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Qtec
02-03-2011, 09:38 PM
Flashback.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Bush Calls Democracy Terror's Antidote</span>

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 9, 2005; Page A16

President Bush said yesterday a fledgling democratic movement that he sees spreading through the Middle East is essential to defeating terrorism, and warned Syria and Iran against thwarting <span style='font-size: 14pt'>the "momentum of freedom"</span> and fomenting instability in the region.

"The chances of democratic progress in the broader Middle East have seemed frozen in place for decades," Bush said at the National Defense University at Fort McNair. <u>"Yet, at last, clearly and suddenly, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>the thaw has begun.</span>" </u>

Following up on his inaugural pledge to "end tyranny around the world," Bush demanded that Syria immediately withdraw its troops from Lebanon, called on both Syria and Iran to stop terrorist activities in the region, <span style='font-size: 17pt'>and directly pressed for open presidential elections in Egypt.</span>


The president sent a stronger message to <u>Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who recently announced plans to open up elections in his country to other parties even though his government will control who participates.</u> Bush, putting Mubarak on the spot, delineated <u>what he would consider acceptable conditions for elections in Egypt:</u> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>"freedom of assembly, multiple candidates, free access by those candidates to the media and <u>the right to form political parties</u>." </span></div></div>

...........and now that the Egyptians are protesting in their millions for freedom, the RW response is?

'Muslim..blah blah ..Muslim Brotherhood...blah blah...Muslim...etc etc etc etc.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In February 2009 the US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, was handed a document by her own officials which had this to say about the routine crimes of the Mubarak regime: "Security forces used unwarranted lethal force and tortured and abused detainees, in most cases with impunity Security forces arbitrarily arrested and detained individuals, in some cases for political purposes, and kept them in prolonged pretrial detention. The executive branch placed limits on and pressured the judiciary. The government's respect for freedoms of press, association and religion declined during the year."

Mubarak is a brutal dictator who has run Egypt as a police state for 30 years with the blessing and support of western powers Britain included. Mubarak's tyranny is founded on an immense apparatus of repression. His phony democracy, sham elections and manipulated plebiscites would not fool a child. </div></div>

Then again, he is a good friend to Israel.

Q

Qtec
02-03-2011, 11:09 PM
Q link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmZtJTXv-6k&feature=player_embedded)

LWW
02-04-2011, 05:54 AM
So what is the hypocrisy?

LWW

Gayle in MD
02-04-2011, 09:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Flashback.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Bush Calls Democracy Terror's Antidote</span>

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 9, 2005; Page A16

President Bush said yesterday a fledgling democratic movement that he sees spreading through the Middle East is essential to defeating terrorism, and warned Syria and Iran against thwarting <span style='font-size: 14pt'>the "momentum of freedom"</span> and fomenting instability in the region.

"The chances of democratic progress in the broader Middle East have seemed frozen in place for decades," Bush said at the National Defense University at Fort McNair. <u>"Yet, at last, clearly and suddenly, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>the thaw has begun.</span>" </u>

Following up on his inaugural pledge to "end tyranny around the world," Bush demanded that Syria immediately withdraw its troops from Lebanon, called on both Syria and Iran to stop terrorist activities in the region, <span style='font-size: 17pt'>and directly pressed for open presidential elections in Egypt.</span>


The president sent a stronger message to <u>Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who recently announced plans to open up elections in his country to other parties even though his government will control who participates.</u> Bush, putting Mubarak on the spot, delineated <u>what he would consider acceptable conditions for elections in Egypt:</u> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>"freedom of assembly, multiple candidates, free access by those candidates to the media and <u>the right to form political parties</u>." </span></div></div>


<span style="color: #990000"> None of which happened, under Bush. </span>

...........and now that the Egyptians are protesting in their millions for freedom, the RW response is?

'Muslim..blah blah ..Muslim Brotherhood...blah blah...Muslim...etc etc etc etc.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In February 2009 the US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, was handed a document by her own officials which had this to say about the routine crimes of the Mubarak regime: "Security forces used unwarranted lethal force and tortured and abused detainees, in most cases with impunity Security forces arbitrarily arrested and detained individuals, in some cases for political purposes, and kept them in prolonged pretrial detention. The executive branch placed limits on and pressured the judiciary. The government's respect for freedoms of press, association and religion declined during the year."

