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LWW
04-10-2011, 08:27 AM
Many of our Canadian neighbors love to complain about how the US handles it's affairs.

They love to ignore the fact that they live in peace and prosperity, in spite of minimal defense spending, due to their status as America's hat lets them live under the USA defense umbrella.

Now, in their defense, they do live as a disarmed populace lacking the proper 1st and 2nd amendment rights which we enjoy ... and many of them probably know little to nothing about the practices of the Canadian gubmint which you are about to learn of:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A small trailer with six cells surrounded by razor wire and fencing on the grounds of Millhaven Prison is being called Guantanamo North by human rights activists.

Mahmoud Jaballah, who has been detained for more than five years without being charged, is one of three men being held in the trailer compound in the Kingston penitentiary on security certificates based on secret intelligence.

Jaballah said all he wants is a fair trial. "If I go to a fair trial ... I will have freedom," he told CTV News.

Jaballah arrived in Canada in 1996. He was detained in August 2001 on a second security certificate after the courts rejected the first one as unreasonable.

Ottawa can use a security certificate to determine whether a foreign citizen poses a security threat. Under the certificates, the person can be held indefinitely without being charged, and without being told the reason for the detention.

Jaballah's son remembers the night in 1996 when a CSIS agent visited their Toronto home.

"They asked my father to become a spy for them and to work for the secret service," said Ahmad Jaballah, "and my father refused because it doesn't take a genius to realize that spying on your neighbour is wrong."

CSIS denies threatening Jaballah. The intelligence agency alleges he was part of a terror organization in Egypt and met Ahmed Khadr in the 1990s. Khadr, a Canadian and close associate of Osama bin Laden, was killed in a firefight in Afghanistan after Sept. 11, 2001.

CSIS agents say that he still poses a threat.

Devout Muslims put their faith ahead of everything, even family and friends, testified a CSIS agent, identified only as J.P., when Jaballah contested a detention order that would have sent him back to his homeland of Egypt.

Jaballah fought the deportation order because he fears he'll be tortured or killed if sent back.

Jaballah admits he met Khadr in Toronto.

"I told you I know him only because I greet him in the mosque like I greet a lot of people in the mosque," said Jaballah.

Two weeks ago, members of Parliament toured the facility where Jaballah and the other three men are kept.

"These men have been detained without conviction for 5 or 6 years," said NDP MP Bill Siksaynd from British Columbia. "The indefinite detention is unacceptable in Canada."

But the government isn't planning to make any changes.

"Our preoccupation has to be the safety and security of Canadians first and foremost," said Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day. "These people are allowed to go back to their country of origin and, if they want to stay, then they'll be detained."

That leaves Jaballah and his family in limbo.

A federal judge ruled last month he can't be deported to Egypt because of the risk of torture, so he remains in custody with fewer privileges than convicted inmates. He has no access to education, training or private visits with his family.

Jaballah's wife and six children live in Toronto.

"Life is miserable, depressing because I am very far from my kids," he said. "I miss my kids. I miss watching them as they grow." </div></div>
OH DEAR! (http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/CTVNewsAt11/20061203/north_gitmo_061203/)

LWW
04-10-2011, 08:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a damning indictment of how Canada handled prisoners early in its southern Afghan mission, a government whistleblower says all captives that Canadian soldiers transferred to local authorities ended up being tortured – even though many were likely innocent.

The revelation to MPs by Canadian diplomat Richard Colvin, who served 17 months in Afghanistan, is the first ever testimony by a government official that says the country's military handed over detainees to certain torture. </div></div>

OH MY! (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-complicit-in-torture-of-innocent-afghans-diplomat-says/article1369069/)

cushioncrawler
04-10-2011, 04:26 PM
Wikileaks.
In Islam, which denies the existence of Original Sin in totality, the concept of Limbo exists as Barzakh, the state which exists after death prior to the day of resurrection. During this period sinners are punished and the faithful rest in comfort. The concept of underage children is that they go exempt of sin and that they are classed as Muslims and after death they go to heaven where they are cared for by[31] Abraham.
mac.

cushioncrawler
04-10-2011, 04:27 PM
wikileaks
Jahannam in the Qur'anAccording to the Qur'an only God Knows who will go to Jahannam and who will go to Jannah. Those who ignored, or only pretended to believe in Allah remain in Jahannam after Qiyamat (Judgment Day).

Muslims believe that unfaithful Muslims not true to their religion will be punished in Jahannam. Sunni Muslims believe that such Muslims will eventually be forgiven. Muslims also believe that a disbeliever or non-muslim, for not believing while on Earth, may remain there in Hell for eternity—each person is judged according to their own circumstance. However, those who commit shirk, that is, the sin of polytheism, will be condemned to worst punishments in Jahannam for eternity.[4] As well Allah Said: "The one who is not performing his prayer intentionally is truly an unbeliever". Verse 6:128 of the Quran states Allah may choose make the punishment of hell temporary if Allah Wills it according to Allah's Wisdom and Knowledge.[5]

The Quran and Sunnah offer detailed descriptions of the methods of torture in jahannam. The Quran states the punishments will be: the burning of skin, only to be replaced for reburning;[6] garments of fire will be worn, and boiling water will scald the skin and internal organs;[7] faces on fire;[8] lips burnt off;[9] backs on fire;[10] roasting from side to side;[11] faces dragged along fire;[12] bound in yokes then dragged through boiling water and fire.[13] The sunnah introduces punishments, reasons and revelations not mentioned in the quran, such as the majority of hell's inhabitants being women who were ungrateful to their husbands;[14] that the least-suffering person in hell will have their brain boiling from standing on hot embers;[15] and that 'if somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection'[16] and in hell.[17]

Those who are doomed for Hell will eat Zaqqum and drink scalding water. Zaqqum is a thorned tree that grows in Jahannam. It has bitter thorned fruit, shaped like devils' heads, which the damned are compelled to eat to intensify their torment. The Qur'an says:

[44.43] Surely the tree of the Zaqqum,
[44.44] Is the food of the sinful
[44.45] Like dregs of oil; it shall boil in (their) bellies,
[44.46] Like the boiling of hot water.[18]
Islamic sources indicate that all evil creatures, both human and jinn (including Satan himself) will be tormented by the Angel Maalik and his Zabaniyah.

According to Sahih Bukhari 4:54:483 to 4:54:486, Muhammad said that fever is from the heat of the hell, and may be cooled with water.[19]