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hondo
03-07-2011, 09:35 PM
I received a PM this evening from johnny d's rabbi,
Morris Sevowitz.
The rabbi informed me that our johnny suffers from severe
delirium tremors from years of alcohol abuse and only attends synogogue sporadically.
Then mainly to bum money to buy Glenfiddich.
I guess his wife left him 5 years ago and apparently he has rarely held a job.

The rabbi said he is a kindly soul who never graduated from high school and has been on public assistance for some time.

I was reluctant to post this because the PM seemed a little suspicious to me and I cannot verify its authenticity.

I am only posting this because it had an air of truth to it.
If I have been the victim of a cruel hoax, it's not funny to
dis-credit a fine gentleman like johnny who seems to only have others' business at heart.

pooltchr
03-07-2011, 09:47 PM
What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Do you know what an internet troll is?

Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Why do you want to $H** all over the forum? Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve

hondo
03-07-2011, 10:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Do you know what an internet troll is?

Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Why do you want to $H** all over the forum? Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>

Good point.
Brother johnny has been a pillar of common sense and decency on here, hasn't he?

wolfdancer
03-07-2011, 10:27 PM
I found that pretty funny, as one form of humor is exaggeration; another absurdity .....
Now the posts about my sisters that 2 members here made....those weren't meant to be humorous, and I'm still waiting for the person who wrote that he could even add more to those comments....to post them?

JohnnyD
03-07-2011, 11:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Do you know what an internet troll is?

Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Why do you want to $H** all over the forum? Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>Well said.Remember this is from a "supposed" school teacher!The other seems to stir quite a bit.He is afraid of the truth.The truth will set him free.

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 12:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Do you know what an internet troll is?

Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Why do you want to $H** all over the forum? Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>

Good point.
Brother johnny has been a pillar of common sense and decency on here, hasn't he? </div></div> I'll bet your fellow workers and students are still celebrating you quitting.

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 12:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I received a PM this evening from johnny d's rabbi,
Morris Sevowitz.
The rabbi informed me that our johnny suffers from severe
delirium tremors from years of alcohol abuse and only attends synogogue sporadically.
Then mainly to bum money to buy Glenfiddich.
I guess his wife left him 5 years ago and apparently he has rarely held a job.

The rabbi said he is a kindly soul who never graduated from high school and has been on public assistance for some time.

I was reluctant to post this because the PM seemed a little suspicious to me and I cannot verify its authenticity.

I am only posting this because it had an air of truth to it.
If I have been the victim of a cruel hoax, it's not funny to
dis-credit a fine gentleman like johnny who seems to only have others' business at heart. </div></div>Continue talking about porn like the other day.A real fine example you are.

wolfdancer
03-08-2011, 12:09 AM
I've read, then reread this 3 times over the course of an hour and a half....and I've almost spilled my drink all three times
.....lol

wolfdancer
03-08-2011, 12:13 AM
Luke 4:23
I think your reply here is a classic!!!
I intend to copy and save, then post it as a reply to you, when it is apropos....
It took some gall to write that, as imo....that's what you do

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 12:36 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 12:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've read, then reread this 3 times over the course of an hour and a half....and I've almost spilled my drink all three times
.....lol </div></div>Try to comprehend.Learn motor skills on properly holding a drink of your choice.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH

LWW
03-08-2011, 05:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Steve </div></div>

Hate would be my guess.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 05:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you know what an internet troll is?

Steve </div></div>

Assuming he has a mirror, I'd say he does.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 05:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Steve </div></div>

Please tell me that isn't a serious question.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 05:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why do you want to $H** all over the forum?

Steve </div></div>

If you read aitch's bio thread on AZB ... he merely projected his existence onto someone else.

Being unable to lift himself, he seeks to destroy others.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 05:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>

Isn't the answer self evident?

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 05:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've read, then reread this 3 times over the course of an hour and a half....and I've almost spilled my drink all three times
.....lol </div></div>Try to comprehend.Learn motor skills on properly holding a drink of your choice.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH </div></div>

JohnnyD ... my best advice to you is to not feed the trolls.

LWW

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>

Isn't the answer self evident?

LWW </div></div>

that thread was posted out of love.

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:31 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I found that pretty funny, as one form of humor is exaggeration; another absurdity .....
Now the posts about my sisters that 2 members here made....those weren't meant to be humorous, and I'm still waiting for the person who wrote that he could even add more to those comments....to post them?
</div></div>

These folks are without humor, Wolfie.
they can dish out their brand of hate and think it's funny
but are outraged if anyone dare return the favor, even in a mild form.
As I said earlier, these are not nice people, Wolfie.
This board is over-run with Neo-Nazi type bullies who
must have their way.
Scary folks.

Sev
03-08-2011, 07:32 AM
I am not Johnnyd's rabbi.

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Do you know what an internet troll is?

Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Why do you want to $H** all over the forum? Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>Well said.Remember this is from a "supposed" school teacher!The other seems to stir quite a bit.He is afraid of the truth.The truth will set him free. </div></div>

I love you, johnny, and will continue to pray for you.
Does your hate towards me bother me?
Of course it does, my brother.
But Rabbi Sevowitz's kind PM has helped me to understand you better.

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Do you know what an internet troll is?

Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Why do you want to $H** all over the forum? Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>

Good point.
Brother johnny has been a pillar of common sense and decency on here, hasn't he? </div></div> I'll bet your fellow workers and students are still celebrating you quitting. </div></div>

Christian charity, my brother, Christian charity.

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've read, then reread this 3 times over the course of an hour and a half....and I've almost spilled my drink all three times
.....lol </div></div>

Thanks, Wolfie. Trying to get a little payback.
i see in the PMs that dub and sev/johnny are going to have Mr. Wilson ban me.
Their code word is "Waterloo."
They can dish it out but can't take it.
Sad.
So, I imagine I'll be gone before too long.

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Luke 4:23
I think your reply here is a classic!!!
I intend to copy and save, then post it as a reply to you, when it is apropos....
It took some gall to write that, as imo....that's what you do
</div></div>

Yep, that's what they do.
sev/johnny once sent me 75 childish posts in 3 days to my one.
Not a word from the self-righteous jennings.

Gayle in MD
03-08-2011, 07:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>

Isn't the answer self evident?

LWW </div></div>

that thread was posted out of love. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=hondo][quote=LWW][quote=pooltchr]Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

</div></div>


<span style="color: #660000"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>BWA HA HA HA! Of all the people to write that! The forum slanderer, who's filth and slander on this forum, is unparalelled!

An Unparalleled Hypocrite, who wrote this!....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">maybe some of the cooler heads might prevail and just ignore the garbage and not even respond. These are like children trying to get attention. If they don't get it here, maybe they will go elsewhere.
</div></div>

Then follows up by stalkin every one of my posts, with insults and slander!

