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LWW
03-05-2011, 02:16 PM
I have largely held my tongue over Mr Holder's blatantly racist and exclusionary words in his attempt to Balkanize America ... and then I find this piece which is written with such eloquence that it is bound to sail high above the heads of those who need to understand it the most.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>My fellow Americans, who are “your people”? I ask because U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, who is black, used the phrase “my people” in congressional testimony this week. It was an unmistakably color-coded and exclusionary reference intended to deflect criticism of the Obama Justice Department’s selective enforcement policies. It backfired.

In pandering to skin-deep identity politics and exacerbating race-consciousness, Holder has given the rest of us a golden opportunity to stand up, identify “our people” and show the liberal poseurs what post-racialism really looks like.</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cain.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Herman Cain</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>is my people. He’s my brother-in-arms. I’ve never met him. But we are family. We are kin because we are unhyphenated Americans who are comfortable in the black, brown and yellow skin we are in. We are growing in numbers — on college campuses, in elected office, on the Internet, on radio airwaves, everywhere. And that drives liberals mouth-frothing crazy.

Cain is the successful Georgia businessman who has wowed audiences across the country with his passion for free markets, free minds and the American Dream. The former president of Godfather’s Pizza and forceful tea party speaker happens to be black. So he must pay the price that all minority conservatives in public life must pay.</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>As I noted last week, a cowardly liberal writer recently derided Cain as a “monkey in the window,” a “garbage pail kid” and a “minstrel” who performs for his “masters.”

Race traitors. Whores. Sellouts. House Niggas. Self-haters. I’ve heard it for nearly 20 years in public life. Every outspoken minority conservative has. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but these spiteful epithets can’t enslave us.</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/1val.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Val Prieto</span> i<span style='font-size: 11pt'>s my people. A fierce, freedom-loving American blogger of Cuban descent, he rejects race-card games and refuses to be lumped in with Hispanic ethnic grievance-mongers. In response to pro-illegal immigration marchers who infamously desecrated the American flag, Prieto wrote:</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“I have never and will never, despite having many issues with the government of the United States throughout the years, burn a flag of the United States of America. I am Cuban by birth, American by the grace of God. And a darned proud, dignified, thankful and respectful American. … I refuse to be lumped together as a class or a race simply because we speak a similar language. … I ain’t Mexican, I ain’t Latino and I ain’t Hispanic. I am an American of Cuban descent. And damned proud of it.”</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ZZ4CD2CE171.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Katrina Pierson</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>is my people. She’s a feisty young Texas mom and Dallas tea party activist who supports limited government principles and rejects left-wing identity politics. She confronted the NAACP last year with a rousing manifesto of political independence and rebutted the left-wing group’s attacks on the tea party as racist:</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“The reality is that we colored people no longer require the assistance from other Negros for advancement,”</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Pierson said.</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“These groups run to the rescue of distressed brown people only when the media deems it newsworthy. Meanwhile, there are inner city black children who continue to grow up fatherless while sharing a neighborhood with stray bullets, drugs and a plethora of liquor stores on every corner. … I don’t believe that the true meaning of this nation’s creed was to move black people from one form of slavery to another.”</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>The NAACP, she observed, is made up of</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“Democrats who bow to a Democrat master today as they once did over 200 years ago. Once this is realized by the forgotten society, race in this country will be as irrelevant as those who thrive off of it.”</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Amen, sister.</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ZZ181AC756.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Allen West</span><span style='font-size: 11pt'>, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and freshman congressman from Florida who happens to be black, is my people. Unafraid to skewer progressive sacred cows, he speaks boldly against global jihad and its Fifth Column enablers screaming “Islam-o-phobe!” West has also nailed the Congressional Black Caucus as </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>“a monolithic voice that promotes these liberal social welfare policies and programs that are failing in the black community, that are preaching victimization and dependency; that’s not the way that we should go.”</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>According to U.S. News and World Report’s Kenneth Walsh, President Obama told guests at a private White House dinner that he believed the tea party movement had a “subterranean agenda” of racism against him. But Lt. Col. West summed up the movement’s transcendent, post-racial agenda forthrightly:</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“The tea party is a constitutional, conservative grassroots movement — and that’s it. The tea party stands for three things: They want to see effective, efficient constitutional government, they stand for national security, and they stand for free market, free enterprise solutions. That’s it.“</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>It’s government of, by and for the people — all the people. Not just the ones still shackled by reflexive Democratic Party loyalty. We are beholden not to our skin pigment or ethnic tribes, but to American ideals, tradition, history and faith in the individual.</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Three, two, one …</span> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>RAAAAAAAAAACISTS!</span>
</div></div>

