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Gayle in MD
03-09-2011, 12:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The CDC's report in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, which provides more specific, detailed information about who has diabetes and where they live, "allows us to identify areas where the need is greatest and where we can direct our attention and efforts to prevent and control diabetes," explained Barker.

The analysis brought a clear pattern to light: 15 different states had at least some pockets with especially high rates of diabetes, according to Reuters. Those states include Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia and all of Mississippi.

People living in that swath of the country were more likely to be obese and lead an inactive lifestyle than those from other parts of the U.S., the study showed. Those factors contributed to nearly a third of the difference in diabetes rates within the diabetes belt versus outside it, according to Reuters.

There were also more residents who were African American and over 65, both risk factors for the disease. But even younger, thinner Southeasterners had a higher chance of diabetes than those who lived elsewhere.

"We suspect there are cultural factors that are very hard to measure -- for example, traditional diet [or] attitudes toward seeking medical care," Barker said.

High diabetes risk showed up in isolated counties in other states, but the problem wasn't as widespread in those areas, so the CDC didn't include them.

The yearly cost of treatment is estimated at more than $100 billion. Diabetes sufferers are also more prone to other health problems like kidney and heart disease and certain types of cancer.

The diabetes belt has many states and counties in common with the previously classified stroke belt and heart failure belt, Reuters said.
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JohnnyD
03-09-2011, 12:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The CDC's report in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, which provides more specific, detailed information about who has diabetes and where they live, "allows us to identify areas where the need is greatest and where we can direct our attention and efforts to prevent and control diabetes," explained Barker.

The analysis brought a clear pattern to light: 15 different states had at least some pockets with especially high rates of diabetes, according to Reuters. Those states include Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia and all of Mississippi.

People living in that swath of the country were more likely to be obese and lead an inactive lifestyle than those from other parts of the U.S., the study showed. Those factors contributed to nearly a third of the difference in diabetes rates within the diabetes belt versus outside it, according to Reuters.

There were also more residents who were African American and over 65, both risk factors for the disease. But even younger, thinner Southeasterners had a higher chance of diabetes than those who lived elsewhere.

"We suspect there are cultural factors that are very hard to measure -- for example, traditional diet [or] attitudes toward seeking medical care," Barker said.

High diabetes risk showed up in isolated counties in other states, but the problem wasn't as widespread in those areas, so the CDC didn't include them.

The yearly cost of treatment is estimated at more than $100 billion. Diabetes sufferers are also more prone to other health problems like kidney and heart disease and certain types of cancer.

The diabetes belt has many states and counties in common with the previously classified stroke belt and heart failure belt, Reuters said.
</div></div> </div></div>Is that all you do is cut and paste? Speak the truth for once.The truth will set you free.

LWW
03-09-2011, 04:35 AM
Original thought is frowned upon by the regime.

pooltchr
03-09-2011, 07:20 AM
She has proven time and time again that she hates all southerners, nearly as much as she hates all Republicans. She lives to search the internet for anything negative about all the groups of people she despises, and then shares her findings here.

Truely a pittiful bitter old woman. Somebody must have licked all the candy off her apple when she was a child.

Steve

Sev
03-09-2011, 07:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She has proven time and time again that she hates all southerners, nearly as much as she hates all Republicans. She lives to search the internet for anything negative about all the groups of people she despises, and then shares her findings here.

Truely a pittiful bitter old woman. Somebody must have licked all the candy off her apple when she was a child.

Steve </div></div>

I seem to recall her elitist attitude and superior diet didnt save her from cancer.

LWW
03-09-2011, 10:55 AM
It appears that she was trying to send code for West Virginians being a bunch of fast arsed hillbillies?

Such insinuations are beneath this forum.

Stretch
03-09-2011, 01:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She has proven time and time again that she hates all southerners, nearly as much as she hates all Republicans. She lives to search the internet for anything negative about all the groups of people she despises, and then shares her findings here.

Truely a pittiful bitter old woman. Somebody must have licked all the candy off her apple when she was a child.

Steve </div></div>

I seem to recall her elitist attitude and superior diet didnt save her from cancer. </div></div>

Who are the trolls?? St.

ugotda7
03-09-2011, 01:34 PM
POS...................

sack316
03-09-2011, 04:45 PM
and yet the cost statistics, and figures on spending by state providers shows costs in the "diabetes belt" being on par or better than our northeast counterparts. And the per capita costs/spending of the south is right on par with anywhere else in the country (generally middle of the pack, some exceptions either way. Southwest is best in this category... northwest and southeast are about equal, and northeast is the worst in cost per capita).

So while this article certainly presents an need for more attention to be paid to the south's dietary and activity habits... it shows no direct correlation to health costs as the thread title indicates. Being that health insurance and such is "in state" only, were the region mentioned in the article a culprit of "running up health costs" then the region would also be the highest cost region (as it is the worst health region). Of note: I used per capita statistics in order to factor out population differences.