G. </span></span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA </div></div>

Careful, sev. Remember you're supposed to be johnny.
It must be hard to keep track of who you are.

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:44 AM
We know who you are.

Sev
03-08-2011, 07:44 AM
Still trying to stay on top I see.

hondo
03-08-2011, 07:46 AM
Their hypocritical posts on here would be funny if we didn't know that these are truly vile folks.

Sev
03-08-2011, 07:49 AM
Just of whom are speaking??

pooltchr
03-08-2011, 07:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We know who you are. </div></div>

As do we regarding you. And unfortunately, what we see is not pretty!

Steve

Gayle in MD
03-08-2011, 08:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Their hypocritical posts on here would be funny if we didn't know that these are truly vile folks. </div></div>

Yep, but hey, what else could we expect??? After all, they are ALL Repiglicans, hiding in Libertarian clothing, ah hem, or is that SHEEP'S clothing, lol...

Bah Bah Bah....the poor, poor Little Wonkie Weenies of the world, so out of touch, so it seems, but the suspension of their critical thinking skills, on CRACK, is willful. That's the pitiful part.

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

hondo
03-08-2011, 08:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What would make you fabricate a story like that, and post it on a public forum?

Do you know what an internet troll is?

Was there some reason for this nonsense orher than to stir up more crap?

Why do you want to $H** all over the forum? Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>Well said.Remember this is from a "supposed" school teacher!The other seems to stir quite a bit.He is afraid of the truth.The truth will set him free. </div></div>

Sir, the bet is on. Put up or pay up.
We have a legal and binding contract.
I expect to be paid the 40 large.

hondo
03-08-2011, 08:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just of whom are speaking?? </div></div>

Would you like to buy a pronoun, johnny?

LWW
03-08-2011, 08:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am not Johnnyd's rabbi. </div></div>

And if I ever find out that you are Monty Burns there's Hades to pay!

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 08:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We know who you are. </div></div>

So do I. Whats your point?

LWW
03-08-2011, 08:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just of whom are speaking?? </div></div>

ANyone who will play with his game with him.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 08:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whats your point? </div></div>

I'll take "WHAT'S UNDER THE 'MAIL POUCH' CAP?" for $800.00!

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 08:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just of whom are speaking?? </div></div>

Would you like to buy a pronoun, johnny? </div></div>

Johnny our boy cant seem to stay focused.

LWW
03-08-2011, 08:20 AM
Shine will cause that.

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 09:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whats your point? </div></div>

I'll take "WHAT'S UNDER THE 'MAIL POUCH' CAP?" for $800.00!

LWW </div></div>

Good one. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

LWW
03-08-2011, 10:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whats your point? </div></div>

I'll take "WHAT'S UNDER THE 'MAIL POUCH' CAP?" for $800.00!

LWW </div></div>

Good one. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif </div></div>

I have my moments.

LWW

LWW
03-08-2011, 10:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still trying to stay on top I see. </div></div>

This fits here:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4743257423_b6a7fc471c_b.jpg

LWW

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 10:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=pooltchr]Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

Steve </div></div>

Isn't the answer self evident?

LWW </div></div>You obviously don't read your own posts.

that thread was posted out of love. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=LWW][quote=pooltchr]Do you hate everyone here so much that you would stoop to this level?

</div></div>


<span style="color: #660000"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>BWA HA HA HA! Of all the people to write that! The forum slanderer, who's filth and slander on this forum, is unparalelled!

An Unparalleled Hypocrite, who wrote this!....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">maybe some of the cooler heads might prevail and just ignore the garbage and not even respond. These are like children trying to get attention. If they don't get it here, maybe they will go elsewhere.
</div></div>

Then follows up by stalkin every one of my posts, with insults and slander!

G. </span></span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif </div></div>

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 10:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still trying to stay on top I see. </div></div>
Code word-WATERLOOOOOOO

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 10:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We know who you are. </div></div>

As do we regarding you. And unfortunately, what we see is not pretty!

Steve </div></div>Code word-WATERLOOOO

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 10:13 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We know who you are. </div></div>

As do we regarding you. And unfortunately, what we see is not pretty!

Steve </div></div>How true that is.He is afraid of the truth.The truth will set him free.

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 10:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just of whom are speaking?? </div></div>

Would you like to buy a pronoun, johnny? </div></div>

Johnny our boy cant seem to stay focused. </div></div>
He is afraid of the truth.He knows the truth will set him free.
WATERLOOOOO

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 10:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still trying to stay on top I see. </div></div>

This fits here:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4743257423_b6a7fc471c_b.jpg

LWW </div></div>WATERLOOOO

Sev
03-08-2011, 10:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still trying to stay on top I see. </div></div>

This fits here:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4743257423_b6a7fc471c_b.jpg

LWW </div></div>

HEH HEH HEH!!

LWW
03-08-2011, 10:37 AM
Waterloo ... if they are fortuneate and miss the shore.

LWW

pooltchr
03-08-2011, 11:22 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Then follows up by stalkin every one of my posts, with insults and slander!

G. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif </div></div>

It isn't slander when it is the truth.


Steve

LWW
03-08-2011, 11:27 AM
Didn't she follow me with insults and slander when she said that?

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 11:28 AM
Its the only way she know to show affection. after all your about to be kinged.

LWW
03-08-2011, 11:33 AM
I may have to knight a few?

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 11:34 AM
I am sure the scepter will find a good use. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

LWW
03-08-2011, 11:36 AM
I can think of a place I might leave it?

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 11:37 AM
Ever scepter needs sheath. Or is that a sword??

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 11:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't she follow me with insults and slander when she said that?

LWW </div></div>YES,and that is the truth.They cannot handle the truth.They revel in their hate filled posts.
LWW you are going to be the best leader here.One of my finest scotch whiskeys awaits this great event.The myth slayer will set all free.The truth will set them free,but they do not accept the truth.I toast you now with a Grey Goose vodka.LWW one of the worlds greatest thinkers.

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 11:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I may have to knight a few?

LWW </div></div>You notice that THEY left.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LWW
03-08-2011, 11:44 AM
Imagine that?

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 11:47 AM
The wolfer is left standing guard.

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 11:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The wolfer is left standing guard. </div></div>
HAHAHAHA what a mark.
It's in place Sev.

LWW
03-08-2011, 11:49 AM
And a lone woofie he shall be ...

Sev
03-08-2011, 11:50 AM
So true.

wolfdancer
03-08-2011, 12:54 PM
I also believe that you are now the main focus of the latest blitzkrieg attack. I think you can still respond and defend yourself as long as you don't sink to that level. E.G.: after they make some rude, personally insulting comment, about you...ask them to offer some proof of their allegations. On the other hand, why bother, as any fair minded, neutral party would be put off by their choice comments.

LWW
03-08-2011, 01:10 PM
As he is now.

