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LWW
02-05-2011, 01:36 PM
http://images3.cpcache.com/product/397914543v2_480x480_Front.jpg

LWW

Soflasnapper
02-05-2011, 02:03 PM
Only if the picture has two WORDS in it? LOL!

JohnnyD
02-05-2011, 02:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://images3.cpcache.com/product/397914543v2_480x480_Front.jpg

LWW </div></div>Excellent post.

Sev
02-05-2011, 05:14 PM
HHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!

LWW
02-05-2011, 05:46 PM
Nobody expected the left to get it.

LWW

Qtec
02-06-2011, 12:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only if the picture has two WORDS in it? LOL! </div></div>

You might like this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">STARK: Hi, Rush. I, um… I’m calling because… Well, first of all, I’m a liberal, and I seriously don’t understand this, uh, Reagan idolatry on behalf of conservatives. I’ll get… I’ll give you my reasons. Instead of privatizing Social Security, he raised taxes. We’re all paying higher taxes today out of our paychecks every single week because he decided to save Social Security. He –

RUSH: Wait, wait. Hold it. I need to go…

RUSH: Wait. Jeez.

STARK: The Greenspan Commission. He signed it into law, and it raised taxes on Social Security.

RUSH: What…? Wait, you’re talking about Reagan or Clinton?

STARK: I’m talking about Reagan. Reagan did that. He raised taxes on Social Security. He negotiated with terrorists, sending — over and over again — arms to Iran in exchange for hostages perform by contrast Jimmy Carter didn’t give an inch to the Iranians.

RUSH: What in the world…?

STARK: Not an inch. Instead Reagan (crosstalk)

RUSH: Testing the true depth of my politeness here on this call, folks.

STARK: Say that again?

RUSH: Let me ask you a question. What do you think, given all this that you believe, when you hear Obama and the Democrats cite Reagan as they have been doing since about a week before the State of the Union?

STARK: It’s funny you ask that. Because as a liberal I think Obama owes his presidency to Reagan. They’re both kinda stuffed suits that say one thing and then do another. Obama hasn’t been anywhere near liberal enough for me. He said he’d close Guantamano (sic), he hasn’t done that.

RUSH: Yeah.

STARK: He said he’d help people out with foreclosures, he hasn’t done that.

RUSH: I feel for you on that.

STARK: But Reagan, I mean, amnesty to people who are breaking the law and living in the country illegally. He said, “Forget about it. Stay here forever.” He cut and ran from Lebanon. How many hundreds of Marines were killed –

RUSH: Yeah.

STARK: — and he just decided, “Well, you know, instead of the fighting the bad guys I’m gonna run away”?

RUSH: Yeah.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>STARK: Why is Reagan a hero to conservatives?

RUSH: “Why is Reagan a hero to conservatives?” I don’t think you… Given what you’ve said, and I’m not trying to avoid the question, I don’t think you’d ever understand it.

STARK: <u>Well, he’s a tax raiser, an amnesty giver, a cut-and-runner, and he negotiated with terrorists. Why is he a hero to conservatives? I don’t think you understand it.</u></span> <span style="color: #990000"> LOL </span>

RUSH: No, I do. Most assuredly I do. I just don’t think that you would understand it. Where did you get this silly notion that Reagan raised taxes on Social Security? What websites do you read? Where did you pick that up?

STARK: Look up the Greenspan Commission. It’s not too hard to find. I mean, it’s a matter of history.

RUSH: Where did you get it? I mean, you’re asking me questions. I’m just reversing one on you here.

STARK: I’m sorry. It’s just general knowledge. It’s something I’ve known for a long time. I can’t remember where I got it from.

RUSH: You can’t remember? You’ve never heard of a website called Media Matters which highlighted it yesterday?

STARK: (static) Oh, no. I know Media Matters very well but that’s not where I got it.

RUSH: Oh, not where you got it. It’s an amazing coincidence.

STARK: (static) I mean, I’m a liberal. Of course I know Media Matters.

RUSH: Amazing coincidence out there.

STARK: They’re a fantastic website. But why are you dodging the question? I want to know why a tax-raising, amnesty-giving, cut-and-running, negotiating-with-terrorists guy is a hero to the conservative movement.

RUSH: Well, because you understand Reagan in a way that is flawed. You –

Your call is actually kinda interesting because you represent the impossibility of “bridging the gap.” Somebody like you just has to be defeated. There’s no crossing the aisle and finding common ground with you. You’re free to be who you are, don’t misunderstand. I’m not trying to insulting. I’m just saying, you are unreachable. You don’t want to be reached. T his picture of Reagan, you’ve just described somebody you should love, and you hate him! You just described somebody you should absolutely love, all these things. He’s an anti-conservative, as you say, but you don’t love him. You’re having trouble understanding why he’s viewed as heroic to a lot of people. </div></div>

link (http://www.starkreports.com/2011/02/04/rush-limbaugh-chats-wme-about-ronald-reagans-legacy/)

Q

JohnnyD
02-06-2011, 12:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nobody expected the left to get it.

