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Gayle in MD
03-28-2011, 06:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'> http://fatherfolk.com/politics/republicans-want-your-uterus/

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Republicans Want Your Uterus</span>


Republicans are selling to the American people the idea of less government. There is a portion of Americans that are buying into this idea. The GOP and The Tea Party are moving forward with de-funding community oriented programs such as: Planned Parenthood, Corporation Public Broadcasting, Medicare, Medicaid, food services and Social Security among others. They are also on the crusade of killing Healthcare reform for over 32 million Americans, and all of this on the platform of “less government”. They did vote to pour $7 million into advertising on NASCAR cars. Way to have your priorities straight, forget the millions of Americans that need help. The government will go on an advertising campaign for the military by placing advertisements on racing cars. If Americans want food, shelter, healthcare and an education they’ll have to join the military to receive any of it. What a fucking brilliant way to grow those enlistment numbers. Less government?
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Less government except when it comes to the body of a woman. Republican and The Tea Party want to de-fund Planned Parenthood to make it harder on women to have abortions. Abortions account for 3% of the annual health services of Planned Parenthood. Whether you are pro-life or pro-choice you have to recognize that Planned Parenthood offers more health services for the 5 million women and men that walk through their doors every year, than they offer abortions.

The Catholic Church is already policing a woman’s body in the hospitals they own and operate; we don’t need the GOP involved as well. Last year a Nun that worked as a hospital administrator was excommunicated for allowing an abortion to be performed to save the mother’s life (read full story here). The Catholic Church is deciding the value of a woman’s life according to their personal belief structure and it‘s 100% legal because it‘s religion. Stop forcing your beliefs into my life. What about my beliefs? What about my belief that my wife’s life is worth more to her, me and her family than your unfounded belief system?

Republicans introduced legislation trying to redefine rape as forcible rape in an attempt to ban the use of tax-payer money to pay for abortions due to a woman being raped. Essentially, what these guys were trying to do was tell women that their rape doesn’t count as real rape because it doesn’t meet their definition of “forcible rape” and they then would deny the woman an abortion. Fortunately, this was dropped a couple of weeks ago.</span>Georgia Rep. Bobby Franklin (R) introduced a bill that says according to CNN:
“Franklin’s bill would eliminate the word “victim” from statutes dealing with stalking, rape, obscene telephone contact with a child and family violence and replace it with “accuser.”?

Franklin is at it again. This time he has introduced a bill that will require police to investigate every miscarriage as if it were a murder. He wants to ensure that any woman that has a miscarriage didn’t do so intentionally. Under Franklin’s bill women must present proof the miscarriage happened without intervention or face felony charges.

Via Daily Kos:
“Franklin wants to create a Uterus Police to investigate miscarriages, and requires that any time a miscarriage occurs, whether in a hospital or without medical assistance, it must be reported and a fetal death certificate issued. If the cause of death is unknown, it must be investigated. If the woman can’t tell how it happened, than those Uterus Police can ask family members and friends how it happened. Hospitals are required to keep records of anyone who has a spontaneous abortion and report it. Yup, we’ve been waiting for someone to suggest this–and Franklin has. Needless to say, there are no exceptions allowed. Not for rape victims. Not for incest victims. Not to save the life and health of the mother (the fetus must get equal care).”

Less Government is their platform. They’re saying to the American people, “You don’t want the government in your life telling you what to do…except when it goes against my personal religion. Then I will force it upon you and your family.”

This sounds like a Republican death panel to me that’s under the guise of God.
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Gayle in MD
03-28-2011, 07:10 AM
May 19, 2010
Last November, a 27-year-old woman was admitted to St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix. She was 11 weeks pregnant with her fifth child, and she was gravely ill. According to a hospital document, she had "right heart failure," and her doctors told her that if she continued with the pregnancy, her risk of mortality was "close to 100 percent."

The patient, who was too ill to be moved to the operating room much less another hospital, agreed to an abortion. But there was a complication: She was at a Catholic hospital.