LWW

Sev
03-08-2011, 01:17 PM
Indeed.

LWW
03-08-2011, 01:24 PM
And possibly will remain so ...

wolfdancer
03-08-2011, 01:40 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LWW
03-08-2011, 01:49 PM
Isn't it sad that a grown man would start such a thread as this, laced with ethnic and racial slurs, after telling us about how he teaches Sunday School and was West Virginia "ENGLISH TEACHER OF THE YEAR" ... and then claims victimhood?

LWW
03-08-2011, 01:49 PM
And what's even sadder is that another grown man is such a troll that he cheers on such teachery!

Sev
03-08-2011, 01:51 PM
He doesn't even see the indignity of it all.

wolfdancer
03-08-2011, 02:00 PM
Hondo is not interested in your type of alcohol fueled posts, laced with your inane comments,(IMO) and foolish claims that you are the truth.
The truth is....well, that would probably get me in trouble here again, so I'll keep my thoughts on that private, and maybe just pm them....wait,... the pm app for me has been turned off, as I may then comment negatively to those same friends, about the usual suspects.
I had an alcoholic step-father,... good guy, but when he got too heavily into the sauce, he made about as much sense as you do (IMO)
The difference was, he did not lash out at others, instead his
"unique", and not too well appreciated sense of humor, took over.

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 02:53 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't it sad that a grown man would start such a thread as this, laced with ethnic and racial slurs, after telling us about how he teaches Sunday School and was West Virginia "ENGLISH TEACHER OF THE YEAR" ... and then claims victimhood? </div></div>I'm sure the award was to shut him up after years of whinning for it.After all who else can they give the award to he was the ONLY ENGLISH teacher!

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 02:54 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And what's even sadder is that another grown man is such a troll that he cheers on such teachery! </div></div>One is the pet monkey of the other i found out and that is the truth.

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 02:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 02:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 02:57 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He doesn't even see the indignity of it all. </div></div>
Not one bit.WIll he ever see the light.

pooltchr
03-08-2011, 04:23 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hondo is not interested in your type of alcohol fueled posts, </div></div>

Sure he is. He lives for it. He wakes up every day hoping someone will post something about him, or to him.

The news just ran a story about where people are the happiest...Hawaii, Alaska and I think it was North Dakota were the top 3. Two of the bottom were West Virginia and Kentucky.

I guess the forum is his outlet that helps him escape his dreary existence.

Steve

JohnnyD
03-08-2011, 04:33 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hondo is not interested in your type of alcohol fueled posts, </div></div>

Sure he is. He lives for it. He wakes up every day hoping someone will post something about him, or to him.

The news just ran a story about where people are the happiest...Hawaii, Alaska and I think it was North Dakota were the top 3. Two of the bottom were West Virginia and Kentucky.

I guess the forum is his outlet that helps him escape his dreary existence.

Steve </div></div>Maybe if he wore shoes it would help him comprehend better.

JohnnyD
03-09-2011, 12:20 AM
Ohh my!

Stretch
03-09-2011, 01:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I may have to knight a few?

LWW </div></div>You notice that THEY left.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA </div></div>

By the way you guys were carring on we thought you wanted to be alone....St.

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am not Johnnyd's rabbi. </div></div>

And if I find out that you are Monty Burns there's Hades to pay!

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:39 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JohnnyD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He doesn't even see the indignity of it all. </div></div>
Not one bit.WIll he ever see the light. </div></div>

You are learning JohnnyD.

The cabal trolls for a fight.

They hate civil discourse.

They cannot lift their own self, so they seek to destroy all which is good.

We should set an example for them to witness.

LWW

JohnnyD
11-11-2012, 02:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I received a PM this evening from johnny d's rabbi,
Morris Sevowitz.
The rabbi informed me that our johnny suffers from severe
delirium tremors from years of alcohol abuse and only attends synogogue sporadically.
Then mainly to bum money to buy Glenfiddich.
I guess his wife left him 5 years ago and apparently he has rarely held a job.

The rabbi said he is a kindly soul who never graduated from high school and has been on public assistance for some time.

I was reluctant to post this because the PM seemed a little suspicious to me and I cannot verify its authenticity.

I am only posting this because it had an air of truth to it.
If I have been the victim of a cruel hoax, it's not funny to
dis-credit a fine gentleman like johnny who seems to only have others' business at heart. </div></div>
BLOODY HYPOCRITE.SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER!

STOLEN VALOR ACT.

LWW
11-11-2012, 06:50 AM
He embraces the lie at every opportunity ... please pray for him JohnnyD.

Hate the sin, but love the sinner.

JohnnyD
11-11-2012, 02:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He embraces the lie at every opportunity ... please pray for him JohnnyD.

Hate the sin, but love the sinner. </div></div>
Many prayers have been said for him.Pastor told us along time ago that it may take time for him to calm down.
Today pastor isn't doing too well during services he was bitten by an eastern diamond back rattler.Prayers are needed.
Jesus loves all.

LWW
11-11-2012, 04:18 PM
God, whose nature is ever merciful and forgiving, accept our prayer that this servant of yours, bound by the fetters of sin, may be pardoned by your loving kindness.

Holy Lord, almighty Father, everlasting God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who once and for all consigned that fallen and apostate tyrant to the flames of hell, who sent your only-begotten Son into the world to crush that roaring lion; hasten to our call for help and snatch from ruination and from the clutches of the noonday devil this human being made in your image and likeness. Strike terror, Lord, into the beast now laying waste your vineyard. Fill your servants with courage to fight manfully against that reprobate dragon, lest he despise those who put their trust in you, and say with Pharaoh of old: "I know not God, nor will I set Israel free." Let your mighty hand cast him out of your servant, hondo, so he may no longer hold captive this person whom it pleased you to make in your image, and to redeem through your Son; who lives and reigns with you, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever.

I command you, unclean spirit, whoever you are, along with all your minions now attacking this servant of God, by the mysteries of the incarnation, passion, resurrection, and ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ, by the descent of the Holy Spirit, by the coming of our Lord for judgment, that you tell me by some sign your name, and the day and hour of your departure. I command you, moreover, to obey me to the letter, I who am a minister of God despite my unworthiness; nor shall you be emboldened to harm in any way this creature of God, or the bystanders, or any of their possessions.

God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, I appeal to your holy name, humbly begging your kindness, that you graciously grant me help against this and every unclean spirit now tormenting this creature of yours; through Christ our Lord.