LWW </div></div>Because they do not seek the truth.The truth will set them free.

LWW
02-06-2011, 04:49 AM
I almost posted that.

If I had done so, I would not have truncated it as Stark did.

I'm shocked he actually included where it was exposed that he was spoon fed his "THOUGHTS" by Media Matters ... much like you are.

But, it is incredibly dishonest ... as most leftists are when they speak of or quote Limbaugh ... to not include the man's answer in it's entirety.

Now, for Snoopy's edification, the part Mr Stark didn't put on the spoon:

The part that was spoon fed by Stark:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RUSH: Your call is actually kinda interesting because you represent the impossibility of "bridging the gap." Somebody like you just has to be defeated. There's no crossing the aisle and finding common ground with you. You're free to be who you are, don't misunderstand. I'm not trying to be insulting. I'm just saying, you are unreachable. You don't want to be reached. This picture of Reagan, you've just described somebody you should love, and you hate him! You just described somebody you should absolutely love, all these things. He's an anti-conservative, as you say, but you don't love him. You're having trouble understanding why he's viewed as heroic to a lot of people.</div></div>


The part he deleted:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RUSH: I could talk to you about anti-communism. I could. You want to talk about amnesty? Yeah, that was Simpson-Mazzoli, and that was one-and-a-half, two million illegals; and he was told, "Okay, if we're gonna do this, this is it, then. We're gonna secure the borders and that's it." It's the same thing with every tax increase he signed. It was also accompanied by promises to cut spending, and it never happened. Reagan's not perfect. Nobody is. But I think the proof of Reagan is the fact that when your guys get in trouble, who do they seek to associate themselves with? Remember, Obama and these people are all about getting votes.

The fact that he's trying to surround himself with Reagan, the fact that he's trying to position himself with Reagan is the best indication anybody could have of what this country really thinks of Ronaldus Magnus. I think if you want to focus in on hypocrisy, you've got far more of it on your side of the aisle to explain and dig through than we do. Reagan was forced to raise payroll taxes by a crisis in Social Security in 1983. He endorsed that rescue plan that was written by Alan Greenspan. It was reluctant. He was not a big supporter of that. Remember, Reagan did not have a congressional majority with him.

Everything he got, the tax cuts, he had Democrats outnumbering him in the House and Senate everywhere. There were certain realities that he faced. But the biggest tax increase on Social Security was authored by none other than Bill Clinton. But did you understand the notion? Ronald Reagan fought for America. He loved America. He feared where the left, based on history, wanted to take the country. Ronald Reagan set the stage for the end of the Cold War. Ronald Reagan defeated Soviet communism without firing a shot. I don't know... But none of that would matter. So you, sir, a nice individual, I'm sure you're a fine guy (probably not too much fun at a ball game, unlike Bill Clinton), but still, you illustrate that people like you just have to be defeated, not met halfway and gotten along with. I mean politically. </div></div>
OH DEAR! (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_020411/content/01125108.guest.html)

LWW

LWW
02-06-2011, 04:58 AM
They flee from truth JohnnyD.

LWW

Qtec
02-06-2011, 05:23 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I almost posted that.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>If I had done so, I would not have truncated it as Stark did.</span>

I'm shocked he actually included where it was exposed that he was spoon fed his "THOUGHTS" by Media Matters ... much like you are.

But, it is incredibly dishonest ... as most leftists are when they speak of or quote Limbaugh ... to not include the man's answer in it's entirety.

Now, for Snoopy's edification, the part Mr Stark didn't put on the spoon:

The part that was spoon fed by Stark:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RUSH: Your call is actually kinda interesting because you represent the impossibility of "bridging the gap." Somebody like you just has to be defeated. There's no crossing the aisle and finding common ground with you. You're free to be who you are, don't misunderstand. I'm not trying to be insulting. I'm just saying, you are unreachable. You don't want to be reached. This picture of Reagan, you've just described somebody you should love, and you hate him! You just described somebody you should absolutely love, all these things. He's an anti-conservative, as you say, but you don't love him. You're having trouble understanding why he's viewed as heroic to a lot of people.</div></div>


<span style='font-size: 20pt'>The part he deleted:</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RUSH: <span style="color: #3333FF">I could talk to you about anti-communism. I could. You want to talk about amnesty? Yeah, that was Simpson-Mazzoli, and that was one-and-a-half, two million illegals; and he was told, "Okay, if we're gonna do this, this is it, then. We're gonna secure the borders and that's it."</span> It's the same thing with every tax increase he signed. It was also accompanied by promises to cut spending, and it never happened. Reagan's not perfect. Nobody is. But I think the proof of Reagan is the fact that when your guys get in trouble, who do they seek to associate themselves with? Remember, Obama and these people are all about getting votes.

<span style="color: #990000">The fact that he's trying to surround himself with Reagan, the fact that he's trying to position himself with Reagan is the best indication anybody could have of what this country really thinks of Ronaldus Magnus. </span> I think if you want to focus in on hypocrisy, you've got far more of it on your side of the aisle to explain and dig through than we do. Reagan was forced to raise payroll taxes by a crisis in Social Security in 1983. He endorsed that rescue plan that was written by Alan Greenspan. It was reluctant. He was not a big supporter of that. Remember, Reagan did not have a congressional majority with him.

