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Gayle in MD
04-05-2011, 02:02 AM
This plan destroys Medicare and Midecaid, under the Republican LIE, that they are just trying to SAVE Medicare and Medicaid!

No more guarantees for seniors, no more basic health care for the poor, and instead offers a "premium" support system, lol, by shifting more costs to seniors, seniors get government money to use toward a Private Insurance policy, gutting medicaid and turned into block grant, giving to states, a lump sum of money, to use as they see fit.

Anaylists fear that states would limit enrollment, and offer less coverage.

Ryan nevertheless, proves himself tirelessly generous as regards the welfare, for corporations, and when asked last night if he planned to eliminate tax breaks, to bring in more revenue, for example, in the case of the Oil Industry...he answered....

"WE don't have a tax problem. The problem with our deficit is not because Americans are taxed too little," Ryan said.

He also stated...

"We are giving them{Dems]a political weapon to use against us, but they will have to lie and demagog to use it against us."

The Republican plan lowers corporate tax rate from 35% to 24%... /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif not that many of them pay it anyway.

Mr. Wendell Potter, former Health Insurance Operative/employee, said last night on the Ed show, that Insurance corporations, and the so called, American Chanber Of Congress, will spend billions, to convince Americans of this plan's positive results, and will distort the reality of the damages of this program, to Middle Class, and poor, Americans, throwing many, many of our ill, and old, into poverty. He calls this plan, a giveaway to the Health Insurance, Industry, to the detriment of everyone else.

It destroys the gains made in the Affordable Health Care Plan.

Republicans prove, once again, they wish to continue to take from all Americans, to pander to the wealthy, and to corporate interests.

I might add, the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal, Poll, shows the fllowing:

When asked what is NOT acceptable actions to take in determining the budget:

76% said no cuts to Medicare and SS
67% said no cuts to Medicaid
only 17% said no tax increases for the wealthy

About The Poll:

"Even as lawmakers from both parties — even the White House — make not-so-subtle indications that deep cuts and “reforms” to programs like Social Security and Medicare are on the table, voters are letting it be known that they are decidedly opposed to the idea.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>A new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finds that overwhelming majorities of Americans call “significant” cuts to Social Security, Medicare and government spending on education are “unacceptable” ways to deal with the federal budget deficit. Nearly 80 percent of the respondents offered a vehement thumbs-down to each of these proposals that have been broached with varying levels of enthusiasm by Republicans and Democrats alike. Only a small percentage of Americans believe that any cuts to the two main government safety nets are even necessary.</span>But the most trouble could be ahead for the Republican Party as new “Tea Party” members of Congress as well as prominent conservatives considering a 2012 presidential bid have publicly backed “entitlement reform” that would entail massive cuts and drastic structural changes — including abolishing Medicare and privatizing Social Security — that Americans continue to abhor.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>Less than a quarter of Americans support making significant cuts to Social Security or Medicare to tackle the country’s mounting deficit, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, illustrating the challenge facing lawmakers who want voter buy-in to alter entitlement programs. </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>In the poll, Americans across all age groups and ideologies said by large margins that it was “unacceptable” to make significant cuts in entitlement programs in order to reduce the federal deficit. Even tea party supporters, by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, declared significant cuts to Social Security “unacceptable.” </span>

Even as Americans oppose cuts to popular programs, they continue to believe the deficit should be a “priority” for the president and Congress. To reduce the deficit,<span style='font-size: 14pt'> Americans are increasingly supportive of tax hikes on corporations and the wealthy, as well as eliminating billions of dollars in subsidies for energy companies, subsidies just approved again by House Republicans (74 percent of poll respondents said cutting government subsidies for the oil and gas industry was “acceptable”).

Also included in the poll was data that showed 60 percent of Americans are opposed to efforts to strip public employees of collective bargaining rights, such as the plan that has led to protests in Wisconsin and has been picked up by Republican governors and legislators in numerous states."</span>


<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>This is the Republican Version of listening to the American People???

Translation,.... listening to the wealthy, and to corporate interests, ONLY, and taking more and more from everyone else, to hand over to those wealthy people, who don't really need it at all, whiole so many others are barely getting by.

This is what they're REALLY doing to your children's and grand- children's futures.</span> </span>

LWW
04-05-2011, 04:41 AM
To save you the indignity of having to plead with the flock:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan's Extremits Budget????

To my left leaning friends...

Bump! </div></div>

Gayle in MD
04-05-2011, 06:11 AM
<span style="color: #990000"> WOW, looks like Reich had it exactly correct. </span>

"But Americans are about to learn how much is at stake in our larger budget fight, how radical the new conservatives in Washington are, and the extent to which some politicians would transfer even more resources from the have-nots and have-a-littles to the have-a-lots.

This week, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) will announce the House Republicans’ budget plan, which is expected to include cuts in many programs for the neediest Americans. The Ryan budget’s central purpose will not be deficit reduction but the gradual dismantling of key parts of government. Remember that Ryan wants both to preserve the Bush tax cuts and, over the long run, to enact more breaks for the wealthy, including the elimination of the capital gains tax.

Ryan’s plan reportedly will include steep Medicaid cuts, disguised as a proposal to turn the program into a “block grant” to the states. The net effect would be to leave even more Americans to the mercies of the private insurance market.

This week, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) will announce the House Republicans’ budget plan, which is expected to include cuts in many programs for the neediest Americans. The Ryan budget’s central purpose will not be deficit reduction but the gradual dismantling of key parts of government. Remember that Ryan wants both to preserve the Bush tax cuts and, over the long run, to enact more breaks for the wealthy, including the elimination of the capital gains tax.

Ryan’s plan reportedly will include steep Medicaid cuts, disguised as a proposal to turn the program into a “block grant” to the states. The net effect would be to leave even more Americans to the mercies of the private insurance market."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/t...jTXC_story.html

Gayle in MD
04-05-2011, 06:24 AM
And, this is intresting, from an op-ed, written by David Frum, a Conservative, explaining why Republicans lost so big in 2010...AND they are making the very same mistakes, AGAIN!


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">David Frum, former speechwriter to President George W. Bush:

Conservatives and Republicans today suffered their most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s.

It’s hard to exaggerate the magnitude of the disaster. Conservatives may cheer themselves that they’ll compensate for today’s expected vote with a big win in the November 2010 elections


<span style='font-size: 14pt'>No illusions please: This bill will not be repealed. Even if Republicans scored a 1994 style landslide in November, how many votes could we muster to re-open the “doughnut hole” and charge seniors more for prescription drugs? How many votes to re-allow insurers to rescind policies when they discover a pre-existing condition? How many votes to banish 25 year olds from their parents’ insurance coverage? And even if the votes were there – would President Obama sign such a repeal?We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat</span>


Today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours.</span>


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And it will be Waterloo, for Republicans, AGAIN!

pooltchr
04-05-2011, 07:10 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> explaining why Republicans lost so big in 2010... </div></div>

I know I'm getting old, and my memory isn't what it used to be, but I don't recall the Republicans losing big in 2010...my recollection was that they actually handed the Dems a "shellacking".

Steve

LWW
04-05-2011, 07:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> explaining why Republicans lost so big in 2010... </div></div>

I know I'm getting old, and my memory isn't what it used to be, but I don't recall the Republicans losing big in 2010...my recollection was that they actually handed the Dems a "shellacking".

Steve </div></div>

With doublethink and blackwhite, all realities become believable ... as the cabal proves daily.