I cast you out, unclean spirit, along with every Satanic power of the enemy, every spectre from hell, and all your fell companions; in the name of our Lord Jesus +Christ. Begone and stay far from this creature of God.+ For it is He who commands you, He who flung you headlong from the heights of heaven into the depths of hell. It is He who commands you, He who once stilled the sea and the wind and the storm. Hearken, therefore, and tremble in fear, Satan, you enemy of the faith, you foe of the human race, you begetter of death, you robber of life, you corrupter of justice, you root of all evil and vice; seducer of men, betrayer of the nations, instigator of envy, font of avarice, fomentor of discord, author of pain and sorrow. Why, then, do you stand and resist, knowing as you must that Christ the Lord brings your plans to nothing? Fear Him, who in Isaac was offered in sacrifice, in Joseph sold into bondage, slain as the paschal lamb, crucified as man, yet triumphed over the powers of hell.

Begone, then, in the name of the Father, + and of the Son, + and of the Holy + Spirit. Give place to the Holy Spirit by this sign of the holy + cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, who lives and reigns with the Father and the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever.

JohnnyD
11-11-2012, 05:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">God, whose nature is ever merciful and forgiving, accept our prayer that this servant of yours, bound by the fetters of sin, may be pardoned by your loving kindness.

Holy Lord, almighty Father, everlasting God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who once and for all consigned that fallen and apostate tyrant to the flames of hell, who sent your only-begotten Son into the world to crush that roaring lion; hasten to our call for help and snatch from ruination and from the clutches of the noonday devil this human being made in your image and likeness. Strike terror, Lord, into the beast now laying waste your vineyard. Fill your servants with courage to fight manfully against that reprobate dragon, lest he despise those who put their trust in you, and say with Pharaoh of old: "I know not God, nor will I set Israel free." Let your mighty hand cast him out of your servant, hondo, so he may no longer hold captive this person whom it pleased you to make in your image, and to redeem through your Son; who lives and reigns with you, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever.

I command you, unclean spirit, whoever you are, along with all your minions now attacking this servant of God, by the mysteries of the incarnation, passion, resurrection, and ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ, by the descent of the Holy Spirit, by the coming of our Lord for judgment, that you tell me by some sign your name, and the day and hour of your departure. I command you, moreover, to obey me to the letter, I who am a minister of God despite my unworthiness; nor shall you be emboldened to harm in any way this creature of God, or the bystanders, or any of their possessions.

God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, I appeal to your holy name, humbly begging your kindness, that you graciously grant me help against this and every unclean spirit now tormenting this creature of yours; through Christ our Lord.

I cast you out, unclean spirit, along with every Satanic power of the enemy, every spectre from hell, and all your fell companions; in the name of our Lord Jesus +Christ. Begone and stay far from this creature of God.+ For it is He who commands you, He who flung you headlong from the heights of heaven into the depths of hell. It is He who commands you, He who once stilled the sea and the wind and the storm. Hearken, therefore, and tremble in fear, Satan, you enemy of the faith, you foe of the human race, you begetter of death, you robber of life, you corrupter of justice, you root of all evil and vice; seducer of men, betrayer of the nations, instigator of envy, font of avarice, fomentor of discord, author of pain and sorrow. Why, then, do you stand and resist, knowing as you must that Christ the Lord brings your plans to nothing? Fear Him, who in Isaac was offered in sacrifice, in Joseph sold into bondage, slain as the paschal lamb, crucified as man, yet triumphed over the powers of hell.

Begone, then, in the name of the Father, + and of the Son, + and of the Holy + Spirit. Give place to the Holy Spirit by this sign of the holy + cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, who lives and reigns with the Father and the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever. </div></div>
AMEN.
You truly are a likeness of his holiness the Dalai Lama.
Thank you LWW.

LWW
11-11-2012, 05:57 PM
Let us pray that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit will expel the demons from brother hondo.

Demon of alcoholism in the name of the Father I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of drug abuse in the name of Jesus I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of deceit in the name of the Holy Spirit I command you to leave brother hondo ...

eg8r
11-11-2012, 08:56 PM
I wish you would not make a mockery of prayer.

eg8r

hondo
11-11-2012, 10:18 PM
He's done this before. He and his alter ego making a mockery of our Lord. His true colors coming out.

hondo
11-11-2012, 10:30 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let us pray that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit will expel the demons from brother hondo.

Demon of alcoholism in the name of the Father I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of drug abuse in the name of Jesus I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of deceit in the name of the Holy Spirit I command you to leave brother hondo ...

