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Gayle in MD
03-04-2011, 09:08 AM
Eugene Robinson
Note to Republicans: Cuts don't cut it
Eugene Robinson
Friday, March 4, 2011

After slamming Democrats for not focusing on "jobs, jobs, jobs," Republicans have decided to ignore their own winning message in favor of "cuts, cuts, cuts." This is bad economics - and bad politics.

If you don't believe me, read a new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll, published Thursday, that has what should be sobering news for Republicans who keep telling us that their radical assault on the size and scope of government has the support of "the American people."

It doesn't, according to the survey - not even philosophically. When asked whether government, in general, is trying to do too much or not doing enough, 51 percent said government should do more. That's not exactly a mandate for slashing federal, state and municipal programs and trying to turn public employees into a caste of untouchables.

For Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and other state and local GOP officials who are trying to crush public employee unions by eliminating collective bargaining rights, the poll suggests extreme caution - not that Walker is likely to pay heed. According to the survey, 77 percent believe that public workers should have the same bargaining rights as private-sector employees.

If Walker really wants to think of himself as the next Ronald Reagan, somebody ought to tell him that Reagan once headed the Screen Actors Guild. Which is a union.

For Republicans in Congress, especially the fired-up new majority in the House, there is plenty of cautionary news. The poll listed a number of issues facing the country and asked respondents to rank them in order of importance. Then the pollsters tallied how many respondents had ranked each issue either first or second in priority.

A pretty impressive 40 percent said that "the deficit and government spending" should be considered the federal government's No. 1 or No. 2 task. But a far more impressive 56 percent said that "job creation and economic growth" should be given first or second priority.

This clearly suggests that Republicans do have a significant constituency for the uncompromising stance they are taking on the budget. But they might want to use the two-week cease-fire, arranged on Wednesday, to consider that a much bigger constituency would rather see them working to boost growth and create jobs.

Independent economic analysts, including from the investment firm Goldman Sachs - hardly known for liberal or bleeding-heart tendencies - have concluded that the $61 billion in current-year budget cuts being demanded by House Republicans will shave up to two percentage points off the nation's growth rate and cause the loss of more than half a million jobs.

There are cynics - or maybe they are realists - who suspect that the GOP wouldn't mind seeing the economy remain in the doldrums for a while, on the theory that continued high unemployment will weaken President Obama and other Democrats in the 2012 election cycle. Such machinations would be shameful and unpatriotic, of course, but also dumb. It won't be rocket science for Democratic candidates to point to specific cuts - and remind voters of the jobs that would still exist if those cuts had not been made.

Note to the GOP: Americans recognize that public-sector jobs are, in fact, jobs. In fact, according to the new poll, they hold positive views of federal, state and local workers, especially teachers.

Yes, we must reduce massive deficits before they become a strangling, crushing burden. But most economists believe that now, as we struggle to emerge from a truly devastating recession, would be the worst possible time to make deep budget cuts - especially since the cuts in question, which affect only the sliver of federal spending deemed discretionary, will have a negligible impact on the deficit. Entitlements are the real problem.

According to the NBC-Wall Street Journal poll, three-quarters of Americans would oppose significant cuts in Medicare or Social Security. If Republicans were really serious about deficit reduction, they would be trying to explain why they believe such cuts are necessary. Democrats ought to be talking about entitlements, too, by the way, along with reasonable budget cuts. But the debate should take account of the undeniable fact that people actually want government services - which, unfortunately, have to be paid for.

So both parties should be explaining why any reasonable deficit-reduction program will include tax increases. "Cuts, cuts, cuts" isn't a plan. Right now, it's just a bad slogan.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/03/AR2011030305689.html

LWW
03-08-2011, 06:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Polls don't mean anything.

Q </div></div>

llotter
03-08-2011, 06:58 AM
While the cuts may cause a rise in the unemployment statistics and in fact be politically unpopular, it is always a good thing to decrease the number of people in the destructive sector and adding them into the productive sector. It will definitely be a challenge for many who have never been accountable to suddenly have to learn the way of the real world and to have to responsible for adding to the GDP rather than subtracting from it.

