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Gayle in MD
03-14-2011, 03:56 PM
<span style='font-size: 14pt'> Thanks Walker! </span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 11pt'><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Wisconsin Democrats Say Down but Not Out in Union Fight</span>
By REUTERS
Published: March 13, 2011 at 5:57 PM ET


MADISON, Wis (Reuters) - Scott Walker, Wisconsin's newly elected Republican governor, won his battle last week to get the curbs he backed on public-sector unions approved by the state legislature and signed into law.



But the Democratic Party and organized labor, which opposed the bill, show signs of being energized by the setback, which up-ends more than 50 years of collective bargaining by nurses, highway workers, nurses and other Wisconsin public employees.

Mark Pocan, a Democratic member of the Assembly who opposed the Walker bill, told protesters this week: "They may have won the battle, but I guarantee you they've lost the war."

With Republican majorities in both the state Assembly and the Senate making a legislative counter-attack impossible, Democrats and their allies are focusing their hopes on a number of fronts, including eventually a recall campaign for Walker.

"Rock on, keep the faith and don't worry," said one protester, Amy Barlow Liberatore. "Recalls are coming."

Under Wisconsin state law, however, Walker's foes can't even circulate a petition to recall him until January 3, 2012, his one-year anniversary in office.

But a group called United Wisconsin has set up a website (http://www.unitedwisconsin.com/) it says already has 149,000 voters pledge to sign the recall petitions next year. More than 540,000 signatures will be necessary to launch a recall.

As many as 100,000 people protested at the Wisconsin State Capitol on Saturday against the new curbs on public worker unions, and they greeted as returning heroes 14 Democratic lawmakers who had fled the state to stall the measure.

About 70,000 protesters had massed a week earlier, before a legislative maneuver by Republicans in the senate hived off the controversial union measure from a budget bill and pushed it through without a single Democrat present.
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"You do not understand," Assembly minority leader Pete Barca told the giant rally on Saturday, addressing Governor Walker. "Rights die hard in America." </span>

Wisconsin was birthplace for some of the first U.S. unions among foundry, shoe and paper workers in the 19th century. It was the first state to pass worker compensation protections in 1911, unemployment compensation in 1932, and public employee collective bargaining rights in 1959, according to the Wisconsin Labor History Society.

The new law, by contrast, strips public sector unions of collective bargaining rights except for wages, with increases limited to the level of inflation. Pay rises above inflation have to be put to a referendum of voters. Unions have to be recertified by annual votes of members and dues collected privately. Health insurance and pension contributions rise.

LAWSUITS, HIGH-COURT RACE ALSO TARGETED

Wisconsin in the last month became the focal point of a national debate over how to restore the finances of U.S. states and local governments struggling under a mountain of debt.

Unions -- a key source of funding for Democrats -- fear the Wisconsin law will bolster Republicans in other states to cut spending by targeting public workers. Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Florida and Iowa have similar legislative moves pending.

So while the Wisconsin one-year rule blocks immediate recall efforts against Walker and Republican legislators elected last November, Wisconsin Democrats and their allies are moving on multiple fronts in other ways.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>"I have never, never, never seen anything like this," said Scott Becher, a former Republican legislative aide who now runs a political consulting and public relations firm outside the capital. "Democrats have never been more energized." </span>


Democrats are circulating petitions to recall 8 Republican state senators who approved the controversial measure.

Republicans currently enjoy a 19-14 advantage in the state Senate. So if Democrats can flip just three of the districts they're targeting, recalling the Republican senators and getting a Democrat elected, they can take control of the body.

Democrats have also filed a complaint with the district attorney of Dane County, where the Capitol is located, charging the maneuver Republicans used to get the bill passed without a quorum in the Senate violated the state's Open Meetings law.

Democrats have set their sights on the April 5 race for a 10-year term on the state's Supreme Court, where the incumbent, a Republican named David Prosser, faces a Democrat named JoAnne Kloppenburg, whose supporters have joined the protest rallies.

Self-described judicial conservatives have a 4-3 majority on the state high court. So a victory in that race could help Democrats in legal challenges to Walker's anti-union measure.