Sadly, Mr Holder detests my people because they are "WE THE PEOPLE!" (http://michellemalkin.com/)

LWW

Sev
03-05-2011, 03:31 PM
OH the horror!!!
The left cant have these uppity Negro's escaping the plantation.
They are damaged goods though they know it not. They require White liberal coddling!!!

Back to the plantation with you, they will cry!!!

pooltchr
03-05-2011, 09:42 PM
I would add Bill Cosby to that list.

Steve

JohnnyD
03-05-2011, 10:35 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have largely held my tongue over Mr Holder's blatantly racist and exclusionary words in his attempt to Balkanize America ... and then I find this piece which is written with such eloquence that it is bound to sail high above the heads of those who need to understand it the most.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 11pt'>My fellow Americans, who are “your people”? I ask because U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, who is black, used the phrase “my people” in congressional testimony this week. It was an unmistakably color-coded and exclusionary reference intended to deflect criticism of the Obama Justice Department’s selective enforcement policies. It backfired.

In pandering to skin-deep identity politics and exacerbating race-consciousness, Holder has given the rest of us a golden opportunity to stand up, identify “our people” and show the liberal poseurs what post-racialism really looks like.</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cain.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Herman Cain</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>is my people. He’s my brother-in-arms. I’ve never met him. But we are family. We are kin because we are unhyphenated Americans who are comfortable in the black, brown and yellow skin we are in. We are growing in numbers — on college campuses, in elected office, on the Internet, on radio airwaves, everywhere. And that drives liberals mouth-frothing crazy.

Cain is the successful Georgia businessman who has wowed audiences across the country with his passion for free markets, free minds and the American Dream. The former president of Godfather’s Pizza and forceful tea party speaker happens to be black. So he must pay the price that all minority conservatives in public life must pay.</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>As I noted last week, a cowardly liberal writer recently derided Cain as a “monkey in the window,” a “garbage pail kid” and a “minstrel” who performs for his “masters.”

Race traitors. Whores. Sellouts. House Niggas. Self-haters. I’ve heard it for nearly 20 years in public life. Every outspoken minority conservative has. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but these spiteful epithets can’t enslave us.</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/1val.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Val Prieto</span> i<span style='font-size: 11pt'>s my people. A fierce, freedom-loving American blogger of Cuban descent, he rejects race-card games and refuses to be lumped in with Hispanic ethnic grievance-mongers. In response to pro-illegal immigration marchers who infamously desecrated the American flag, Prieto wrote:</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“I have never and will never, despite having many issues with the government of the United States throughout the years, burn a flag of the United States of America. I am Cuban by birth, American by the grace of God. And a darned proud, dignified, thankful and respectful American. … I refuse to be lumped together as a class or a race simply because we speak a similar language. … I ain’t Mexican, I ain’t Latino and I ain’t Hispanic. I am an American of Cuban descent. And damned proud of it.”</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ZZ4CD2CE171.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Katrina Pierson</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>is my people. She’s a feisty young Texas mom and Dallas tea party activist who supports limited government principles and rejects left-wing identity politics. She confronted the NAACP last year with a rousing manifesto of political independence and rebutted the left-wing group’s attacks on the tea party as racist:</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“The reality is that we colored people no longer require the assistance from other Negros for advancement,”</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Pierson said.</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“These groups run to the rescue of distressed brown people only when the media deems it newsworthy. Meanwhile, there are inner city black children who continue to grow up fatherless while sharing a neighborhood with stray bullets, drugs and a plethora of liquor stores on every corner. … I don’t believe that the true meaning of this nation’s creed was to move black people from one form of slavery to another.”</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>The NAACP, she observed, is made up of</span> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“Democrats who bow to a Democrat master today as they once did over 200 years ago. Once this is realized by the forgotten society, race in this country will be as irrelevant as those who thrive off of it.”</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Amen, sister.</span>

