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Soflasnapper
03-28-2011, 12:59 AM
During Fox's News Sunday broadcast with Chris Wallace, the running scroll reported the death of Geraldine Ferrarro. As part of that, they of course mentioned her historic role as the first woman on a major party's ticket with Walter Mondale. Fair enough, as that is the main reason she is a notable figure in history.

Then they continued by saying her ticket ran against the incumbent president Reagan and vice president GHW Bush. Ok, maybe younger people didn't know that, and it is also part of the story that made her famous.

THEN THEY ADDED: 'Reagan won in a landslide.'

While this is accurate, it is a ridiculous thing to put into a scroll that is purportedly about Ms. Ferrarro's passing. It's as if they got their viewers attention only to stick their finger in our eyes.

Poor Chris was lamenting why all the other Sunday shows from the other networks got appearances by SecState Clinton and SecDef Gates, whereas Fox did not. Cheap triumphalist shots like that scroll provide part of the answer.

cushioncrawler
03-28-2011, 02:55 AM
If any prez shood hav been impeached it woz Raygun.
What a pox on this earth.
mac.

LWW
03-28-2011, 03:37 AM
Oh, please.

Gayle in MD
03-28-2011, 04:36 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">During Fox's News Sunday broadcast with Chris Wallace, the running scroll reported the death of Geraldine Ferrarro. As part of that, they of course mentioned her historic role as the first woman on a major party's ticket with Walter Mondale. Fair enough, as that is the main reason she is a notable figure in history.

Then they continued by saying her ticket ran against the incumbent president Reagan and vice president GHW Bush. Ok, maybe younger people didn't know that, and it is also part of the story that made her famous.

THEN THEY ADDED: 'Reagan won in a landslide.'

While this is accurate, it is a ridiculous thing to put into a scroll that is purportedly about Ms. Ferrarro's passing. It's as if they got their viewers attention only to stick their finger in our eyes.

Poor Chris was lamenting why all the other Sunday shows from the other networks got appearances by SecState Clinton and SecDef Gates, whereas Fox did not. Cheap triumphalist shots like that scroll provide part of the answer. </div></div>

I often find Fox to be offensive, as well.

You're right, the example you share, surely highlights their lack of class.

They are as repulsive in their obvious, less than journalistic approach, as the Party they represent has always been. No conscience, and no standards.

Gayle in Md.

Gayle in MD
03-28-2011, 04:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If any prez shood hav been impeached it woz Raygun.
What a pox on this earth.
mac. </div></div>
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Tap,Tap,Tap...

Mac, you are so right!

G.

LWW
03-28-2011, 05:00 AM
And there you have it. You, Gee, Snoopy, and I all are in agreement ... MSNBC has no class.

That is, unless, y'all are using a double standard.

Y'all wouldn't do that ... would you?

Oh dear ... they have been collectively hoist by their own petard! (http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=345469#Post345469)

Soflasnapper
03-28-2011, 12:01 PM
Good catch, my compliments.

The difference, however, is that the MSNBC piece is a 1,000 word+ retrospective (approx., didn't do a word count), that offered a comprehensive look at her career and her run for that office, INCLUDING such negative things as her son's drug conviction, her husband's financial scandal, and many things that are suitable for a lengthy bio piece, but not a brief listing of an 'in memorium' scroll marking her passing.

And, of course, as you don't mention, this was not an MSNBC report at all, but rather their re-publication of AN ASSOCIATED PRESS ARTICLE that offered a relatively complete review of all her political life (not just a headline kind of scroll summary).

Had the Fox scroll included her son's drug conviction or her husband's financial scandal, that would also have been a cheap shot, despite it being appropriate in a lengthy biographical piece. Ditto for the reference to her being forced to resign as a HRC campaign rep over her remarks that O got where he did because he was black.

It almost looks like Fox simply puts AP wire copy on their scroll, with invidious editing.

LWW
03-28-2011, 12:19 PM
OK ... you use a double standard while puffing enough smoke to convince those who love double standards that you were justified in doing so.

Sev
03-28-2011, 01:58 PM
They also mentioned she was Fox News Contributor. That had to really hurt.

Soflasnapper
03-28-2011, 06:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK ... you use a double standard while puffing enough smoke to convince those who love double standards that you were justified in doing so. </div></div>

I wonder how you go through a world where everything to you is like everything else, and no differing details matter?

Shorter version of many discussions here:

Party A: THIS is <u>just like</u> THAT, but YOU said THIS was (x) when it happened, and now YOU say THAT was (not-x) when it happened. HYPOCRITICAL DOUBLE-TALKING WEASEL!

Party B's reply: No, this is <u>not</u> that in many important respects, namely a-z (listing differences).

Party A: "Blah blah blah." (actual quote from many discussions here) Stop <s>listing differences</s> making nonsensical distinctions that don't make any difference that you've been served up on a spoon!

Party B: ??? (non-plussed)

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Let me explain it to you a couple of ways. When a obituary lists 20 things about a person, especially from a news organization talking about a lengthy public career, then all these things can be mentioned.

When a brief notice lists maybe three things, you don't use as one of only a few things those negative things that are suitable for the more lengthy comprehensive obit piece.

Imagine if on the occasion of Reagan's death a scroll said a couple of things about his elective offices (CA governor (dates), US president (dates)), survived by his wife Nancy and his 3 remaining children, and then followed with this entirely factual ending: Reagan revealed he suffered from Alzheimer's Disease, which many thought started during his presidential term.

That would be a cheap shot, even though it's absolutely true, and would be ok to put into an article-length obituary retrospective.

Sev
03-28-2011, 06:40 PM
Or you could have a Paul Welstone Rally.

Soflasnapper
03-28-2011, 07:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They also mentioned she was Fox News Contributor. That had to really hurt. </div></div>

Good one!

LWW
03-29-2011, 03:39 AM
If your point is that it was somewhat rude to mention she was on the receiving end of the worst beatdown in recent US natl political history ... then I concur.

That isn't your position however.

Your position is that it was simply horrible for Fox to do it ... but you will enter into self intellectual flagellation to explain that just because MSNBC did the exact same thing doesn't in any way mean that MSNBC did the exact same thing.

See the concurrent thread discussing blackwhite.