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COURT OF APPEALS
PERRY COUNTY, OHIO
FIFTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
STATE OF OHIO : JUDGES:
: Hon. John F. Boggins, P.J.
Plaintiff-Appellee : Hon. John W. Wise, J.
-vs- : Hon., Julie A. Edwards, J.
:
LARRY WILSON II :
:
Defendant-Appellant : CASE NO. 05-CA-5
:
: OPINION
CHARACTER OF PROCEEDING: Appeal from the Perry County Court of Common Pleas Case No. 04-CR-0034
JUDGMENT: AFFIRMED IN PART; REVERSED IN
PART; REMANDED FOR
RE-SENTENCING
DATE OF JUDGMENT ENTRY: NOVEMBER 17, 2005
APPEARANCES:
For Plaintiff-Appellee: For Defendant-Appellant:
JOSEPH A. FLAUTT GERALD T. SUNBURY
Perry County Prosecutor 495 South High Street, Ste. 400
111 North High Street Columbus, OH 43215-5644
P. O. Box 569
New Lexington, OH 43764 RICHARD A. CLINE
580 South High Street, Ste. 200
Columbus, OH 43215-5644
Perry County, Case No. 05-CA-5 2
Boggins, P.J.
{¶1} This is an appeal from jury verdicts in Perry County, Ohio, convicting Appellant of two counts of aggravated vehicular homicide.
STATEMENT OF FACTS OF THE CASE
{¶2} Appellant, on February 28, 2004, was driving in a southerly direction on State Route 13 and his friend, Jason Baron, was operating another vehicle in the same direction. The State charged that both vehicles were traveling at an excessive rate of speed over the 55 M.P.H. posted limit.
{¶3} At the intersection of State Route 13 and Township Road 312, a Neon automobile on the Township road started to cross State Route 13 in a westerly direction. The Neon was required to stop at a stop sign at such intersection before proceeding. It was operated by Jena Snider with Henna Mumford as her passenger.
{¶4} In the southbound lane of State Route 13, the Neon was struck by both Appellant’s vehicle and that of Jason Barron.
{¶5} Both Ms. Snider and Ms. Mumford were killed in the accident.
{¶6} The State alleged that the excessive speed was the cause of the accident and resulting deaths.
{¶7} In addition to Appellant, Jason Barron was also indicted on the same aggravated vehicular homicide charges.
{¶8} Appellant raises four Assignments of Error:
ASSIGNMENTS OF ERROR
{¶9} “1. THE COURT BELOW ERRED WHEN IT PERMITTED THE STATE TO INTRODUCE EVIDENCE FROM SENSING AND DIAGNOSTIC MODULES OVER
Perry County, Case No. 05-CA-5 3
DEFENDANT’S OBJECTION AND WITHOUT SUFFICIENT FOUNDATION TO INDICATE THE RELIABILITY OF THE SCIENTIFIC TESTIMONY, IN VIOLATION OF RULE 702, OHIO RULES OF EVIDENCE. IN THE ALTERNATIVE, TRIAL COUNSEL WAS INEFFECTIVE FOR FAILURE TO OBTAIN THE SERVICES OF AN INDEPENDENT EXPERT TO CHALLENGE THE RELIABILITY OF THE SENSING AND DIAGNOSTIC MODULES AS IT RELATES TO SPEED OF THE VEHICLES. IN EITHER CASE, THE ADMISSION OF THE TESTIMONY DEPRIVED MR. WILSON OF A FAIR TRIAL AND DUE PROCESS OF LAW.
{¶10} “2. THE COURT BELOW ERRED WHEN IT PERMITTED EXPERT TESTIMONY AS TO OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DODGE NEON TO CLEAR THE INTERSECTION PRIOR TO THE ACCIDENT AS THAT TESTIMONY WAS NOT SHOWN TO BE RELIABLE, IN VIOLATION OF RULE 702, OHIO RULES OF EVIDENCE. IN THE ALTERNATIVE, DEFENSE COUNSEL WAS INEFFECTIVE FOR FAILING TO OBJECT TO THIS TESTIMONY. IN EITHER CASE MR. WILSON WAS DEPRIVED OF A FAIR TRIAL AND DUE PROCESS OF LAW.
{¶11} “3. THE COURT BELOW ERRED WHEN IT IMPOSED MORE THAN THE MINIMUM SENTENCE AND CONSECUTIVE SENTENCES IN VIOLATION OF R.C. §§ 2929.14(b), 2929.14(E)(4), and 2929.19(B), BLAKELY V. WASHINGTON, (2004), ---U.S.---, 124 S.Ct. 2531, AND IN VIOLATION OF THE SIXTH AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
{¶12} “4. THE COURT BELOW ERRED WHEN IT FAILED TO PERSONALLY ADDRESS MR. WILSON AT SENTENCING AND AFFORD HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE COURT PRIOR TO SENTENCING.”
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I.
{¶13} The First Assignment challenges the introduction of evidence.
{¶14} The admission or exclusion of relevant evidence rests within the sound discretion of the trial court and that court's ruling as to such matters will not be reversed absent an abuse of discretion. See: Krischbaum v. Dillon (1991), 58 Ohio St.3d 58, 66; Rigby v. Lake Cty. (1991), 58 Ohio St.3d 269, 271. In order to find an abuse of discretion, we must determine the trial court's decision was unreasonable, arbitrary or unconscionable and not merely an error of law or judgment. Blakemore v. Blakemore (1983), 5 Ohio St.3d.
{¶15} Appellant asserts that the admission of the scientific evidence violated Evidence Rule 702.
{¶16} Such Rule provides:
{¶17} “A witness may testify as an expert if all of the following apply:
{¶18} “(A) The witness' testimony either relates to matters beyond the knowledge or experience possessed by lay persons or dispels a misconception common among lay persons;
{¶19} “(B) The witness is qualified as an expert by specialized knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education regarding the subject matter of the testimony;
{¶20} “(C) The witness' testimony is based on reliable scientific, technical, or other specialized information. To the extent that the testimony reports the result of a procedure, test, or experiment, the testimony is reliable only if all of the following apply:
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{¶21} “(1) The theory upon which the procedure, test, or experiment is based is objectively verifiable or is validly derived from widely accepted knowledge, facts, or principles;
{¶22} “(2) The design of the procedure, test, or experiment reliably implements the theory;
{¶23} “(3) The particular procedure, test, or experiment was conducted in a way that will yield an accurate result.”
{¶24} This Court discussed admission of scientific evidence in Abon Ltd v. Transcontinental Insurance Co., Richland App. No. 2004-CA-0029, 2005-Ohio-3052:
{¶25} “An extremely thorough and well researched analysis on the admissibility of scientific evidence in Ohio was conducted by the Fourth District Court of Appeals in Valentine v. Valentine (2001), 158 Ohio App.3d 615, 2004-Ohio-4521, 821 N.E.2d 580, appeal allowed 104 Ohio St.3d 1438, 2004-Ohio-7033, 819 N.E.2d 1122. In Valentine, the court noted: ‘[i]n general, courts should admit expert testimony whenever it is relevant and satisfies Evid.R. 702. State v. Nemeth (1998), 82 Ohio St.3d 202, 207, 694 N.E.2d 1332; see, also, State v. Williams (1983), 4 Ohio St.3d 53, 58, 4 OBR 144, 446 N.E.2d 444. Thus, the trial judge must perform a 'gatekeeping' role to ensure that expert testimony is sufficiently (a) relevant and (b) reliable to justify its submission to the trier of fact. See Kumho Tire, 526 U.S. at 152, 119 S.Ct. 1167, 143 L.Ed.2d 238; Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (1993), 509 U.S. 579, 589, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469; Nemeth, 82 Ohio St.3d at 211, 694 N.E.2d 1332; Douglass, 153 Ohio App.3d 350, 2003-Ohio-4006, 794 N.E.2d 107, at ¶ 32.
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{¶26} "In performing its gatekeeping function, the trial court's starting point should be Evid.R. 702, which provides that a witness may testify as an expert if all of the following apply: '(A) The witness' testimony either relates to matters beyond the knowledge or experience possessed by lay persons or dispels a misconception common among lay persons; (B) The witness is qualified as an expert by specialized knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education regarding the subject matter of the testimony; (C) The witness' testimony is based on reliable, scientific, technical, or other specialized information. To the extent that the testimony reports the result of a procedure, test, or experiment, the testimony is reliable only if all of the following apply: (1) The theory upon which the procedure, test, or experiment is based is objectively verifiable or is validly derived from widely accepted knowledge, facts, or principles; (2) The design of the procedure, test, or experiment reliably implements the theory; (3) The particular procedure, test, or experiment was conducted in a way that will yield an accurate result.'
{¶27} “****The court made it clear in Kumho Tire Co. that the reliability analysis adopted in Daubert for scientific experts also applied to experts with other types of technical or specialized knowledge. But it is critical to realize that the analysis of reliability is flexible and its indicators may vary from discipline to discipline. Daubert, 509 U.S. at 593, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469; see, also, Moore v. Ashland Chem., Inc. (C.A.5 1997), 126 F.3d 679, at 686-688. Thus, the court should proceed in a two-step process that first identifies the indicators of reliability that are appropriate for the discipline involved and then applies them....