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ZZ181AC756.jpg

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Allen West</span><span style='font-size: 11pt'>, a retired Army lieutenant colonel and freshman congressman from Florida who happens to be black, is my people. Unafraid to skewer progressive sacred cows, he speaks boldly against global jihad and its Fifth Column enablers screaming “Islam-o-phobe!” West has also nailed the Congressional Black Caucus as </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>“a monolithic voice that promotes these liberal social welfare policies and programs that are failing in the black community, that are preaching victimization and dependency; that’s not the way that we should go.”</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>According to U.S. News and World Report’s Kenneth Walsh, President Obama told guests at a private White House dinner that he believed the tea party movement had a “subterranean agenda” of racism against him. But Lt. Col. West summed up the movement’s transcendent, post-racial agenda forthrightly:</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“The tea party is a constitutional, conservative grassroots movement — and that’s it. The tea party stands for three things: They want to see effective, efficient constitutional government, they stand for national security, and they stand for free market, free enterprise solutions. That’s it.“</span>

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>It’s government of, by and for the people — all the people. Not just the ones still shackled by reflexive Democratic Party loyalty. We are beholden not to our skin pigment or ethnic tribes, but to American ideals, tradition, history and faith in the individual.</span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Three, two, one …</span> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>RAAAAAAAAAACISTS!</span>
</div></div>

Sadly, Mr Holder detests my people because they are "WE THE PEOPLE!" (http://michellemalkin.com/)

LWW </div></div>Excellent post LWW.Thank you so much for posting on this site.Bless you.

JohnnyD
03-05-2011, 10:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OH the horror!!!
The left cant have these uppity Negro's escaping the plantation.
They are damaged goods though they know it not. They require White liberal coddling!!!

Back to the plantation with you, they will cry!!!
</div></div>The truth will set the lefties free.

LWW
03-06-2011, 02:44 AM
And I am yet to see one ... just ONE ... of our resident leftists denounce Mr Holder for attempting to Balkanize this great nation.

LWW

LWW
03-06-2011, 02:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would add Bill Cosby to that list.

Steve </div></div>

As would I have. And Condi Rice. And Colin Powell. And Clarence Thomas. And Walter Williams. And Thomas Sowell. And many many more people of color who denounce this evil regime.

LWW &lt;--- Native American.

LWW
03-06-2011, 09:01 AM
Bump to see if even one ... just ONE ... leftist here will go against the regime, just once.

LWW

pooltchr
03-06-2011, 10:18 AM
You expect much from those who are seemingly incapable of delivering.

Steve

Stretch
03-06-2011, 11:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bump to see if even one ... just ONE ... leftist here will go against the regime, just once.

LWW </div></div>

OK, i think they are bad bad bad. Obama is knowhere near socialist enough. St.

Soflasnapper
03-06-2011, 11:49 AM
Hilarious riff by Malkin on two words that do not mean what she thinks they mean.

Malkin, who wrote at book-length why those pesky Japanese and Japanese-Americans SHOULD have been interned, and that what we did there, a national disgrace admitted by nearly all in these days (Reagan himself did the national apology, and signed the reparations bill) that she thinks was absolutely justified? That Malkin?

Glenn Beck had the same take as Malkin, more or less, UNTIL HE HEARD THE CONTEXT. After hearing the context, he took back his words, and said he owed Holder an apology.

As does Malkin and the group so far on this thread.

Sev
03-06-2011, 12:10 PM
I guess they have no answer for self sufficient conservative/Libertarian blacks.

Perhaps ungrateful will help??

