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llotter
04-04-2011, 11:15 AM
So, as part of MoronCare, the taxpayer is footing the insurance tab to entice people to retire early and thus remove them from the total job seekers and lower the unemployment numbers. The Moron never believed in capitalism because the government is limited to minimal involvement in rule making. Under the pseudo-capitalism or as it is often referred to as 'crony-capitalism', the government, using its unlimited taxing and rule-making authority, can both reward those who want to play or punish those who are slow on the uptake. This is basically what is called 'Chicago Style' or strong-arm politics at its dirtiest. These are evil people.

LWW
04-04-2011, 01:09 PM
The technical term is fascist economics, but it really is beyond that and goes into gangsta gubmint.

Soflasnapper
04-04-2011, 02:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, as part of MoronCare, the taxpayer is footing the insurance tab to entice people to retire early and thus remove them from the total job seekers and lower the unemployment numbers. The Moron never believed in capitalism because the government is limited to minimal involvement in rule making. Under the pseudo-capitalism or as it is often referred to as 'crony-capitalism', the government, using its unlimited taxing and rule-making authority, can both reward those who want to play or punish those who are slow on the uptake. This is basically what is called 'Chicago Style' or strong-arm politics at its dirtiest. These are evil people. </div></div>

This is an astounding claim. To what can you possibly be referring?

Considering that nothing like this can even possibly happen until about 2014 or whenever it is that the major provisions take effect, your claim must be that they have set this up to REDUCE STATED UNEMPLOYMENT THREE YEARS OUT!?!?!

If so, that clearly WOULD be the action of a moron, if that were his reason. Or, perhaps a moronic claim on the part of an uninformed party, considering he would not be crassly motivated by that fact for electoral concerns.

I still rather doubt there is any such provision, even one taking place in 3-5 years out. Again, to what are you referring?

Under
04-04-2011, 02:38 PM
No more astounding than the words read from the morons teleprompter.

Soflasnapper
04-04-2011, 08:14 PM
Perhaps you are referring to that 'secret' $5 billion 'slush fund' that Byron York described, and Sev posted about?

Problem: this was to SUBSIDIZE companies and others who were already offering health care payments to early retirees.

It was already happening, in other words.

It's not like when Reagan ordered the Dept. of Labor to newly begin counting every member of the US military as part of the unemployment number.

Now THAT one basically averaged an extra 3 million people (at 100% employment) into the unemployment numbers, which had never been done before, and which DID have the effect of rigging the unemployment numbers to a more pleasing (although false) picture.

LWW
04-05-2011, 03:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, as part of MoronCare, the taxpayer is footing the insurance tab to entice people to retire early and thus remove them from the total job seekers and lower the unemployment numbers. The Moron never believed in capitalism because the government is limited to minimal involvement in rule making. Under the pseudo-capitalism or as it is often referred to as 'crony-capitalism', the government, using its unlimited taxing and rule-making authority, can both reward those who want to play or punish those who are slow on the uptake. This is basically what is called 'Chicago Style' or strong-arm politics at its dirtiest. These are evil people. </div></div>

This is an astounding claim. To what can you possibly be referring? </div></div>

I think it's called reality.

People who would have worked until 65, but didn't want to pay for private HC premiums, are now retiring at 62 in droves because of taxpayer subsidized premiums for those with preexisting conditions.

Add onto that the fed subsidizing private companies who pay for retiree insurance.