Sack

pooltchr
03-09-2011, 04:56 PM
There you go bringing up more pesky little facts again. You really know how to kill a fantasy, don't you!!

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Steve

Gayle in MD
03-09-2011, 11:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sack316</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and yet the cost statistics, and figures on spending by state providers shows costs in the "diabetes belt" being on par or better than our northeast counterparts. And the per capita costs/spending of the south is right on par with anywhere else in the country (generally middle of the pack, some exceptions either way. Southwest is best in this category... northwest and southeast are about equal, and northeast is the worst in cost per capita).

So while this article certainly presents an need for more attention to be paid to the south's dietary and activity habits... it shows no direct correlation to health costs as the thread title indicates. Being that health insurance and such is "in state" only, were the region mentioned in the article a culprit of "running up health costs" then the region would also be the highest cost region (as it is the worst health region). Of note: I used per capita statistics in order to factor out population differences.

Sack </div></div>


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"We suspect there are cultural factors that are very hard to measure -- for example, traditional diet [or] <span style='font-size: 11pt'>attitudes toward seeking medical care,"</span> Barker said.

<span style="color: #660000"> <span style="color: #660000"> [b] <span style='font-size: 14pt'>If they don't seek medical help for their diabetes, then obviously, some of the medical cost shows up as some other medical event, eventually.

Hence, comparing percapita, the cost, how many of the resulting medical events and diseases did you include in your study, and where is it?

Also, as I am sure you know, some of the very best, AND MOST EXPENSIVE hospitals and medical centers are in the located in the East, and North East Region, and these are the ones which billionaires flock to, from other countries, and from far away states, paying the highest costs for their treatment. I'm wondering, how you factored that in, ah' hem, per capita, that is?[/</span>b] </span> </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif


The yearly cost of treatment is estimated at more than $100 billion. Diabetes sufferers are also more prone to other health problems like kidney and heart disease and certain types of cancer.

The diabetes belt has many states and counties in common with the previously classified stroke belt and heart failure belt, Reuters said.

Also, I'm still wondering how your friend, living in Florida, drives from the Tampa Bay area, Rt 4, all the way to the East Coast of Florida, Daytona Beach, in an hour, when the average back up time can be as much as four hours, and is, most days?
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ugotda7
03-09-2011, 11:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">POS................... </div></div>

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JohnnyD
03-09-2011, 11:48 PM
STOLEN VALOR ACT

pooltchr
03-10-2011, 07:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Also, as I am sure you know, some of the very best, AND MOST EXPENSIVE hospitals and medical centers are in the located in the East, and North East Region, </div></div>

I guess you would be talking about hospitals like Duke Medical Center in North Carolina, or M D Anderson (One of the highest rated cancer treatment hospitals in the world) in Houston?

Your stereotypical assumptions once again illuminate your bias.

Steve

Gayle in MD
03-10-2011, 08:39 AM
Oh, and BTW, the Diabetees Belt, or Bible Belt, is also the Divorce Belt. Gee, how do we explain that, I wonder?

G.

Sev
03-10-2011, 09:13 AM
Suddenly you care about marriage???

LWW
03-10-2011, 05:43 PM
Why hasn't Gee apologized for insinuating aithch was a fat hillbilly?

If she had, he might have taught her how to spell D-I-A-B-E-T-E-S.

ugotda7
03-10-2011, 05:52 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh, and BTW, the Diabetees Belt, or Bible Belt, is also the Divorce Belt. Gee, how do we explain that, I wonder?

G. </div></div>

PO........................?

LWW
03-10-2011, 06:59 PM
OH MY!

sack316
03-10-2011, 10:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Also, as I am sure you know, some of the very best, AND MOST EXPENSIVE hospitals and medical centers are in the located in the East, and North East Region, </div></div>

I guess you would be talking about hospitals like Duke Medical Center in North Carolina, or M D Anderson (One of the highest rated cancer treatment hospitals in the world) in Houston?

Your stereotypical assumptions once again illuminate your bias.

Steve </div></div>

Yeah but she is also actually right. Most journals that rank hospitals rate many in the northeast at the top regularly. Also as she said, they are the most expensive up there. Unfortunately that would contradict the premise of this thread. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif

Of course, if one would want to take the claim made originally in this thread as being valid... then that person would also have to blame African Americans for running up health costs due to their proclivity to diabetes and sickle cell. But somehow I doubt such a claim would be made, regardless of its identical premise.

Sack

LWW
03-11-2011, 04:40 AM
What's really amazing is that what Gee is really pointing out is that people who are most likely to be dependent on gubmint health care are the least healthy.