LWW
03-06-2011, 04:30 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hilarious riff by Malkin on two words that do not mean what she thinks they mean.</div></div>

The last refuge of a trapped in a corner leftist.

So he said what he said, and meant what he meant ... but he didn't mean what he said nor say what he meant.

You have taken doublethink to a completely new level my friend.

Now ... how about you educate us as to exactly what he meant?

This otter be good.

LWW

LWW
03-06-2011, 04:31 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess they have no answer for self sufficient conservative/Libertarian blacks.

Perhaps ungrateful will help?? </div></div>

Uncle Tom is the most common term.

LWW

Soflasnapper
03-06-2011, 09:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hilarious riff by Malkin on two words that do not mean what she thinks they mean.</div></div>

The last refuge of a trapped in a corner leftist.

So he said what he said, and meant what he meant ... but he didn't mean what he said nor say what he meant.

You have taken doublethink to a completely new level my friend.

Now ... how about you educate us as to exactly what he meant?

This otter be good.

LWW </div></div>

Glenn Beck based his apology-- well, he didn't actually apologize, of course, but DID say 'I owe him an apology' which he then proceeded to not offer so far as I heard-- on a suggestion that Holder was talking about his family, his sister in particular.

Go ahead and explain the diabolical nature of anyone referencing 'my family' as 'my people.'

pooltchr
03-06-2011, 09:43 PM
So his use of a term that has been for years used to describe members of one's race wasn't really what it appeared to be.

OK, I will buy that when the left admits that Palin wasn't promoting violence when she used the surveryor's symbols on the map (You know...the ones that they called crosshairs).

Steve

LWW
03-07-2011, 04:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hilarious riff by Malkin on two words that do not mean what she thinks they mean.</div></div>

The last refuge of a trapped in a corner leftist.

So he said what he said, and meant what he meant ... but he didn't mean what he said nor say what he meant.

You have taken doublethink to a completely new level my friend.

Now ... how about you educate us as to exactly what he meant?

This otter be good.

LWW </div></div>

Glenn Beck based his apology-- well, he didn't actually apologize, of course, but DID say 'I owe him an apology' which he then proceeded to not offer so far as I heard-- on a suggestion that Holder was talking about his family, his sister in particular.

Go ahead and explain the diabolical nature of anyone referencing 'my family' as 'my people.'



</div></div>

So you can't actually explain what he meant?

Why not just say that?

LWW

LWW
03-07-2011, 04:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So his use of a term that has been for years used to describe members of one's race wasn't really what it appeared to be.

OK, I will buy that when the left admits that Palin wasn't promoting violence when she used the surveryor's symbols on the map (You know...the ones that they called crosshairs).

Steve </div></div>

And that's the compromise ideology that made Alinsky famous.

You agree to accept one massive lie from the left in exchange for them denouncing their second massive lie.

The end result of that is that one massive lie is accepted, and the second will continue to be repeated anyway.

It is self apparent what Mr Holder meant when he stated that prosecuting the Black Panthers would cause him issues because they were "HIS PEOPLE" ... and notice that he wasn't even embracing blacks in general as "HIS PEOPLE." That would have merely been racist. He was embracing the thug element of black culture as "HIS PEOPLE."

But, according to leftist dogma, when dear leader says "IF THEY BRING A KNIFE, WE BRING A GUN" isn't a call for violence and when a democrook politburo member says "YOU NEED TO GET A LITTLE BLOODY WHEN NECESSARY!" it's a call for peaceful discussion.

Much like 1920's Europe, we are teetering at the abyss.

LWW

pooltchr
03-07-2011, 06:50 AM
It was a safe bet, Larry. Nobody from the left is ever going to admit they were wrong when they attacked Palin over that issue.

Steve

LWW
03-07-2011, 06:52 AM
Excellent post.

LWW

Sev
03-07-2011, 06:56 AM
Ammo sales are rising.

Qtec
03-07-2011, 07:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was a safe bet, Larry. Nobody from the left is ever going to admit they were wrong when they attacked Palin over that issue.

Steve </div></div>

What are you talking about?

