View Full Version : Bravo! WI Dems Winning Battle,WalkerBackingDown
Gayle in MD
03-09-2011, 12:39 AM
Must be the numbers flooding in to recall the Gov, and the Repigs.
E-mails and statements show the "No Negotiations!" GOv., Is negotiating!
This Grass Roots Campaign, can't be stopped, no matter how many Astroturf thugs the Koch Brothers bus into the towns of WI!
Bravo Democatic Representatives and voters!!!! The Shock Doctrine has failed, because Democratic Representatiives were smart, and determined, and Wisconsins never faltered.
A great defeat for the dictator governor, who sought to destroy fifty years of collective bargaining rights, on budget lies.
Next? Florida and Michigan! Two completely corrupt Governors!
03-09-2011, 07:11 AM
You complained when he stood his ground.
Now you're complaining because he is compromising.
Are you ever happy?
Not much of a compromise. Only 2 points the rest of the bill still stands. However the compromised can still come off the table since the Dems still refuse to return.
I still think he should use the nuclear option and move on.
Also there is the voter ID they have not voted on.
The longer the Dems stay away the less they represent the great portion of their constituents.
So after condemning Walker for not compromising with uncompromising democrooks, she know condemns him for trying to compromise with uncompromising democrooks?
Such illogic is not typical of one seeking truth.
It comes from running in circles all day.
Gayle in MD
03-09-2011, 11:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott Walker Proposes Union Compromise In E-Mails
MADISON, Wis. — Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has offered to keep certain collective bargaining rights in place for state workers in a proposed compromise aimed at ending a nearly three-week standoff with absent Senate Democrats, according to e-mails released Tuesday by his office.
The e-mails, some dated as recently as Sunday, show a softened stance in Walker's talks with the 14 Democrats who fled to Illinois to block a vote on his original proposal that would strip nearly all collective bargaining rights for public workers and force concessions amounting to an average 8 percent pay cut.
Under the compromise floated by Walker and detailed in the e-mails, workers would be able to continue bargaining over their salaries with no limit, a change from his original plan that banned negotiated salary increases beyond inflation. He also proposed compromises allowing collective bargaining to stay in place on mandatory overtime, performance bonuses, hazardous duty pay and classroom size for teachers.
Increased contributions for health insurance and pension, projected to save the state $330 million by mid-2013, would remain. The unions and Democrats have agreed to those concessions to help balance a projected $3.6 billion budget shortfall.
Sen. Bob Jauch, one of the 14 AWOL Democrats, said he hoped the compromise would serve as a blueprint for future negotiations. But he and Sen. Tim Cullen, who were both working with Walker's administration, said the latest offer was inadequate.
The e-mails show that Jauch had wanted even more items to be subject to bargaining that Walker seeks to eliminate, including sick leave and vacation pay.
"I consider the lines of communication still open," Cullen said Tuesday. "Whether there's going to be any communicating, remains to be seen. These things ebb and flow."
Walker has repeatedly said that he would not budge on the key parts of the bill that's been stymied in the Senate after Democrats left 19 days ago. Since then, the pressure to deal has increased as protests reached as large as 80,000 people, polls show the public want a compromise and recall efforts were launched against 16 senators, including eight Republicans.
Some of the items in Walker's compromise plan could only be bargained if both sides agree to take them up. Workplace safety would be subjected to bargaining regardless.
Walker also proposed allowing collective bargaining agreements to last up to two years, instead of the one-year limit in his original proposal. Unions would only have to vote to remain in existence every three years, instead of annually as Walker initially proposed.
Additionally, University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics Authority employees would not lose all union bargaining rights and the Legislature's budget committee would have to vote to approve any changes to Medicaid programs sought by Walker's administration. Under the original bill, the Department of Health Services could make cuts and other changes to programs benefiting the poor, elderly and disabled without requiring a hearing or vote by the legislative committee.
Senate Republicans spent hours going over the compromise plan Tuesday morning in a closed-door meeting, Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said. He acknowledged that pressure was increasing on the senators, saying the recall efforts launched against eight Republicans was "on everybody's minds."
"Everybody's obviously receiving a lot of pressure," Fitzgerald said. "I had people on my front porch before I left this morning."
He didn't say whether Senate Republicans agreed with the concessions Walker proposed on Sunday said support for the underlying bill remained strong.
"We're rock solid, we're fine," he said.
</div></div> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif Yeah, right.
The Governor said no cocmpormise, all along.
Democratics stood their ground.
The brave and determined Middle Class, worker of Wisconsin, stood their ground, as protests increased, and continued.
Video's of Walker's Thugs, attacking a Democratic Representative, went viral.
Walker started out refusing to compromise, threw the Wisconsin citizens out of the state house, took over the offices of the Democratic Representatives, harrassed their families, and slandered the public workers.
Now, the country has see the preview of the Republican governors intended assault on the Amerrican workers, the Middle Class of our country, as they have been demonized by FUX NOISE, relentlessly!
WALKER LOSES! DEMS WIN! THE MIDDLE CLASS WINS! AMERICA WINS!
Polls ALL show support is behind the unions! Wisconsins ae against Walker by 65 to 70 percent, which means, AGAINST REPIGLICAN POLICIES!
Somebody give the old girl a Valium she's going over the edge.
Although the democrooks did in fact stand firm ... they did it in the state they fled to like cowards.
03-09-2011, 12:30 PM
Looks like Idaho is going down the same path...
Something new for her to raise her blood pressure about!
She wont even look at it.
03-09-2011, 01:35 PM
Walker pulling the trigger on the Nuclear option!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She wont even look at it.
Yes she will.
03-10-2011, 07:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She wont even look at it.
Yes she will. </div></div>
She just won't admit that she looked at it!
Has anyone heard how that whole "WALKER BACKING DOWN!" thingie worked out?
03-10-2011, 06:15 PM
I'm sure that she would prefer that this thread title would just drop off the front page of the forum. I suspect it's embarassing to see it staring her in the face every time she opens the page.
03-10-2011, 06:22 PM
So just how is it working out?
That's a good reason to keep it near the top.
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