View Full Version : Rush Can't Defend Reagan, Uses Typical CCBesque

Gayle in MD
02-17-2011, 11:52 AM
Listen for yourself. This is hilarious!


STARK: Hi, Rush. I, umÖ Iím calling becauseÖ Well, first of all, Iím a liberal, and I seriously donít understand this, uh, Reagan idolatry on behalf of conservatives. Iíll getÖ Iíll give you my reasons. Instead of privatizing Social Security, he raised taxes. Weíre all paying higher taxes today out of our paychecks every single week because he decided to save Social Security. He Ė

RUSH: Wait, wait. Hold it. I need to goÖ

RUSH: Wait. Jeez.

STARK: The Greenspan Commission. He signed it into law, and it raised taxes on Social Security.

RUSH: WhatÖ? Wait, youíre talking about Reagan or Clinton?

STARK: Iím talking about Reagan. Reagan did that. He raised taxes on Social Security. He negotiated with terrorists, sending ó over and over again ó arms to Iran in exchange for hostages perform by contrast Jimmy Carter didnít give an inch to the Iranians.

RUSH: What in the worldÖ?

STARK: Not an inch. Instead Reagan (crosstalk)

RUSH: Testing the true depth of my politeness here on this call, folks.

STARK: Say that again?

RUSH: Let me ask you a question. What do you think, given all this that you believe, when you hear Obama and the Democrats cite Reagan as they have been doing since about a week before the State of the Union?

STARK: Itís funny you ask that. Because as a liberal I think Obama owes his presidency to Reagan. Theyíre both kinda stuffed suits that say one thing and then do another. Obama hasnít been anywhere near liberal enough for me. He said heíd close Guantamano (sic), he hasnít done that.

RUSH: Yeah.

STARK: He said heíd help people out with foreclosures, he hasnít done that.

RUSH: I feel for you on that.

STARK: But Reagan, I mean, amnesty to people who are breaking the law and living in the country illegally. He said, ďForget about it. Stay here forever.Ē He cut and ran from Lebanon. How many hundreds of Marines were killed Ė

RUSH: Yeah.

STARK: ó and he just decided, ďWell, you know, instead of the fighting the bad guys Iím gonna run awayĒ?

RUSH: Yeah.

STARK: Why is Reagan a hero to conservatives?

RUSH: ďWhy is Reagan a hero to conservatives?Ē I donít think youÖ Given what youíve said, and Iím not trying to avoid the question, I donít think youíd ever understand it.

<span style="color: #660000"> If that isn't the typical RW non response ....clearly trying to avoid the question, lol. </span>

STARK: Well, heís a tax raiser, an amnesty giver, a cut-and-runner, and he negotiated with terrorists. Why is he a hero to conservatives? I donít think you understand it.

RUSH: No, I do. Most assuredly I do. I just donít think that you would understand it.

<span style="color: #990000"> Now, doesn't that sound just like the righties on here? LOL, same kind of avoidance tactics. When he is dead wrong, grabbing at straws, can't defend, it's because no one can understand, LMAO! </span>

Where did you get this silly notion that Reagan raised taxes on Social Security? What websites do you read? Where did you pick that up?

<span style="color: #990000"> Like Palin, and Bachmann, Rush doesn't know his history. Someone will have to pass him a note, so he can discuss the subject, which he is clearly not aware of. </span>

STARK: Look up the Greenspan Commission. Itís not too hard to find. I mean, itís a matter of history. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

RUSH: Where did you get it? I mean, youíre asking me questions. Iím just reversing one on you here. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

<span style="color: #990000"> Yeah, right, covering up his ignorance of the subject. </span>

STARK: Iím sorry. Itís just general knowledge. Itís something Iíve known for a long time. I canít remember where I got it from.

RUSH: You canít remember? Youíve never heard of a website called Media Matters which highlighted it yesterday?

STARK: (static) Oh, no. I know Media Matters very well but thatís not where I got it.