Mubarak is a brutal dictator who has run Egypt as a police state for 30 years with the blessing and support of western powers Britain included. Mubarak's tyranny is founded on an immense apparatus of repression. His phony democracy, sham elections and manipulated plebiscites would not fool a child. </div></div>

Then again, he is a good friend to Israel.

Q </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Then again, he is a good friend to Israel.

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<span style="color: #990000"> Which is every bit as corrupt, oppressive and inhumane, as any other country in the M.E. </span>

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LWW
02-04-2011, 09:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="color: #990000"> Which is every bit as corrupt, oppressive and inhumane, as any other country in the M.E. </span>

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That explains why in Israel Christians/Muslims/Jews enjoy the same rights while in other mideast nations Christians/Jews are beheaded with impunity.

LWW

Qtec
02-05-2011, 04:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So what is the hypocrisy?

LWW </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hypocrisy is the state of <span style='font-size: 17pt'>pretending </span>to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. </div></div>

Like spreading Democracy?

If this was happening in Lybia, a dictatorship they don't like, the RW would be <span style='font-size: 14pt'>all for it.</span>
Now because its Egypt, a dictator they do like, they are <span style='font-size: 14pt'>all against it</span>..... and the RW fearmongering machine kicks in.

eg, <span style='font-size: 17pt'>They are for Democracy only when it suits them, ie they are hypocrites.</span>

Just watch this (http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/beck-wonders-about-his-egyptchinanew)

Simple answers.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glenn Beck seems to be a little nonplussed that everyone is pointing and laughing at his typically GlennBeckian apocalyptic conspiracist take on the events in Egypt.

On his Fox News show yesterday he basically doubled down:

<span style="color: #990000">They were reacting with surprise afterwards, you know, like what? I've never heard that. Because she's 100 percent wrong.

First of all, that's not the network's theory. That's not Fox's theory. That's my theory. My theory. And it's not Van Jones or anything else.

Let me ask you this, let's start here. Since when is having a theory when you're trying to figure out what's going on a bad thing in America?

And it's really less theory than it is facts in their own words. But, just in case, let me show you what my "theory" is. And I stand by it. Everybody on the left, this is my theory and I stand by every word of it.

Groups from the hardcore socialists and communist left and extreme Islam will work together because of the common enemy of Israel and the Jews.

It's not just capitalism, it's not the United States, it's your way of life in the West. And I stand by that.

Groups from the hardcore socialist left and communism and extreme Islam will work together to overturn relatively -- relative stability because in the status quo, they are both ostracized from power and the mainstream in most parts of the world.

That's -- here, I'll even put it up for you -- Glenn's theory. Here it is. Got it?

That's it and I stand by it. Is it so farfetched, really?</span>

Yes.

This has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions. </div></div>

Ok, that's the nutty RW, how about MSM Fox style?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hannity and Bozell bash media -- especially Chris Matthews -- <span style='font-size: 17pt'>for insufficient fearmongering over Egypt</span>

The right-wing Media Research Center's Brent Bozell was on Sean Hannity's Fox News show last night to talk about how horrible the American media have been in covering the situation in Egypt. How have they been horrible? Why, apparently because they aren't being sufficiently Becklike in fearmongering over an imminent radical Islamist takeover:

BOZELL: What happens when the government crumbles? What happens when this country is reduced to utter anarchy? What happens when the killings begin and the death begins? Are they still going to credit Barack Obama's soaring oratory for that, or are they going to separate them? What happens if an Islamic caliphate takes over? Are they going to credit his soaring oratory at that point? No they won't. </div></div>

watch it (http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/hannity-and-bozell-bash-media-especi)

Now they are actually blaming Obama for spreading Democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!




Q

LWW
02-05-2011, 05:01 AM
Do you honestly believe Obama is spreading democracy?

That's just precious.

And, FWIW, didn't you just spend eight years condemning <span style='font-size: 11pt'>B-B-B-BOOOOSH!!!!</span> for actually spreading democracy?

LWW

Sev
02-05-2011, 07:57 AM
Koo koooo! Koo Koooooo!!!

LWW
02-05-2011, 11:47 AM
And of Black Forest quality.

LWW