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{¶28} "In order to determine reliability, a court must assess whether the reasoning or methodology underlying the testimony is valid. Miller, 80 Ohio St.3d at 611, 687 N.E.2d 735, citing Daubert, 509 U.S. at 592-593, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469. Thus, an expert may not base an opinion upon 'subjective belief or unsupported speculation.' Daubert, 509 U.S. at 590, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469; see, also, State v. Hurst (Mar. 7, 2000), Franklin App. No. 98AP-1549, 2000 WL 249110. Instead, the expert's opinion must be based on methods and procedures that meet the level of intellectual rigor demanded by the relevant discipline. See In re: Paoli (C.A.3, 1994), 35 F.3d 717, 742, citing Daubert, 509 U.S. at 590, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469. The '[p]roposed testimony must be supported by appropriate validation-i.e., 'good grounds,' based on what is known.' Daubert, 509 U.S. at 590, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469. And 'where such testimony's factual basis, data, principles, methods, or their application are called sufficiently into question, * * * the trial judge must determine whether the testimony has a 'reliable basis in the knowledge and experience of [the relevant] discipline.' 'Kumho, 526 U.S. 137, 119 S.Ct. 1167, 143 L.Ed.2d 238, quoting Daubert, 509 U.S. at 592, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469; see, also, Daniel J. Capra, The Daubert Puzzle (1998) 32 Ga.L.Rev. 699, 705 ('In deciding the question of admissibility, trial judges must consider the degree to which the accuracy of scientific information has been established. The less certain the scientific community is about information, the less willing courts should be to receive it'). In other words, '[s]cientific evidence and expert testimony must have a traceable, analytical basis in objective fact before it may be considered on summary judgment.' Bragdon v. Abbott (1998), 524 U.S. 624, 653, 118 S.Ct. 2196, 141 L.Ed.2d 540; see, also, Gen. Elec. Co. v. Joiner (1997), 522 U.S.
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136, 144- 146, 118 S.Ct. 512, 139 L.Ed.2d 508. However, [t]he grounds for the expert's opinion merely have to be good [;] they do not have to be perfect. Paoli, 35 F.3d at 744.
{¶29} "A court resolving a reliability question should consider the 'principles and methods' the expert used 'in reaching his or her conclusions, rather than trying to determine whether the conclusions themselves are correct or credible.' Nemeth, 82 Ohio St.3d at 210, 694 N.E.2d 1332; see, also, Miller, 80 Ohio St.3d 607, 687 N.E.2d 735, paragraph one of the syllabus. As the Daubert court stated, in assessing reliability, ‘[t]he focus * * * must [generally] be * * * on principles and methodology, not on the conclusions that they generate.' Daubert, 509 U.S. at 595, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469.
{¶30} “An appellate court should apply an abuse of discretion standard in reviewing a court's decision to admit or exclude expert testimony under Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc., 509 U.S. 579, 113 S.Ct. 2786, 125 L.Ed.2d 469 (1993). Gen. Elec. Co. v. Joiner (1997), 522 U.S. 136, 144- 146, 118 S.Ct. 512, 139 L.Ed.2d 508.”
{¶31} In order to find an abuse of discretion, we must determine that the trial court=s decision was unreasonable, arbitrary or unconscionable and not merely an error of law or judgment. Blakemore v. Blakemore (1983), 5 Ohio St.3d 217. We must look at the totality of the circumstances in the case sub judice and determine whether the trial court acted unreasonably, arbitrarily or unconscionably.
{¶32} The Ohio Supreme Court addressed the admissibility of expert testimony in two decisions rendered in 1998. These are Miller v. Bike Athletic Company (1998), 80 Ohio St.3d 607 and State v. Nemeth (1998), 82 Ohio St. 3d 202.
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{¶33} In Miller, it stated:
{¶34} “Expert testimony is not necessarily inadmissible because methodology used has not been generally accepted by scientific community or has not been subjected to peer review; rather, those are just factors for court to consider in determining reliability. (Per Sweeney, Sr., J., with two Justices concurring and one Justice concurring in result.) Rules of Evid. Rule 702.
{¶35} “****Trial court's role in determining whether expert's testimony is admissible focuses on whether opinion is based upon scientifically valid principles, not whether expert's conclusions are correct or whether testimony satisfies proponent's burden of proof at trial. Rules of Evid. Rule 702(C).
{¶36} “Reliability requirement of Daubert for admissibility of expert testimony should not be used to exclude all evidence of questionable reliability, nor should court exclude such evidence simply because evidence is confusing; instead, there must be something that makes the scientific technique particularly overwhelming to laypersons for the court to exclude such evidence. (Per Sweeney, Sr., J., with two Justices concurring and one Justice concurring in result.) Rules of Evid. Rule 702(C).
{¶37} In State v. Nemeth, it held:
{¶38} “Scientific opinions need not enjoy general acceptance in the relevant scientific community in order to satisfy the reliability requirement of the rule governing the admissibility of expert testimony. Rules of Evid. Rule 702.
{¶39} “There need not be any agreement in the scientific community regarding the expert's actual opinion or conclusion for expert testimony to satisfy the rule governing the admissibility of expert testimony. Rules of Evid. Rule 702.
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{¶40} In addressing this First Assignment of Error, we note that the expert for the State testified as to the speed of Barron’s vehicle prior to the crash from the internal vehicle modules but not as to that of Appellant due to the lack of current modules, only as to rate of deceleration of 38 M.P.H. immediately prior to the crash. (Tr. 273-276).
{¶41} The court conducted voir dire of such expert out of the presence of the jury prior to his testimony.
{¶42} Counsel for Appellant, at the close of such voir dire, while not objecting to the qualifications of the expert objected to the introduction of testimony due to lack of foundation of the reliability of the modules.
{¶43} He did not renew his objection during or at the end of such testimony and did not object to the introduction of the expert’s reports.
{¶44} Counsel for Barron did not object either to the testimony or report introduction.
{¶45} The court overruled Appellant’s objection as it was premised on the fact that not all vehicle manufacturers do not provide the capability to law enforcement to interpret the modules, and therefore, the module interpretation is not industry wide.
{¶46} We disagree with Appellant’s contention in the First Assignment in that the lack of industry wide policy of law enforcement cooperation does not reflect the capability or accuracy of the modules.
{¶47} Further by lack of objection to trial testimony, lack of motion to strike and introduction of the expert’s reports, a waiver occurred.
{¶48} We note that appellant failed to object to Officer Veppert’s testimony during trial. Under Evid.R. 103(A), error may not be predicated upon a ruling which
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admits evidence unless "a timely objection or motion to strike appears of record stating the specific ground of objection [.]" "An enduring principle of appellate review is that a party waives an error that it fails to preserve through an objection at trial." State v. Aldridge (1997), 120 Ohio App.3d 122, 154, 697 N.E.2d 228. Thus, appellant has waived this error on appeal.
{¶49} Assuming arguendo that appellant had stated a proper objection and preserved this issue for appeal, it is clear that Officer Veppert's testimony was reliable and properly admitted. A trial court's ruling as to the admission or exclusion of expert testimony is within its broad discretion and will not be disturbed absent an abuse of that discretion. State v. Tomlin (1992), 63 Ohio St.3d 724, 728, 590 N.E.2d 1253. An abuse of discretion is more than an error of law or judgment; rather, it implies that the trial court's attitude is unreasonable, arbitrary or unconscionable. State v. Bresson (1990), 51 Ohio St.3d 123, 129, 554 N.E.2d 1330.
{¶50} As stated previously, Evid.R. 702 governs the admissibility of expert witness testimony, to wit:
{¶51} "A witness may testify as an expert if all of the following apply:
{¶52} "(A) The witness' testimony either relates to matters beyond the knowledge or experience possessed by lay persons or dispels a misconception common among lay persons;
{¶53} "(B) The witness is qualified as an expert by specialized knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education regarding the subject matter of the testimony;
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{¶54} "(C) The witness' testimony is based on reliable scientific, technical, or other specialized information. To the extent that the testimony reports the result of a procedure, test, or experiment, the testimony is reliable only if all of the following apply:
{¶55} "(1) The theory upon which the procedure, test, or experiment is based is objectively verifiable or is validly derived from widely accepted knowledge, facts, or principles;
{¶56} "(2) The design of the procedure, test, or experiment reliably implements the theory;
{¶57} "(3) The particular procedure, test, or experiment was conducted in a way that will yield an accurate result.