RUSH: Oh, not where you got it. Itís an amazing coincidence.

<span style="color: #990000"> So What! Still Stalling. </span>

STARK: (static) I mean, Iím a liberal. Of course I know Media Matters.

RUSH: Amazing coincidence out there.

<span style="color: #990000"> Still avoiding the question, throwing out cracks.. </span>

STARK: Theyíre a fantastic website. But why are you dodging the question? I want to know why a tax-raising, amnesty-giving, cut-and-running, negotiating-with-terrorists guy is a hero to the conservative movement.

RUSH: Well, because you understand Reagan in a way that is flawed. You Ė

<span style="color: #990000"> LMAO! </span>

Your call is actually kinda interesting because you represent the impossibility of ďbridging the gap.Ē Somebody like you just has to be defeated. Thereís no crossing the aisle and finding common ground with you. Youíre free to be who you are, donít misunderstand. Iím not trying to insulting.

<span style="color: #990000"> BWA HA HA HA! </span>

Iím just saying, you are unreachable. You donít want to be reached. This picture of Reagan, youíve just described somebody you should love, and you hate him!

<span style="color: #660000"> LMAO! Now we know where the resident deniers get their avoicance speel! Same ol' Same ol', make a point, you're a hater. BWA HA HA HA! </span>

You just described somebody you should absolutely love, all these things. Heís an anti-conservative, as you say, but you donít love him. Youíre having trouble understanding why heís viewed as heroic to a lot of people.

<span style="color: #660000"> That's right chubby, change the subject, completely and do your switcheroo. </span>

I could talk to you about anti-communism.

<span style="color: #660000"> Oh yeah, now bring in the communists, nothing at all to do with they guy's questitons. </span>
I could. You want to talk about amnesty? Yeah, that was Simpson-Mazzoli,

<span style="color: #990000">Lie, misplaced blame, Reagan was fully behind Amnesty. </span>

and that was one-and-a-half, two million illegals; and he was told, ďOkay, if weíre gonna do this, this is it, then.

<span style="color: #990000">Another lie. They couldn't tell him what to do, and he held the VETO PEN. </span>

Weíre gonna secure the borders and thatís it.Ē Itís the same thing with every tax increase he signed. It was also accompanied by promises to cut spending, and it never happened.

<span style="color: #990000"> LMAO, but he kept signing those tax raises, at least six times???? </span>

Reaganís not perfect. Nobody is.

<span style="color: #660000"> Ha ha ha...imagine him saying that about any Democratic??? </span>

But I think the proof of Reagan is the fact that when your guys get in trouble, who do they seek to associate themselves with?

<span style="color: #660000"> My oh my, how does one associate with a dead man? </span>
Remember, Obama and these people are all about getting votes.

<span style="color: #990000"> Ah ha ha ha, but Republicans aren't about getting votes, ha ha ha. </span>

The fact that heís trying to surround himself with Reagan, the fact that heís trying to position himself with Reagan is the best indication anybody could have of what this country really thinks of Ronaldus Magnus.

<span style="color: #990000">Gee, Seems to me the only times I've heard this president mention Reagan, was once or twice, not much of a wrap, and then, when he spoke about him working with the opposition party. You'd think Obama was going on about REagan every day to listen to this BS.</span>

I think if you want to focus in on hypocrisy, youíve got far more of it on your side of the aisle to explain and dig through than we do.

<span style="color: #990000">Ha ha ha, the KING of hypocrite, throwing stones? </span>

Reagan was forced to raise payroll taxes by a crisis in Social Security in 1983.

<span style="color: #990000">LIE! And, I suppose President Obama isn't facing ANY crises so far? Nice try, Thrushmouth. </span>

He endorsed that rescue plan that was written by Alan Greenspan.
<span style="color: #990000"> That's right rush, another Republcican, and the crises, how about Reagan's big tax cuts???? </span>

It was reluctant. He was not a big supporter of that. Remember, Reagan did not have a congressional majority with him.