Q

JohnnyD
03-07-2011, 07:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was a safe bet, Larry. Nobody from the left is ever going to admit they were wrong when they attacked Palin over that issue.

Steve </div></div>Very true.The truth has been told.

pooltchr
03-07-2011, 07:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What are you talking about?

Q </div></div>

You can go back to sleep, Q. You obviously can't keep up with the conversation.

Steve

JohnnyD
03-07-2011, 07:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What are you talking about?

Q </div></div>

You can go back to sleep, Q. You obviously can't keep up with the conversation.

Steve </div></div>So i've noticed.

Soflasnapper
03-07-2011, 11:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So his use of a term that has been for years used to describe members of one's race wasn't really what it appeared to be.

OK, I will buy that when the left admits that Palin wasn't promoting violence when she used the surveryor's symbols on the map (You know...the ones that they called crosshairs).

Steve </div></div>

And that's the compromise ideology that made Alinsky famous.

You agree to accept one massive lie from the left in exchange for them denouncing their second massive lie.

The end result of that is that one massive lie is accepted, and the second will continue to be repeated anyway.

It is self apparent what Mr Holder meant when he stated that prosecuting the Black Panthers would cause him issues because they were "HIS PEOPLE" ... and notice that he wasn't even embracing blacks in general as "HIS PEOPLE." That would have merely been racist. He was embracing the thug element of black culture as "HIS PEOPLE."

But, according to leftist dogma, when dear leader says "IF THEY BRING A KNIFE, WE BRING A GUN" isn't a call for violence and when a democrook politburo member says "YOU NEED TO GET A LITTLE BLOODY WHEN NECESSARY!" it's a call for peaceful discussion.

Much like 1920's Europe, we are teetering at the abyss.

LWW </div></div>

I couldn't tell you whether Glenn Beck was right, because the media coverage basically edited out the rest of Holder's remarks that actually did explain what he meant.

I've seen it now, and it's clear. But the better question is why didn't the media cover the rest of his SENTENCE, instead of stopping at the allegedly offensive phrasing? And the answer is shamefully clear. Attack dogs do not want to know the details, they just want something to attack.

So here's the fuller quote:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> HOLDER: But, I mean, think about that. When you compare what people endured in the South in the '60s to try to get the right to vote for African-Americans, and to compare what people were subjected to there, to what happened in Philadelphia, which is inappropriate -- it's certainly that -- but to call that -- to put it -- you describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line, who risked all for my people, my wife's sister.

Anyway, the University of Alabama -- George Wallace stood in the door and said that she, as a state resident, could not attend the University of Alabama, Vivian Malone, who I'm proud to say was my sister-in-law -- to compare that kind of courage, that kind of action, and to say that the Black Panther incident, wrong though it might be, somehow is greater in magnitude or is a greater concern to us, historically, I think just flies in the face of history and in the facts. [House Appropriations Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies, 3/1/11]
</div></div>

Soflasnapper
03-07-2011, 11:42 AM
Beck's apology explanation:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Beck Says He "Owe[s]" Holder "An Apology" But Still Contends "You Could Take [Comment] Either Way." The day after he blasted Holder for his comments, Beck again revisited Holder's remarks, saying that after hearing the audio of Holder's complete statement, "you give the speaker the benefit of the doubt." He went on to say that it was possible Holder was referring to his family when he made the comment, saying, "I think, personally, I owe him an apology." But he later added: "I think you could take it either way." From the show:

PAT GRAY (co-host): And you gotta be in complete agreement, you can't compare what happened in Philadelphia to what African-Americans went through for 100 years. You can't compare the two. So, he's right about this. But then he throws in "my people."

[..]

BECK: That's what I thought he was saying in the last one. He's saying there were -- my -- people fought and died for my people, meaning African-American. And I think that is acceptable in that context. It's not the way -- if I were African-American, it's not the way that I would hope that I would speak, but I think it is acceptable to say it that way. It's fuzzy. You agree it's fuzzy. To me, when it's fuzzy, you give the speaker the benefit of the doubt, which they never do to me, but I will give to them.