Everything he got, the tax cuts, he had Democrats outnumbering him in the House and Senate everywhere. There were certain realities that he faced. But the biggest tax increase on Social Security was authored by none other than Bill Clinton. But did you understand the notion? Ronald Reagan fought for America. He loved America. He feared where the left, based on history, wanted to take the country. Ronald Reagan set the stage for the end of the Cold War. Ronald Reagan defeated Soviet communism without firing a shot. I don't know... But none of that would matter. So you, sir, a nice individual, I'm sure you're a fine guy (probably not too much fun at a ball game, unlike Bill Clinton), but still, you illustrate that people like you just have to be defeated, not met halfway and gotten along with. I mean politically. </div></div>
OH DEAR! (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_020411/content/01125108.guest.html)

LWW </div></div>

You are a brainless idiot who doesn't even READ the links provided.

If you had read it, you might have noticed this.

It goes on to say,

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">STARK: They’re a fantastic website. But why are you dodging the question? I want to know why a tax-raising, amnesty-giving, cut-and-running, negotiating-with-terrorists guy is a hero to the conservative movement.

RUSH: Well, because you understand Reagan in a way that is flawed. You –

Your call is actually kinda interesting because you represent the impossibility of “bridging the gap.” Somebody like you just has to be defeated. There’s no crossing the aisle and finding common ground with you. You’re free to be who you are, don’t misunderstand. I’m not trying to insulting. I’m just saying, you are unreachable. You don’t want to be reached. T his picture of Reagan, you’ve just described somebody you should love, and you hate him! You just described somebody you should absolutely love, all these things. He’s an anti-conservative, as you say, but you don’t love him. You’re having trouble understanding why he’s viewed as heroic to a lot of people.

<span style="color: #3333FF">I could talk to you about anti-communism. I could. You want to talk about amnesty? Yeah, that was Simpson-Mazzoli, and that was one-and-a-half, two million illegals; and he was told, “Okay, if we’re gonna do this, this is it, then.</span> We’re gonna secure the borders and that’s it.” It’s the same thing with every tax increase he signed. It was also accompanied by promises to cut spending, and it never happened. Reagan’s not perfect. Nobody is. But I think the proof of Reagan is the fact that when your guys get in trouble, who do they seek to associate themselves with? Remember, Obama and these people are all about getting votes.

<span style="color: #CC0000">The fact that he’s trying to surround himself with Reagan, the fact that he’s trying to position himself with Reagan is the best indication anybody could have of what this country really thinks of Ronaldus Magnus.</span> I think if you want to focus in on hypocrisy, you’ve got far more of it on your side of the aisle to explain and dig through than we do. Reagan was forced to raise payroll taxes by a crisis in Social Security in 1983. He endorsed that rescue plan that was written by Alan Greenspan. It was reluctant. He was not a big supporter of that. Remember, Reagan did not have a congressional majority with him.

Everything he got, the tax cuts, he had Democrats outnumbering him in the House and Senate everywhere. There were certain realities that he faced. But the biggest tax increase on Social Security was authored by none other than Bill Clinton. But did you understand the notion? Ronald Reagan fought for America. He loved America. He feared where the left, based on history, wanted to take the country. Ronald Reagan set the stage for the end of the Cold War. Ronald Reagan defeated Soviet communism without firing a shot. I don’t know… But none of that would matter. So you, sir, a nice individual, I’m sure you’re a fine guy (probably not too much fun at a ball game, unlike Bill Clinton), but still, you illustrate that people like you just have to be defeated, not met halfway and gotten along with. I mean politically. </div></div>

Notice anything?

There is audio as well.


Q...............LWW looking very silly right now. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif

Soflasnapper
02-06-2011, 01:41 PM
Everything he got, the tax cuts, he had Democrats outnumbering him in the House and Senate everywhere. There were certain realities that he faced. But the biggest tax increase on Social Security was authored by none other than Bill Clinton

Rush was wrong here, several ways wrong.

Reagan had a GOP-majority Senate for his first 6 years. While it was true that the Dems held the House, Rush was right about that part, it wasn't true in the Senate when he got his tax cuts in the first year of his first term.

Under the Greenspan Commission, the RATE of SS payroll tax was raised almost 50% (4.2% to 6.2% = 47.6% raise), on all workers and all employers. Since the ceiling of wages subject to that tax was also raised enormously, graduated over many years, the maximum amount a worker or the employer could pay went up several hundred percent. (This is what the caller was referring to.)

What was Rush referring to? Under Clinton, the amount of SS benefits subject to income tax was raised to 85%. Problem for Rush: until Reagan, NO SS benefit money was subject to income tax. Reagan signed legislation that made **50%** of SS income subject to income tax. So even on that narrow issue, Reagan was the guy who first imposed any taxes, and HE made 50% subject to income taxes. Clinton's 35% more is a smaller hike in this category than the original 50%.