<span style="color: #660000"> Apparently, that doesn't count at all, for Obama, while you've been basing the hell out of him for weeks. </span>

Everything he got, the tax cuts, he had Democrats outnumbering him in the House and Senate everywhere. There were certain realities that he faced.

<span style="color: #990000"> Awe, poor widdle Ronnie, lol, like all president's don't have realities to face, how about facing Bush's Depression, and no money left to firght it with, while getting out of two F-ed up WARS???? </span>

But the biggest tax increase on Social Security was authored by none other than Bill Clinton.
<span style="color: #990000">Lie, it wasn't an increase on SS. </span>

But did you understand the notion? Ronald Reagan fought for America. He loved America.

<span style="color: #990000">Straw grabbing, still didn't answer the question. Is this an insinuation that other president's don't love America? Nice Try, Thrushmouth. </span>

He feared where the left, based on history, wanted to take the country.

<span style="color: #660000"> Oh yeah, here comes the fear, from that scary left, LMAO! </span>

Ronald Reagan set the stage for the end of the Cold War.

<span style="color: #990000">Lie. </span>

Ronald Reagan defeated Soviet communism without firing a shot.

<span style="color: #990000"> Lie. The soviet Union fell on their own, and to date, no one has defeated communism, it still exists in many countries, one of which Bush put the U.S. beholden to in deep debt. </span>

I donít knowÖ But none of that would matter.

<span style="color: #990000"> That's right, now answer the guy, how come the right puts him on a pedestal, after he cut and ran in Lebanon, sold arms to the Iranians, traded in negotiations with Terrorsits, opened the door to illegal Amnesty? Interfered in the public Market place, firing AT Controllers, Bailing out the SAvings and Loan? </span>

So you, sir, a nice individual, Iím sure youíre a fine guy (probably not too much fun at a ball game, unlike Bill Clinton),

<span style="color: #990000"> Ha ha ha, now if that isn't the typical CCB RW BS!!!! Let's drag Bill Clinton into it, Rush, since you can't defend Reagan, or your hypocrisy! </span>

but still, you illustrate that people like you just have to be defeated, not met halfway and gotten along with. I mean politically.

<span style="color: #990000"> Yes, yes, we know, defeat everybody, Rush, and defend the creators of the policies which are illegal, immoral, and totally failed, over and over again.

Still no answer! </span>

02-17-2011, 05:52 PM

And, only a moron swallows this without question and then reposts it after it's been demonstrated that the moron writing the article truncated the transcript to hide the fact he intellectually had his arse handed to him.

You never fail to amuse.


02-17-2011, 06:45 PM
The diminishment of her mental capacity has been escelating of late. I fear the swamp water is causing some serious damage.


02-17-2011, 06:49 PM
Perhaps a high colonic would help.

02-18-2011, 04:45 AM
Excellent post.

In her defense however, it was on the spoon.


02-18-2011, 04:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's been demonstrated </div></div>


Prove it.

What's that?


Thought so.


Gayle in MD
02-19-2011, 01:55 PM
Yes, then he follows up with a rash of illogical, untrue thread, to hide this one in which you call him on his bS.

Typical RW avoidance.

You and Sofla, expose his gross ignorance, and numerous misstatements, daily, yet all he can do is insult, and claim victory,..... hilarious, since he hasn't won a single debate since he came here.

The degree to which the right has been mislead by their party pundits, and their party operatives and representatives, is tru an unprecedented phenomenon in American History.



02-19-2011, 02:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, then he follows up with a rash of illogical, untrue thread, to hide this one in which you call him on his bS.

Typical RW avoidance.

You and Sofla, expose his gross ignorance, and numerous misstatements, daily, yet all he can do is insult, and claim victory,..... hilarious, since he hasn't won a single debate since he came here.

G. </div></div>

How do you know all of this, if, as you say, you never read his posts?
One must assume you are 1. just making stuff up, or 2. lying about ignoring him.
I wonder which it is...