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llotter
02-28-2011, 08:08 AM
Author Scot Cerullo

Liberals have long since learned that debating Conservatives can be a challenging endeavor, since Conservatives have a penchant for fortifying their arguments with facts, statistics, history and other elements that create convincing and thoughtful arguments.

Not to worry. The following are several tips Liberals can use right away to begin defeating Conservatives in every debate, every time.

Lib Tip # 1: Drop the Race Card: The moment your Conservative opponent begins crafting a cogent, air-tight argument buttressed in fact, drop the race card. This technique is designed to stifle further discussion, impugns your opponent and puts him on the defensive. Often, this is enough of a distraction to direct attention away from your lack of qualitative, quantitative evidence.

Lib Tip # 2: Impugn the Source: When debating a Conservative, content is less important than character. When your Conservative opponent states a compelling argument, do not address the argument and instead attack the Conservative personally. Since we are all sinners, it shouldn’t take long to find something wrong with your opponent. Use it.

Lib Tip # 3: Social Justice Trumps Logic: Argue every issue from a “Social Justice” or “Moral” high-ground. The Conservative will attempt to show that your ideas are unworkable, unsustainable or downright illogical. Don’t worry about any of that. Just stay on message by arguing from the moral, social justice perspective.

Lib Tip # 4: Exploit the Weakest Link: Define your opponent by his weakest link. If 10,000 Tea Partiers hold a rally, and one guy has a placard that is inappropriate, that is all you need to characterize the entire group as radical, racist militants. See how that works? It’s simple and fun and, most importantly, deflects all those awkward facts and articulate points away from the discussion and leaves the Conservative in a defensive mode.

Lib Tip # 5: Use “New Speak”: If health care is not a right according to the Constitution, and you want it to be a right, claim it is and then raise your voice. Raising your voice is always the best course of action in lieu of a good argument. Redefine words to suit your needs, and always be on guard for any stray, powerful fact or statistic the Conservative may use to support their position.

Lib Tip # 6: State the Opposite of what you believe: If you are in favor of taking money from producers and giving it to non-producers, that’s fine, but make sure your wording is a bit more obtuse than that. Try saying you are in favor of moral and social justice, and characterize everyone who earns a good living as somehow having won the lottery in life, and all those who want as being desperately hard-working folks who have an almost allergic reaction to hand-outs. Never imply or point out in any way that people can change their situation simply by making better decisions.

Lib Tip # 7: Define America by it’s Errors, not its Successes: Taking a cue from Lib Tip # 4, it is important to characterize America by it’s errors in judgement and misdeeds. It is critical that you completely overlook the good things America has done, and the manner in which it has beaten back one dictatorship after another. In fact, you must go to some lengths to divert people from the notion that without America, the world would be a far more dangerous, hostile, sad place. So talk about Indians and Slaves.

Lib Tip # 8: Blame talk radio and FOX news for fanning hate and racism: Avoid at all costs the fact that both talk radio and FOX news stand in defiant refutation of an otherwise fully agreeable media that presents only one template, a liberal template. Also, attempt to divert attention should someone ask why Conservative Talk Radio and FOX news is growing exponentially, while traditional, liberal media is closing offices, thinning their employees and running deficits like, you know, the government.

Lib Tip # 9: Government is Good: Insist that a massive expansion of government is a good thing. Assert that it is our patriotic duty to pay ever more in taxes so that a centralized government comprised of east and west coast Liberal elites can decide what is best for the unwashed masses, since it would be sheer lunacy to allow individuals the right to make decisions for themselves. If you run into problems, see Tips 1-8.

Lib Tip # 10: Assign Blame away from Yourself: Always assign blame to the other guy, preferably a Conservative. This may require rewriting history so that people may one day believe that Reagan did NOT usher in 25 years of prosperity, or it may require still more retooling of the content of public school text books. But over time we’ll get there.

Remember: The ends justify the means. No matter how cruel and violating the means may be, if it results in a mediocre society where all citizens ultimately suck off the the government for their most meager needs, it will all be worthwhile.

There is of course the small matter of where all the money for all these programs will come from. Right now, they come from spirited entrepreneurs, dreamers with drive and other people whose passion poses a direct threat to the new world we want to usher in.

But first things first. Learn the ten tips to squelch free speech, hurt your opponent with the intellectual equivelant of a kick to the groin and avoid facts, statistics and studies altogether, as those will get you in trouble.

Good luck Liberals! Battle on and remember what Dennis Prager said: The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. Oh wait, no. You don’t want to remember that. My bad. Here, try this: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Yeah, that’s the one. Whew!

Soflasnapper
02-28-2011, 08:34 AM
Haha, lloter!

It's actually the conservatives who feel at a loss debating liberals, as their many books try to directly bolster the right's inferiority complexes to try to handle their apparently smarter and more factually based liberal counterparts in arguments.

Why would they have that problem? Maybe because the population cohort with advanced degrees skews strongly toward the Democratic Party? Just a thought.

Gayle in MD
02-28-2011, 09:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Haha, lloter!

It's actually the conservatives who feel at a loss debating liberals, as their many books try to directly bolster the right's inferiority complexes to try to handle their apparently smarter and more factually based liberal counterparts in arguments.

Why would they have that problem? Maybe because the population cohort with advanced degrees skews strongly toward the Democratic Party? Just a thought.