LWW
03-08-2011, 07:18 AM
If you talk to them ... many are too far gone to ever come back to reality.

LWW

Gayle in MD
03-08-2011, 07:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While the cuts may cause a rise in the unemployment statistics and in fact be politically unpopular, it is always a good thing to decrease the number of people in the destructive sector and adding them into the productive sector. It will definitely be a challenge for many who have never been accountable to suddenly have to learn the way of the real world and to have to responsible for adding to the GDP rather than subtracting from it. </div></div>

<span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>LOL, when the Repigs were passing out the Kool Aid, you grabbed the whole bucket, and gulped it right down.

I'm sure you'll thrilled when therre are no teachers, no firement, no policemen, no road workers, to dig your sorry a$$ out of the snow, no check on the poison in your food, water and air....

You guys are truly a JOKE! I never knew how close to the arse of the front Lemming's stink, the next Lemming in line prefered to keep his nose.

Recent polls are showing the public wants MORE government, not less of it. Most people are against what the WI governor is doing, something like 67 against, and only 33 for, according to the last WSJ, and last thursday, even the pollster said Repuglicans have cut their own throats, lol, it's been a pleasure watching, I must say.

Reference, yet another post title, from Lemming Sev, which is wrong, as we watch the Democratics in Wisconsin, who DO represent what Wisconsins want, standing their ground, AND the corrupt Governor, who has refused negotiations all along, acting as a dictator, now being investigated for his unethical RECORDED statements, which prove he ws on the take from the Koch Brothers, all along, proving that he should be recalled, and hence, signatures are being collected, as he is being investigated.

I'm sure they didn't tell you that at the FUX/BECK/THRUSH Kook Aid BUCKET.

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G.</span> </span>

Sev
03-08-2011, 07:38 AM
<span style='font-size: 17pt'><span style="color: #990000">I got a mention!!! I got a mention. </span></span>

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LWW
03-08-2011, 07:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>LOL, when the Repigs were passing out the Kool Aid, you grabbed the whole bucket, and gulped it right down.

G.</span> </span> </div></div>

I sense fear?

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 07:44 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>I'm sure you'll thrilled when therre are no teachers, no firement, no policemen, no road workers, to dig your sorry a$$ out of the snow, no check on the poison in your food, water and air....

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G.</span> </span> </div></div>

Yep ... complete and irrational fear.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 07:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>You guys are truly a JOKE! I never knew how close to the arse of the front Lemming's stink, the next Lemming in line prefered to keep his nose.

G.</span> </span> </div></div>

What dementia makes you even wonder about this?

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 07:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Recent polls are showing the public wants MORE government, not less of it. Most people are against what the WI governor is doing, something like 67 against, and only 33 for, according to the last WSJ, and last thursday, even the pollster said Repuglicans have cut their own throats, lol, it's been a pleasure watching, I must say.

G.</span> </span> </div></div>

According to another cabal member, polls mean nothing?

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 07:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Reference, yet another post title, from Lemming Sev, which is wrong, as we watch the Democratics in Wisconsin, who DO represent what Wisconsins want, standing their ground, AND the corrupt Governor, who has refused negotiations all along, acting as a dictator, now being investigated for his unethical RECORDED statements, which prove he ws on the take from the Koch Brothers, all along, proving that he should be recalled, and hence, signatures are being collected, as he is being investigated.

G.</span> </span> </div></div>

That's precious.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 07:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>

I'm sure they didn't tell you that at the FUX/BECK/THRUSH Kook Aid BUCKET.

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G.</span> </span> </div></div>

Why the love of vulgarity and ad hominem attacks?

LWW

pooltchr
03-08-2011, 07:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Why the love of vulgarity and ad hominem attacks?

LWW </div></div>

Signs of someone who has allowed hatred and bitterness to consume her entire being.

Steve

LWW
03-08-2011, 08:01 AM
And fear of losing what is most dear to her.

LWW

ugotda7
03-09-2011, 01:37 PM
POS......................