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Gayle in MD
04-01-2011, 06:53 AM
WASHINGTON -- A coalition of 139 groups have written a letter to the leadership in the Senate and the White House demanding that any continuing resolution to fund the government and prevent a shutdown be stripped of all unrelated amendments, or “policy riders.”

The letter -- signed by, among others, prominent organizations from the progressive, labor, health, and environmental advocacy worlds -- comes as Congressional leadership finds itself in a high-stakes, 11th hour attempt to forge consensus on a bill that would keep the government funded through the end of September.

The authors write:

The undersigned organizations, on behalf of our millions of members and supporters, write today to express our strong opposition to inclusion of any policy riders in legislation that will fund government operations for Fiscal Year 2011.
There have not been any hearings related to these extraordinarily far-reaching proposals. This back-door means of legislating does not allow for adequate debate about the merits of such sweeping policy changes, which deserve full deliberation by both chambers in the course of the normal legislative process.

The House of Representatives' Continuing Resolution (H.R. 1), which was voted on one month ago, included vast cuts and erected obstructions to critical public health, worker safety, consumer, civil rights, and environmental programs. We urge you to adopt a strict policy of rejecting all such provisions in subsequent 2011 spending bills, rather than negotiating one harmful rider against another.


While the number of groups that signed the letter is impressive, the likelihood remains that they will end the negotiating process disappointed. Members of both Democratic and Republican leadership (in both congressional chambers) have come to a tentative understanding to keep some riders in the final continuing resolution. The debate, instead, has shifted to which of the controversial provisions leadership can purge without risking needed -- predominantly Tea Party -- votes.

As it stands, lawmakers are likely to scrap the most controversial riders, such as those that would defund Planned Parenthood and restrict the amount of money used to implement health care reform. There has been some chatter that Democrats would stomach an amendment that would strip the Environmental Protection Agency’s power to regulate power plants, but the White House put out a statement on Thursday saying they would oppose such a move.



Among the most prominent signatories to the letter are labor union SEIU, civil liberties defender ACLU, and the National Organization of Women.

READ THE LETTER HERE:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/31/139-groups-sign-letter-de_n_843398.html

LWW
04-01-2011, 07:07 AM
I encourage everyone to read the list of signatories.

If one wanted to put together an all star team of moonbat craxzy leftists ... that would be the list to select from.

Sev
04-01-2011, 07:16 AM
God I hope the shut the government down for the rest of the budgetary year.

It would be a good for the people to see how little we actually need it.

Qtec
04-01-2011, 07:22 AM
139? That's just 71 short of the number that showed up for the latest DC TP rally.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tea Party group: 'Cut it or shut it'
By Russell Berman - 03/31/11 02:00 PM ET

A small but vocal group of Tea Party activists gathered outside the Capitol on Thursday to urge House Republican leaders to hold the line and push for deeper spending cuts in the federal budget.

Chanting, “Cut it or shut it” and “We want less,” the activists directed their ire at Senate Democrats, arguing that the cuts they have demanded are not “extreme,” but necessary to right the nation’s fiscal ship.


<span style='font-size: 26pt'>Numbering no more than a couple hundred people,</span> the rally paled in comparison to the masses of Tea Party activists that have jammed the Capitol grounds and the National Mall in the past. Cold and wet conditions might have dampened the turnout. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>At its outset, it seemed as if there were nearly as many reporters and camera crews as activists.</span> </div></div>

How sad.

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/teaparty1.jpg



Q.... link (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/153097-tea-party-demonstrators-call-for-more-spending-cuts)

Qtec
04-01-2011, 07:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tea Party group: 'Cut it or shut it'
By Russell Berman - 03/31/11 02:00 PM ET

A small but vocal group of Tea Party activists gathered outside the Capitol on Thursday to urge House Republican leaders to hold the line and push for deeper spending cuts in the federal budget.

Chanting, “Cut it or shut it” and<span style='font-size: 20pt'> “We want less,” </span></div></div>

Which has just occurred to me to be the exact opposite of what Wall St and the GOP preach.

Greed is good.

Q

Gayle in MD
04-01-2011, 07:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tea Party group: 'Cut it or shut it'
By Russell Berman - 03/31/11 02:00 PM ET

A small but vocal group of Tea Party activists gathered outside the Capitol on Thursday to urge House Republican leaders to hold the line and push for deeper spending cuts in the federal budget.

Chanting, “Cut it or shut it” and<span style='font-size: 20pt'> “We want less,” </span></div></div>

Which has just occurred to me to be the exact opposite of what Wall St and the GOP preach.

Greed is good.

Q

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My friends, one on Park Police, and one, one Capital Police, both told me there were less than a hundred actual TPers there, and that some there were Code Pink, and some were actually protesting the Republicans against the Unions.

Guess Koch Brothers saved themselves some bus money. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

G.

llotter
04-01-2011, 08:15 AM
I was quite surprised to read this morning that the EPA funds with millions of dollars annually quite a few groups, like the following:

American Lung Association $20 million
Environmental Defense Fund 2 million
Nature Conservancy 11 million
Natural Resources Defense
Council 6 million
World Resources Institute 4 million

Now, it wouldn't a surprise, however, if those who were dependent on government spending, would lobby for more spending and it is probably the case that those 139 groups are also largely dependent in the same fashion. It is appalling to think that our tax money is being used to lobby for still more of our money.

LWW
04-01-2011, 08:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">God I hope the shut the government down for the rest of the budgetary year.

It would be a good for the people to see how little we actually need it. </div></div>That's why it won't happen.