[...]

BECK: I was 90 seconds to air when I was listening to this last night because we couldn't get it all day. And I owe -- I think, personally, I owe him an apology 'cause we talked about this on the radio yesterday, didn't we? I owe him an apology for taking him and not having -- just taking the written transcript and not having the whole transcript. Now, I don't think that -- I mean, I think you could take it either way. You don't have to give him the benefit of the doubt because he has said this -- we're a nation of cowards when it comes to race, which I completely disagree with.

I think he is absolutely wrong on this thing in Philadelphia and I don't -- I believe it is something else that's going on with him on the -- and I, personally, I think it's corruption -- but there's something going on with the Black Panthers in Philadelphia, the way they are handling this case. It's wrong. Something's wrong. I think it's corruption.

But, yesterday, I said, you know, he was talking about my people -- didn't have -- couldn't listen to it. And when you listen to it, it changes. Premiere Radio Networks, The Glenn Beck Program, 3/3/11]
</div></div>

LWW
03-07-2011, 04:55 PM
Whether or not the actions of the NBPP were or were not wose than those suffered in the 1960's at the polls, according to RFK's former campaign manager the NBPP's actions were the worst voter intimidation he had ever seen or heard or, is totally without relevance.

The acts were illegal and they were heinous by Mr Holder's own admission ... and Mr Holder failed to prosecute because they were black, again by his own admission.

Making excuses for this is no different than making excuses for a prosecuter who wouldn't prosecute a cross burning.

But, you already knew that.

LWW

Soflasnapper
03-07-2011, 06:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whether or not the actions of the NBPP were or were not wose than those suffered in the 1960's at the polls, according to RFK's former campaign manager the NBPP's actions were the worst voter intimidation he had ever seen or heard or, is totally without relevance.

The acts were illegal and they were heinous by Mr Holder's own admission ... and Mr Holder failed to prosecute because they were black, again by his own admission.

Making excuses for this is no different than making excuses for a prosecuter who wouldn't prosecute a cross burning.

But, you already knew that.

LWW </div></div>

The acts were probably not illegal, or at least, don't present a fact pattern that would lead to successful conviction.

The requirements of show that law was broken are very high, and so high that there have only been 3 successful prosecutions under that law, ever.

Apparently, after some dozens of hearings dedicated by the GOP civil rights commission to find that a crime had been committed, no party who had been intimidated could be found.

If you're going to go all Nancy Grace on us, shouting 'guilty, guilty!' quite before trial, you should at least have a background as a prosecutor or some other expertise.

Or you become like the overly loud, overly opinionated drunk in the bar, who talks out of his hat.

Sev
03-07-2011, 06:54 PM
It would have been nice to have seen some Hells Angles show up and beat the living piss out of them. And then help a little old lady through the door.

I am sure at that point a legal move would have been made.

LWW
03-08-2011, 04:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whether or not the actions of the NBPP were or were not wose than those suffered in the 1960's at the polls, according to RFK's former campaign manager the NBPP's actions were the worst voter intimidation he had ever seen or heard or, is totally without relevance.

The acts were illegal and they were heinous by Mr Holder's own admission ... and Mr Holder failed to prosecute because they were black, again by his own admission.

Making excuses for this is no different than making excuses for a prosecuter who wouldn't prosecute a cross burning.

But, you already knew that.

LWW </div></div>

The acts were probably not illegal, or at least, don't present a fact pattern that would lead to successful conviction.</div></div>

1 - There we have it. According to the left, threatening voters with a billy club at the polls isn't a crime. Not that the left has any respect for election law, but campaigning of any kind at the polls is illegal. Here in Ohio I was chastised and threatened with a citation if I didn't remove an elephant cufflink while working at the polls ... nobody was bothered that the other sleeve had a donkey cufflink.

2 - The NBBP was convicted. Mr Holder dropped the case after conviction.

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 09:16 AM
Funny how that works.

LWW
03-08-2011, 09:59 AM
And sad the level of denial the far left will engage in to excuse the regime.