{¶58} Officer Veppert’s testimony clearly established his qualifications as an expert in the field of in-vehicle modules. In fact, no objection was made as to his qualifications. Also, as to reliability of the modules, he had subjected them to testing by vehicle crashes.
{¶59} In Miller v. Bike Athletic Co. (1998), 80 Ohio St.3d 607, 611, 687 N.E.2d 735, the Supreme Court of Ohio adopted the following four reliability factors first articulated in Daubert: (1) whether the theory or technique has been tested; (2) whether it has been subjected to peer review; (3) whether there is a known or potential rate of error; and (4) whether the methodology has gained general acceptance. See, also, Daubert at 593-594.
{¶60} Although the following factors were determined to be useful in testing a theory or a procedure's reliability, the reliability requirement of Evid.R. 702(C) is a "threshold determination," focusing on the scientific evidence and its underlying
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principles, not on the accuracy of the ultimate conclusions. Daubert at 595; Miller at 611-612, 687 N.E.2d 735. "[T]he reliability requirement of Daubert should not be used to exclude all evidence of questionable reliability, nor should a court exclude such evidence simply because the evidence is confusing." Miller at 614, 687 N.E.2d 735. Instead, the " 'ultimate touchstone is helpfulness to the trier of fact, and with regard to reliability, helpfulness turns on whether the expert's "technique or principle [is] sufficiently reliable so that it will aid the jury in reaching accurate results." " ' Id., quoting DeLuca v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (C.A.3, 1990), 911 F.2d 941, 956, quoting 3 Weinstein's Evidence (1988) 702-35, Section 702[3].
{¶61} The second aspect of the First Assignment reflects incompetency of counsel.
{¶62} The standard of review of an ineffective assistance of counsel claim is well-established. Pursuant to Strickland v. Washington (1984), 466 U.S. 668, 687, 104 S.Ct. 2052, 2064, 80 L.Ed.2d 674, 673, in order to prevail on such a claim, the appellant must demonstrate both (1) deficient performance, and (2) resulting prejudice, i.e., errors on the part of counsel of a nature so serious that there exists a reasonable probability that, in the absence of those errors, the result of the trial court would have been different. State v. Bradley (1989), 42 Ohio St.3d 136, 538 N.E.2d 373; State v. Combs, supra.
{¶63} In determining whether counsel=s representation fell below an objective standard of reasonableness, judicial scrutiny of counsel=s performance must be highly deferential. Bradley, 42 Ohio St.3d at 142. Because of the difficulties inherent in determining whether effective assistance of counsel was rendered in any given case, a
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strong presumption exists that counsel=s conduct fell within the wide range of reasonable, professional assistance. Id.
{¶64} In order to warrant a reversal, the appellant must additionally show he was prejudiced by counsel=s ineffectiveness. This requires a showing that there is a reasonable probability that but for counsel=s unprofessional errors, the result of the proceeding would have been different. Bradley, supra at syllabus paragraph three. A reasonable probability is a probability sufficient to undermine confidence in the outcome. Id. It is with this framework in mind that we address the alleged ineffectiveness of counsel raised by appellant in the instant case.
{¶65} We find that the severity of the impact clearly indicates that trial strategy could have played a part in the choice by trial counsel to avoid the attempt to discredit the reliability of the module. As to Appellant, as opposed to Mr. Barron, speed was not testified to by the expert but reduction of speed.
{¶66} We fail to find inadequacy of representation or that Appellant was prejudiced as excess speed prior to the crash was presented by Mr. Post, Appellant’s passenger.
{¶67} The First Assignment, in both aspects, is denied.
II.
{¶68} As to the Second Assignment of Error, those aspects discussed under our opinion as to the First Assignment such as foundation and admissibility of expert opinion, waiver and competency of counsel are also applicable to this Assignment and shall not be repeated.
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{¶69} It should be noted that Trooper King made each of his calculations without having access to the module information but from personal view of the vehicles and measurements. (Tr. 425). Appellant objects to the fact that his results were based upon assumptions of fact but such opinions were based upon these calculations, measurements, his training and experience. Since the testimony of experts is almost always based upon assumptions, we must reject such objection.
{¶70} As to the validity of such opinions, the trier of fact has the principal responsibility for determining the credibility of the witnesses and the relative weight attributable to their testimony. State v. Jamison (1990), 40 Ohio St.3d 182, certiorari denied (1990), 498 U.S. 881.
{¶71} The jury could, in evaluating such opinions in deliberation also consider the fact that excess speed and location of the Wilson and Barron vehicles was corroborated by Mr. Post, a passenger and owner of the Appellant’s vehicle.
{¶72} Again as to competency of counsel, we fail to see that the lack of objections would have changed the result of the trial and may have had an adverse effect, considering the devastating impact and speed.
{¶73} The Second Assignment is overruled.
III.
{¶74} The Third Assignment of Error questions the lack of imposition of the minimum consecutive sentences.
{¶75} First, we have rejected the application of Blakely Vs. Washington, (2004), 542 U.S. 296, 124 S.Ct. 2531 previously as the sentences were within the statutory range and not enhanced.
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{¶76} We further find that the court made on the record sufficient findings as required by State v. Comer (2003), 99 Ohio St.3d 463. (Tr. 23-24 of sentencing transcript). The reasoning of the court is not required. State v. Edmonson (1999), 86 Ohio St.3d 324.
{¶77} Therefore, the Third Assignment is rejected.
IV.
{¶78} The Fourth Assignment questions the lack of statements by Appellant.
{¶79} Criminal Rule 32(A) provides:
{¶80} “A) Imposition of sentence. Sentence shall be imposed without unnecessary delay. Pending sentence, the court may commit the defendant or continue or alter the bail. At the time of imposing sentence, the court shall do all of the following:
{¶81} “(1) Afford counsel an opportunity to speak on behalf of the defendant and address the defendant personally and ask if he or she wishes to make a statement in his or her own behalf or present any information in mitigation of punishment.
{¶82} “(2) Afford the prosecuting attorney an opportunity to speak;
{¶83} “(3) Afford the victim the rights provided by law;
{¶84} “(4) In serious offenses, state its statutory findings and give reasons supporting those findings, if appropriate.“
{¶85} R.C. 2929.29(A)(1) states:
{¶86} “The court shall hold a sentencing hearing before imposing a sentence under this chapter upon an offender who was convicted of or pleaded guilty to a felony and before resentencing an offender who was convicted of or pleaded guilty to a felony and whose case was remanded pursuant to section 2953.07 or 2953.08 of the Revised
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Code. At the hearing, the offender, the prosecuting attorney, the victim or the victim's representative in accordance with section 2930.14 of the Revised Code, and, with the approval of the court, any other person may present information relevant to the imposition of sentence in the case. The court shall inform the offender of the verdict of the jury or finding of the court and ask the offender whether the offender has anything to say as to why sentence should not be imposed upon the offender.”
{¶87} We agree with Appellee that Appellant, if asked, may not have added to the statements on his behalf by the witnesses and his counsel.
{¶88} However, the above Criminal Rule 32(A) and R.C. §2929.29 required the court to inquire of Appellant personally as to any statements he personally wished to make. See also, State v. Campbell (2000), 90 Ohio St.3d 320.
{¶89} Therefore, we sustain this Fourth Assignment and remand this cause for re-sentencing in accordance herewith.
{¶90} Costs to Appellant.
By: Boggins, P.J.
Wise, J. and
Edwards, J. concur
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JUDGES
COURT OF APPEALS
PERRY COUNTY, OHIO
FIFTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
STATE OF OHIO :
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Plaintiff-Appellee : CASE NO. 05-CA-5
-vs- :
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LARRY WILSON II
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Defendant-Appellant : JUDGMENT ENTRY
For the reasons stated in the Memorandum-Opinion on file, the judgment of the Perry County Court of Common Pleas, General Division, is affirmed in part, reversed in part and remanded for re-sentencing.
Costs to Appellant.
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JUDGES