"They were in quite a dilemma," says Lisa Sowle Cahill, who teaches Catholic theology at Boston College. "There was no good way out of it. The official church position would mandate that the correct solution would be to let both the mother and the child die. I think in the practical situation that would be a very hard choice to make."

But the hospital felt it could proceed because of an exception — called Directive 47 in the U.S. Catholic Church's ethical guidelines for health care providers — that allows, in some circumstance, procedures that could kill the fetus to save the mother. Sister Margaret McBride, who was an administrator at the hospital as well as its liaison to the diocese, gave her approval.

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Church Q&A On Abortion, Sister Margaret McBride And Excommunication
The woman survived. When Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted heard about the abortion, he declared that McBride was automatically excommunicated — the most serious penalty the church can levy.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"She consented in the murder of an unborn child," says the Rev. John Ehrich, the medical ethics director for the Diocese of Phoenix. "There are some situations where the mother may in fact die along with her child. But — and this is the Catholic perspective — you can't do evil to bring about good. The end does not justify the means."</span>

Ehrich adds that under canon or church law, the nun should be expelled from her order, the Sisters of Mercy, unless the order can find an alternative penalty. Ehrich concedes that the circumstances of this case were "hard."

"But there are certain things that we don't really have a choice" about, he says. "You know, if it's been done and there's public scandal, the bishop has to take care of that, because he has to say, 'Look, this can't happen.' "
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A Double Standard?

But according to the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a canon lawyer, the bishop "clearly had other alternatives than to declare her excommunicated." Doyle says Olmsted could have looked at the situation, realized that the nun faced an agonizing choice and shown her some mercy. He adds that this case highlights a "gross inequity" in how the church chooses to handle scandal. </span>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted, shown here in 2003, declared that McBride was automatically excommunicated because she allowed a patient at a Catholic hospital to get an abortion. But some say her quick punishment stands in stark contrast to the protection many pedophile priests have received from their bishops.

"In the case of priests who are credibly accused and known to be guilty of sexually abusing children, they are in a sense let off the hook," Doyle says. </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>Doyle says no pedophile priests have been excommunicated. When priests have been caught, he says, their bishops have protected them, and it has taken years or decades to defrock them, if ever.

"Yet in this instance we have a sister who was trying to save the life of a woman, and what happens to her? The bishop swoops down [and] declares her excommunicated before he even looks at all the facts of the case," Doyle says.</span>Ehrich agrees that sexual abuse can't be tolerated. But he says neither can McBride's actions.

"She said, 'Yes, you can kill that unborn child.' That's a heinous act. And I'm not going to make a distinction between what's worse. They're both abhorrent," Ehrich says.

Ehrich says the nun can be admitted back into the Catholic community by going to confession and repenting. McBride still works at the hospital in another position. Whether she is allowed to remain in her religious order, Erich says that is up to the Sisters of Mercy.



http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126985072



<span style="color: #990000"> ABSOLUTELY MISOGYNISTIC, AND REPULSIVE!

"When fascism come to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, waving a cross." </span>

pooltchr
03-28-2011, 07:36 AM
Was this really worthy of starting two different threads to post the same thing?

Steve

Gayle in MD
03-28-2011, 09:18 AM
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Fascism: modern political ideology that seeks to regenerate the social, economic, and cultural life of a country by basing it on a heightened sense of national belonging or ethnic identity. Fascism rejects liberal ideas such as freedom and individual rights, and often presses for the destruction of elections, legislatures, and other elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of fascism, attempts to build fascist societies have led to wars and persecutions that caused millions of deaths. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>As a result, fascism is strongly associated with right-wing fanaticism, racism, totalitarianism, and violence </span></div></div>

pooltchr
03-28-2011, 09:23 AM
More post duplication? What is it that makes you think that what you say is so important that it needs to be in every thread going?

Repetition does not make it true.

Steve