring the bill up again, either on its own or as part of other legislation to be considered, the vote Thursday jeopardized the measure's chances for approval in the final weeks of the current congressional session </div></div>


I guess this isn't proof enough for you.

Q

pooltchr
02-04-2011, 07:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I toast a fine aged scotch whiskey in your honor. </div></div>

Break out the Glenfiddich!

Steve

Stretch
02-04-2011, 08:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stretch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The truth will set them free. </div></div>

That doesn't make sense unless you qualify it.

What truth?

What does your statement have to do with GOP hypocrisy?

Q </div></div>


Patience, LWW has not told little johnny what to think yet. St. </div></div>

Are you calling him a boy?

LWW </div></div>

Show me where i said that....

What's that, you can't?

We knew that.

Please cut back on the hallucinogenics. St.

LWW
02-04-2011, 08:29 AM
No, but it was for you.

Thanks, but my point needed no confirmation.

LWW

LWW
02-04-2011, 08:32 AM
Your competence in English is astoundingly poor.

Did you notice this ---&gt; ?, as that denotes a question and not a claim.

Your statement was made in a manner that could be interpreted in more ways than one.

Your reaction leads me to believe your initial comment was a Freudian slip and my initial suspicion was accurate.

If you wish to actually answer the question with a cogent explanation, I'll listen.

LWW

eg8r
02-04-2011, 04:35 PM
Heck no, I guess you are still stupid on how taxes work.

eg8r