hondo
11-11-2012, 10:32 PM
But God is the ultimate judge. Right, larry wilson?
Whoever that larry wilson is, he will have to answer to a Higher Court.

hondo
11-11-2012, 10:33 PM
Still belong to that fast car forum you used to post on, larry?

LWW
11-12-2012, 03:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish you would not make a mockery of prayer.

eg8r </div></div>

I am not ... hondo is in desperate need of prayer.

LWW
11-12-2012, 03:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But God is the ultimate judge. Right, larry wilson?
Whoever that larry wilson is, he will have to answer to a Higher Court. </div></div>

Yes He is ... and my salvation is paid for.

hondo
11-12-2012, 06:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish you would not make a mockery of prayer.

eg8r </div></div>

I am not ... hondo is in desperate need of prayer. </div></div>

We all need each other's prayers. Also, the families of Jena Snyder and Henna Mumford, wouldn't you agree?

hondo
11-12-2012, 07:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But God is the ultimate judge. Right, larry wilson?
Whoever that larry wilson is, he will have to answer to a Higher Court. </div></div>

Yes He is ... and my salvation is paid for. </div></div>

I wouldn't be so sure if I were you, larry wilson. You have caused a lot of pain on this forum. Prying into Gayle's life, threatening to talk to her yacht club if she didn't behave.
Twisting everything I ever said or did years ago as if it was yesterday. Creating this character johnny to accuse me of child molestation and then agreeing with everything your alter ego said.
Then bragging that your salvation is paid for?
God does look at our works, larry wilson.
I'm sure you'll dig up past posts of mine to "prove" that I'm worse. That's the way you roll. But look at the dates.
You better start praying for yourself.

LWW
11-12-2012, 09:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He's done this before. He and his alter ego making a mockery of our Lord. His true colors coming out. </div></div>

Are you actually denying God's dominion over satnic entities?

eg8r
11-12-2012, 09:27 AM
What you are doing, the way you are going about it is absolutely making it a mockery of prayer. If you were doing this on your own in your own prayers it would make sense but doing it out in public in this forum the way you have gone about it is not doing any good for anyone especially for those who are non-believers and watching what you are doing.

eg8r

hondo
11-12-2012, 02:27 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let us pray that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit will expel the demons from brother hondo.

Demon of alcoholism in the name of the Father I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of drug abuse in the name of Jesus I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of deceit in the name of the Holy Spirit I command you to leave brother hondo ...

</div></div>

Come on, Q. Tell me how "just Hondo" is trashing every thread.
Either that or join the Dolly Llama ( as johnny calls larry)and pray for me.

JohnnyD
11-12-2012, 04:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I received a PM this evening from johnny d's rabbi,
Morris Sevowitz.
The rabbi informed me that our johnny suffers from severe
delirium tremors from years of alcohol abuse and only attends synogogue sporadically.
Then mainly to bum money to buy Glenfiddich.
I guess his wife left him 5 years ago and apparently he has rarely held a job.

The rabbi said he is a kindly soul who never graduated from high school and has been on public assistance for some time.

I was reluctant to post this because the PM seemed a little suspicious to me and I cannot verify its authenticity.

I am only posting this because it had an air of truth to it.
If I have been the victim of a cruel hoax, it's not funny to
dis-credit a fine gentleman like johnny who seems to only have others' business at heart. </div></div>
hondo here YOU are spreading lies AGAIN.All of your posts are filled with hate towards others.
We all pray for you.

hondo
11-12-2012, 05:36 PM
Come on, Q. Tell me how "just Hondo" is trashing every thread.

LWW
11-13-2012, 03:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let us pray that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit will expel the demons from brother hondo.

Demon of alcoholism in the name of the Father I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of drug abuse in the name of Jesus I command you to leave brother hondo ...

Demon of deceit in the name of the Holy Spirit I command you to leave brother hondo ...

</div></div>

Come on, Q. Tell me how "just Hondo" is trashing every thread.
Either that or join the Dolly Llama ( as johnny calls larry)and pray for me. </div></div>

It's Dalai Lama.

LWW
11-13-2012, 03:53 AM
The demons are strong JohnnyD ... but their grip on brother hondo is slipping, he is so hearly free that e is requesting broter Q to also pray for him.