In a sign of how the union debate may be affecting the political calculus for Republicans, a town hall meeting in Wauwatosa on March 7 hosted by U.S. Representative James Sensenbrenner, a popular conservative Republican who represents the area in Congress, adjourned early because it was besieged by crowds opposed to Walker's measures in Madison.

(Reporting by James B. Kelleher. Editing by Peter Bohan)

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http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2011/03/1...r+Walker&st=nyt (http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2011/03/13/us/politics/politics-us-wisconsin-democrats.html?scp=1&sq=Wisconsin+Governor+Walker&st=nyt)

ugotda7
03-14-2011, 03:58 PM
Rock on losers.

PO.................?

pooltchr
03-14-2011, 05:06 PM
You gotta admire her. No matter how badly her party gets beaten, she continues to be their head cheerleader.

Steve

Soflasnapper
03-14-2011, 06:03 PM
Awaking the sleeping giant? (Reminds me of something Togo said)

That the WI Democrats do something about it requires them to keep energized until at least January of next year. I think they have it in them to remember at least that long.

Soflasnapper
03-14-2011, 06:06 PM
RASMUSSEN has Walker at 42 or 43% as a job approval number there. When O's scrapes that low they always think he'll be forced to resign early any day now. (But I exaggerate.)

Quite ironically, he'd better hope that this recovery proceeds, picks up steam, and helps in WI (against all predictions on the right), or he will not survive the recall effort against him.

I'll bet he didn't see that possibility coming.

LWW
03-15-2011, 03:29 AM
Extra Kool Ade seems to be available this week.

Gayle in MD
03-15-2011, 04:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Awaking the sleeping giant? (Reminds me of something Togo said)

That the WI Democrats do something about it requires them to keep energized until at least January of next year. I think they have it in them to remember at least that long. </div></div>

So do I!!! And, I think we will see the same sustained outrage in Ohio, Idaho, all of the states where Republicans are trying to remove Empolyees rights.

Obviously, according to the polls, most Americans favor a tax hike on the very wealthy, and cutting Military/Pentagon waste, rather than taking cuts which impact our services, SS, Medicare, etc., or reducing educational opportunities. We know we have degraded infrastructure. Imagine the jobs, there. Pollution is a grave health threat, yet, Republicans block every measure to address it.

I want my local police, teachers and firemen, well paid, and with the right to negotiate for safe, effective working environments. The teachers in my area, are very dedicated. My daughter and I both volunteer, and our teachers in this area put in very long hours. Their day surely doesn't end at three in the afternoon, in fact, it's just beginning at that time.

I surely do not think the voters are about to throw in the towel, over these attacks on the Middle Class in our country, and succumb to dictating Governors, who seek to address dificits, on the acks of an already struggling Middle Class, to benefit their wealthy contributors, under the guise of budget concerns, while they give huge giveaways to the wealthy Corporate CEO's, as the Wall St. thieves, and predatory Banking/lending practices, are still going full speed ahead.

I'd be very interested on your opnions....

G.

Gayle in MD
03-15-2011, 04:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RASMUSSEN has Walker at 42 or 43% as a job approval number there. When O's scrapes that low they always think he'll be forced to resign early any day now. (But I exaggerate.)

Quite ironically, he'd better hope that this recovery proceeds, picks up steam, and helps in WI (against all predictions on the right), or he will not survive the recall effort against him.

I'll bet he didn't see that possibility coming.
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Repubs thought they had a mandate, to continue to rob the Middle, to benefit the top, LOL,... Not so much, obviously.

Wisconsins have withdrawn their money from the banks which supported his campaign.

These folks are not backing down. They have to wait until Walker is in office a year, for his recall, but they are movinb swiftly on those Republicans that they CAN recall, now.

I don't think Wisconsins are about to give up, either.

G.

eg8r
03-15-2011, 03:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wisconsin was birthplace for some of the first U.S. unions among foundry, shoe and paper workers in the 19th century. It was the first state to pass worker compensation protections in 1911, unemployment compensation in 1932, and public employee collective bargaining rights in 1959, according to the Wisconsin Labor History Society.

</div></div>Wow, seems the workers of Wisconsin sure are used to expecting to get paid whether they work or not.

eg8r