LWW

Soflasnapper
03-08-2011, 10:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So his use of a term that has been for years used to describe members of one's race wasn't really what it appeared to be.

OK, I will buy that when the left admits that Palin wasn't promoting violence when she used the surveryor's symbols on the map (You know...the ones that they called crosshairs).

Steve </div></div>

Steve, this is an ignorant comment.

Surely you know that PALIN referred to them as crosshairs as well? Is she a member of the left now, as well, perhaps, according to LWW's spoon?

Soflasnapper
03-08-2011, 10:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whether or not the actions of the NBPP were or were not wose than those suffered in the 1960's at the polls, according to RFK's former campaign manager the NBPP's actions were the worst voter intimidation he had ever seen or heard or, is totally without relevance.

The acts were illegal and they were heinous by Mr Holder's own admission ... and Mr Holder failed to prosecute because they were black, again by his own admission.

Making excuses for this is no different than making excuses for a prosecuter who wouldn't prosecute a cross burning.

But, you already knew that.

LWW </div></div>

The acts were probably not illegal, or at least, don't present a fact pattern that would lead to successful conviction.</div></div>

1 - There we have it. According to the left, threatening voters with a billy club at the polls isn't a crime. Not that the left has any respect for election law, but campaigning of any kind at the polls is illegal. Here in Ohio I was chastised and threatened with a citation if I didn't remove an elephant cufflink while working at the polls ... nobody was bothered that the other sleeve had a donkey cufflink.

2 - The NBBP was convicted. Mr Holder dropped the case after conviction.

LWW </div></div>

Only one guy even had a billy club, and the entire video evidence is that he tapped it in his hand as most rent-a-cop security type people might do. There was no showing that anyone was threatened or intimidated from voting in any manner they chose.

All those memes are false. They also weren't blocking the entrance, as has also been falsely claimed.

One of the men was an officially appointed poll watcher, and nothing he did was inconsistent with that duty, nor did the OTHER guy do anything more than the first man.

This 'case' was purely based on the idea held by some white people, I guess, that merely seeing two black men is a terrifying intimidation. In a nearly 100% black precinct, evidently opinions differ from that view, and actually, by all the multiple testimony heard, no voter took that view whatsoever. White people who showed up to pump this nothing-burger into a national scandal may have honestly felt endangered, or not, hard to tell. But even granting an honest fear, they were not voters there.

LWW
03-08-2011, 10:30 AM
So RFK's campaign manager, the witness who agreed to press the case only if he had a guarantee for his safety that the feds would actually do something, is lying ... along with all the other witnesses and video?

How low can you go?

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 10:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only one guy even had a billy club ... </div></div>

And how many billy clubs does it take to beat someone?

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 10:33 AM
Next you can explain the additional video evidence of his comments that they need to "KILL SOME CRACKA POE-LEASE" and that he "HATES EVERY IOTA OF A CRACKA" and that it's time to "KILL SOME CRACKA BABIES" ...

LWW

Soflasnapper
03-08-2011, 04:39 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So RFK's campaign manager, the witness who agreed to press the case only if he had a guarantee for his safety that the feds would actually do something, is lying ... along with all the other witnesses and video?

How low can you go?

LWW </div></div>

I saw the video, endlessly replayed. Nothing happened on that video. RFK's campaign manager testified he was intimidated from voting? I don't think so.

Intimidating a black precinct with two black people in rent-a-cop uniforms is an absurd notion, for which there is zero evidence FROM VOTERS WHO VOTED THERE.

Soflasnapper
03-08-2011, 04:40 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only one guy even had a billy club ... </div></div>

And how many billy clubs does it take to beat someone?

LWW </div></div>

And how many people were beaten with this billy club? How many were threatened to be beaten with this billy club?

Zero.

Soflasnapper
03-08-2011, 04:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Next you can explain the additional video evidence of his comments that they need to "KILL SOME CRACKA POE-LEASE" and that he "HATES EVERY IOTA OF A CRACKA" and that it's time to "KILL SOME CRACKA BABIES" ...