Gayle in MD
04-01-2011, 08:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was quite surprised to read this morning that the EPA funds with millions of dollars annually quite a few groups, like the following:

American Lung Association $20 million
Environmental Defense Fund 2 million
Nature Conservancy 11 million
Natural Resources Defense
Council 6 million
World Resources Institute 4 million

Now, it wouldn't a surprise, however, if those who were dependent on government spending, would lobby for more spending and it is probably the case that those 139 groups are also largely dependent in the same fashion. It is appalling to think that our tax money is being used to lobby for still more of our money. </div></div>

And you obviously have not a clue about the work these groups you mention, actually do.

What else is new?

G.

pooltchr
04-01-2011, 09:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was quite surprised to read this morning that the EPA funds with millions of dollars annually quite a few groups, like the following:

American Lung Association $20 million
Environmental Defense Fund 2 million
Nature Conservancy 11 million
Natural Resources Defense
Council 6 million
World Resources Institute 4 million

Now, it wouldn't a surprise, however, if those who were dependent on government spending, would lobby for more spending and it is probably the case that those 139 groups are also largely dependent in the same fashion. It is appalling to think that our tax money is being used to lobby for still more of our money. </div></div>

Well, there is $43 million that could easily be cut from the federal budget with no significant impact on the public!!!

Steve

llotter
04-01-2011, 09:33 AM
If they were worthwhile endeavors, they wouldn't need involuntary contributions for support. Plus, it is the responsibility of Congress to spend the taxpayers money and they cannot delegate it to the Administrative branch, so it is unconstitutional on it face.

llotter
04-01-2011, 09:37 AM
I bet that these examples are just the tip of the iceberg. If we could rid ourselves of the Nanny State, we would cut federal spending by at least 60% and nothing would stimulate our economy more or faster than cutting government down to its constitutional size.

Gayle in MD
04-01-2011, 10:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they were worthwhile endeavors, they wouldn't need involuntary contributions for support.

<span style="color: #660000">Typical broad reaching RW knee jerk response, which is absurd on its face. </span>


Plus, it is the responsibility of Congress to spend the taxpayers money and they cannot delegate it to the Administrative branch, so it is unconstitutional on it face.

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Wrong again, it is the responsibility of Congress to present and vote on a budget, and then present their budget, to the Senate.

The Senate then either votes on it, or they either filibuster, delay, or use one of several other tactics to keep it from a vote, which, BTW, Republicans actually broke the record on that sort of obstructionism tactics, when they were in the minority and which they are still doing to this day, on everything the President is trying to get done....

If the Senate has enough votes to pass it, then the President either signs it, or he uses his veto pen.


Now if the President is George Bush, he simply writes a signing statement, stating that he isn't going to follow the rule of law, or agree to honor the legislation, a trick which he used and abused more than any other president in history!




Again, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, as usual.

G.

pooltchr
04-01-2011, 10:50 AM
So you think it's quite alright for the EPA to give away taxpayer money to specific organizations that have a political agenda????????

Steve

Gayle in MD
04-01-2011, 11:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does A Tea Party Rally Attracting “Dozens” Qualify As News?
April 01, 2011 10:19 am ET by Eric Boehlert

Or put another way, is there any limit to how small or poorly attended a Tea Party rally can be before the press finally stops showering the right-wing movement with coverage? Based on the avalanche of reporting that yesterday's minuscule Tea Party rally in Washington, D.C., generated, the answer appears to be, no.

Just how sparse was the Tea Party crowd? A Bloomberg dispatch tactfully noted the rally attracted "dozens" of supporters.

Dozens!

I realize the fact that many high-profile members of Congress were scheduled speak at the Thursday rally meant it was going to be covered regardless, that there was an automatic news hook in place regardless of the Tea Party turnout.

But still, it’s long past time that reporters and pundits started telling the truth about the incredibly shrinking Tea Party movement in America. And it’s time members of the press corps asked themselves why they continue to cover Tea Party events that draw “dozens.” (I guarantee you that if Media Matters promoted a rally in the nation’s capital and invited members of Congress to speak, there would be a hell of a lot more than “dozens” of supporters. I can also guarantee you most news organizations would not cover the event.)

Remember, this is supposed to be a grassroots movement, which means one of the newsworthy angles is that so many Americans are supposedly getting involved in the Tea Party initiative. But if the party calls for a major Washington, D.C., rally and promises to have members of Congress addressing the crowd, but only “dozens” show up? That in and of itself is news. (i.e. What's become of the Tea Party?)

Of course, the wheels actually came off the Tea Party's grassroots movement a long time ago. Flashback: Activists predicted 3-4,000 Tea Party faithful would flock to Philadelphia last summer to hear Andrew Breitbart address the masses. Except only one-tenth of that bothered to show up.

How many disappointing rallies with crowds numbering in the low hundreds does the Tea Party have to suffer through before the press acknowledges there’s no there there?

In terms of yesterday's coverage, I thought The Atlantic and Slate got it about right with their headlines, "Some, But Not Many, Tea Partiers Rally on Capitol Hill" and "The Tea Party Comes to D.C., in Small Numbers, On Message," respectively. And other news outlets, such as CBSNews.com, at least made it plain in their articles that the rally turnout was surprisingly (shockingly?) small.

Others, though, camouflaged that fact. The Los Angeles Times, for instance, politely made no references to miniature Tea Party crowd size in its report. And of course, neither did Fox News. Its online dispatch mentioned the "energized" and "boisterous" crowd. Missing from the report? The fact that the rally attracted dozens of supporters.

Dozens.

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pooltchr
04-01-2011, 11:42 AM
Dodging the question again?????????

Steve

LWW
04-02-2011, 02:24 AM
It's unfair of you to ask her opinion before she's been told what it is.

ugotda7
04-02-2011, 05:25 PM
PO...............?