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Pretty funny, after having just watched an entire election campaign, during which Repiglicans either flat out lied about their intentions, or ran from the press, and refused to answer any questions.

I lost track of how many "Interviews" I watched, where Repiglicans looked like deer in the headlights, when they were asked point blank, what cuts they intended, and how they intended to bring down the deficit!

Of course, som,e of us already knew what they would do, more for the rich, on the backs of the rest, and operations to further push the country in deeper into their fascism.

NONE of the Repiglican Leaders, answered the question, not one!

They idealize the likes of Palin, who operates her money grubbing perpetual non campaign, campaigning, through twitter, and FUX Noise. Both Angle, and Brewer, were filmed literally RUNNINg away from questions.

While all of the Wall Street, Health Insurance, and Energy Corporations are polluting our environment, dropping the ill, stealing through crooked insider trading, bundling and selling off their crooked deals, to others, using intentionally complex methods, in order to bilk the country out of wealth, are behind their conclaves of high tech, gated communities, just as the book, The Shock Doctrine, states is always the method of the Fascists, copunting their multi, multi Billions in stolen money, Repiglicans, who protected them from any repercusions, are working at the final take down, NO VOICE AT ALL, for the most vulnerable in our society.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."

This fascist plot began full force under Ronald Reagan, with the help of the Bush Oil Family, and the "Christian Coalition" Repiglican policies have brought America to her knees.


Even Madoff is saying the banks were all in on it, annd knew exactly what he was up to.

The stupid, are still blaming CRA, LMAO! What a total crock!

Links for all of my post, are available in the archives, but posting links on this site, is a waste of time...it will just be denied by the kind of people who believe that a man can live inside of a whale, think, Bush and Cheney weren't LIARS, and think that Corporations aren't making us all ill, while their cohorts, are dropping us from our medical insurance, once we do become ill.

Lemmings, who think that climate change, isn't related to man's contribution to warming the earth, LMAO! That the problem with our teachers, has nothing to do with losing the best ones, because they can't get by on their pay, as a ressult of Repiglican policies. Ths sort who wrote throughhout the Bush Administration's spend/borrow fascist fest, that the deficits didn't matter, until Bush collapsed our whole economy, by blowing the surplus, and launching two wars, while cutting taxes, and subsidizing the polluting pigs in our society.


G.

Sev
02-28-2011, 09:13 AM
Saw Stossel last night and he interview Star Parker.

She is a black woman that clawed her way out of the democrat dependancy programs.

She is an interesting woman.

http://townhall.com/columnists/starparker/

pooltchr
02-28-2011, 09:49 AM
Did you have anything of value to add, or did you just need another opportunity to go into attack mode?

You are without a doubt, the source of most of the negativity on this forum.

Making quite a name for yourself.

Steve

LWW
02-28-2011, 10:32 AM
Excellent post.

When I was a leftist as a ute ... that was pretty much what we were taught.

LWW

llotter
02-28-2011, 01:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Haha, lloter!

It's actually the conservatives who feel at a loss debating liberals, as their many books try to directly bolster the right's inferiority complexes to try to handle their apparently smarter and more factually based liberal counterparts in arguments.

Why would they have that problem? Maybe because the population cohort with advanced degrees skews strongly toward the Democratic Party? Just a thought.

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You are right. It is make me feel at a loss when debating liberals because of the points mentioned above. Facts and logic and common sense have no effect on the liberal mind and that leaves so little in common as to make discussion nearly impossible.

As to why academia is so full of Democrats? It is largely for the same reason that union members and blacks and a large group of other special interests, they all belong to the welfare class and dependent on government largess for their financial support. They all belong to the 'Me' generation and like children, want others to satisfy all their needs with no ability or desire to be concerned with their own progeny or the country.

pooltchr
02-28-2011, 02:53 PM
This whole thread is really pretty funny. The libs have a set of rules for debating conservatives......and from what I see around here....they still can't win a debate!!!!!!!

Steve

Sev
02-28-2011, 03:54 PM
OH the irony of it all!!!

LWW
02-28-2011, 06:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Haha, lloter!

It's actually the conservatives who feel at a loss debating liberals, as their many books try to directly bolster the right's inferiority complexes to try to handle their apparently smarter and more factually based liberal counterparts in arguments.

Why would they have that problem? Maybe because the population cohort with advanced degrees skews strongly toward the Democratic Party? Just a thought.

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You are right. It is make me feel at a loss when debating liberals because of the points mentioned above. Facts and logic and common sense have no effect on the liberal mind and that leaves so little in common as to make discussion nearly impossible.

As to why academia is so full of Democrats? It is largely for the same reason that union members and blacks and a large group of other special interests, they all belong to the welfare class and dependent on government largess for their financial support. They all belong to the 'Me' generation and like children, want others to satisfy all their needs with no ability or desire to be concerned with their own progeny or the country. </div></div>

You have decribed the main symptoms of RDD ... a common ailment of the left.

And, and I know this is petty, I hate it when the left are referred to as liberal.

They are anything BUT liberals.

The root word of liberal is liberty, and the left hates liberty and adores the state.

They are statists ... they are not progressive, they are regressive ... nothing in the ideology promotes any set of conditions that can end in anything other than tyranny in the real world.

LWW