LWW </div></div>

WHO 'his'?

Not either of the two men there.

LWW
03-09-2011, 03:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Next you can explain the additional video evidence of his comments that they need to "KILL SOME CRACKA POE-LEASE" and that he "HATES EVERY IOTA OF A CRACKA" and that it's time to "KILL SOME CRACKA BABIES" ...

LWW </div></div>

WHO 'his'?

Not either of the two men there. </div></div>

King Shabazz, the man with the billy club.

LWW

LWW
03-09-2011, 03:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So RFK's campaign manager, the witness who agreed to press the case only if he had a guarantee for his safety that the feds would actually do something, is lying ... along with all the other witnesses and video?

How low can you go?

LWW </div></div>

I saw the video, endlessly replayed. Nothing happened on that video. RFK's campaign manager testified he was intimidated from voting? I don't think so.

Intimidating a black precinct with two black people in rent-a-cop uniforms is an absurd notion, for which there is zero evidence FROM VOTERS WHO VOTED THERE. </div></div>

Sadly, the US Commission on Civil Rights records totally slay the lie the regime's state run media has spoon fed you.

LEARN THE TRUTH (http://www.usccr.gov/NBPH/NBPH.htm)

LWW

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:01 AM
If you do read it you will find things like this:

HILL: [Shabazz] immediately started with ‘What are you doing here, Cracker?’ And he and Mr. Jackson attempted to close ranks. I went straight between them through the door to find our poll watcher, who was inside the building at the time…he was pretty shaken up…he was visibly upset.

QUESTION: What did he tell you?

HILL: He was called a race traitor for being a poll watcher, credentialed poll watcher for the Republican Party as a black man, and that he was threatened if he stepped outside of the building, there would be hell to pay.

LWW

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:02 AM
And this:

QUESTION: How were third parties reacting to the presence and the actions of the Panther members?

HILL: People were put off when – there were a couple of people that walked up, a couple of people that drove up, and they would come to a screeching halt because it’s not something you expect to see in front of a polling place. As I was standing on the corner, I had two older ladies and an older gentleman stop right next to me, ask what was going on. I said, ‘Truthfully, we don’t really know. All we know is there’s two Black Panthers here.’ And the lady said, ‘Well, we’ll just come back.’ And so, they walked away.

LWW

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:03 AM
And this:

THERNSTROM: But otherwise, did you see anybody at the polling place who obviously intended to vote, and didn’t end up voting because of the presence of the New Black Panther Party members?

HILL: It was two women and a gentleman….They stopped right at the corner of the driveway, circular drive, where I was standing on the phone, and they said, ‘What’s going on?’ Truthfully, I didn’t really have a good answer for them…But at that exact moment in time, those people were not going near that doorway, and ma’am, I’m not as well versed as you are in these civil rights issues, but they were intimidated.

LWW

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:04 AM
And this:

BULL: One of them was waving a baton like that, slapping against his hand, pointing at people. And several people – I was more or less at the end of the driveway, and several people began to walk up the driveways, saw these guys, and then went back and didn’t go on to vote.

QUESTION: Did the individuals that you saw turn around, those were people that you believed were coming to vote?

BULL: Oh, yes, yes. That’s the only reason you walk along that long block on the pavement, and then go in the long driveway. And several walked in, saw this at the door, and walked back out the drive.

LWW

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:06 AM
And all of that was witnessed by people who were there for a single hour.

We are of different ends of the political spectrum, but surely I haven't misjudged you so badly that you will actually continue to make excuses for such thuggery after you know the truth?

Have I?

LWW

LWW
10-07-2011, 10:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In news sure to inject shock and awe into the Republican political primary season, a Zogby poll released Thursday showed <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Herman Cain leading the Republican field, topping former front-runner Mitt Romney by an astonishing 20 points. Cain would also narrowly edge out Obama in a general election, the poll found, by a 46-44 margin.</span> </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>OH DEAR! (http://news.yahoo.com/poll-cain-surges-opens-20-point-lead-romney-132015440.html)</span>