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Gayle in MD
04-19-2011, 07:14 AM
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/map-has-your-state-banned-sodomy

MAP: Has Your State Banned Sodomy?
— By Tim Murphy

| Tue Apr. 19, 2011 8:29 AM PDT
Last week we reported on the debate in the Texas state legislature over whether to repeal to the state's ban on "homosexual conduct." It's been eight years since the Supreme Court officially knocked down anti-sodomy laws as unconstitutional in Lawrence v. Texas, but Texas' state legislature has thus far refused to remove the law from the books—in large part because most Texas Republicans still support it. In 2010, the state GOP made defense of the anti-sodomy statute part of its platform, calling for the state to effectively ignore the the law of the land: "We demand that Congress exercise its authority granted by the U.S. Constitution to withhold jurisdiction from the federal courts from cases involving sodomy." Gov. Rick Perry, meanwhile, dismissed the Lawrence decision as the product of "nine oligarchs in robes" (never mind that it was a 6–3 decision).

But Texas isn't the only state that's still legislating bedroom activity. Fourteen states currently have laws on the books outlawing anal sex between two consenting, unrelated adults—referred to variously as "deviate sexual conduct," "the infamous crime against nature," "sodomy," and "buggery." And it's taken a concerted effort to keep those laws on the books. Since Lawrence, efforts to formally repeal laws in Montana, Kansas, Utah, Louisiana, North Carolina, and, most notably, Texas have all faced resistance before fizzling out in their respective state legislatures. Conservatives in those states know they can't enforce the laws, but by keeping them in the code, they can send a message that homosexuality is officially condemned by the government. So which states still outlaw butt sex? Here's a map:



http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/map-has-your-state-banned-sodomy


<span style="color: #660000"> Yep, all of the RW nuckle dragging Neanderthal... FLYOVER states, LMAO!</span>

pooltchr
04-19-2011, 07:47 AM
So Gayle comes out in favor of "sodomy," and "buggery."

Why am I not surprised?

Steve

llotter
04-19-2011, 07:47 AM
I don't think I am alone in thinking 'homophobia' is a good thing. It has become 'acceptable' to embrace what is wrong and disparage what is right and this is just one perverse manifestation of what the Left is building for us.

There are a few things that the Left will fight for and all of them are aligned with the destruction of our traditional values and culture. And we can see everywhere how their Utopian future ends in violence, corruption and poverty, just look at those urban enclaves of Leftist ends. They are such idealists!

Gayle in MD
04-19-2011, 08:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think I am alone in thinking 'homophobia' is a good thing. It has become 'acceptable' to embrace what is wrong and disparage what is right and this is just one perverse manifestation of what the Left is building for us.

There are a few things that the Left will fight for and all of them are aligned with the destruction of our traditional values and culture. And we can see everywhere how their Utopian future ends in violence, corruption and poverty, just look at those urban enclaves of Leftist ends. They are such idealists! </div></div>

Religious dictation of private, personal behavior, is the Hallmark of all of the dictatorial forms of Government, which is why our country was founded on the principle of separation of church and state.

There is no mention of GOD, in The Constitution.

People who preach about freedom, while at the same time, stating that they believe THEY have a right to dictate to all others, according to their own, personal, religious beliefs, know nothing of FREEDOM, NOR OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH CLEARLY IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.

THE RW KNUCKLE DRAGGING NEANDERTHALS ARE DESTROYING AMERICA WITH THEIR REPULSIVE RACIST BELIEFS OF WHITE SUPERIORITY, HATRED OF ETHNIC GROUPS, HATRED OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS, HATRED OF IMMIGRANTS, AND WITH THEIR BLATANT HATRED OF HOMOSEXUALS.

STATES WHICH FIGHT TO KEEP OUTDATED INTRUSIONS OF THEIR HATE AND IGNORANCE, INCLUDED IN THEIR LAWS, DEMANDING TO DICTATE AND TO INVADE WITH THEIR DEMANDS, THE PRIVATE, PERSONAL LIVES OF OTHERS, SUFFER FROM HATE, RACISM, HOMOPHOBIA, MISOGYNY, AND SHARE ALL OF THEIR SICK SOCIAL ATTITUDES, WITH ALL OF THE OTHER PSYCHOLOGICALLY ILL, UNBALANCED, AND DAMAGING VIEWS OF THE MOST INHUMANE DICTATORS OF THE WORLD.

NONE OF THAT COMES ANYWHERE NEAR, TO WHAT JESUS TAUGHT, LOVE THEY NEIGHBOR, AS THEY SELF.

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>AS A PROUD AMERICAN, I WILL ALWAYS STAND AGAINST THOSE HATREDS AND IGNORANCE, AND STAND FOR PERSONAL RIGHTS OF SELF DETERMINATION, FOR WOMEN, FOR HOMOSEXUALS, FOR ALL ETHNIC GROUPS, AND FOR THE RIGHTS OF PRIVACY, AND PERSONAL FREEDOM AND EQUAL RIGHTS, UNDER THE LAW.</span>

Here is a little review of how the right attacks any suggestion that we have religious leaders who use their pulpit for political purposes, against the best interests of their own congregations, and the hate they spew, when one of their Repiglican religious opportunists is exposed.

http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=320332#Post320332

G.

pooltchr
04-19-2011, 08:39 AM
So Gayle comes out in favor of "sodomy," and "buggery."

Why am I not surprised?

Steve

wolfdancer
04-19-2011, 12:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">between two consenting, unrelated adults— </div></div>
How about if they are related?
XXX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5wcLl13a8s&feature=player_detailpage)

pooltchr
04-19-2011, 12:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">between two consenting, unrelated adults— </div></div>
How about if they are related?
XXX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5wcLl13a8s&feature=player_detailpage) </div></div>

Brings to mind the age old question...If a man and woman from West Virginia get married, are they still legally brother and sister?

Steve

wolfdancer
04-19-2011, 01:08 PM
LOL

cushioncrawler
04-19-2011, 04:51 PM
Do the flyover states show cruelty and lack of hospitality to the "stranger."?????
Do the flyover states support the poor and the needy????
If so, if not, then it iz they who are Sodomites.
mac.
wikileaks "Jewish viewsBehold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters,
neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw this. (KJV, Ezekiel 16:49-50).
Classical Jewish texts are seen by many as not stressing the homosexual aspect of the attitude of the inhabitants of Sodom as much as their cruelty and lack of hospitality to the "stranger." [10] The 13th-century Jewish scholar Nachmanides wrote, “According to our sages, they were notorious for every evil, but their fate was sealed for their persistence in not supporting the poor and the needy.” His contemporary Rabbenu Yonah expresses the same view: “Scripture attributes their annihilation to their failure to practice tzedakah [charity or justice].” [11] The Book of Wisdom, which is included in the Biblical canon by Orthodox and Roman Catholics, but excluded by modern Jews, Protestants, and other Christian denominations, makes reference to the story of Sodom, further emphasizing that their sin had been failing to practice hospitality:

And punishments came upon the sinners not without former signs by the force of thunders: for they suffered justly according to their own wickedness, insomuch as they used a more hard and hateful behavior toward strangers.
For the Sodomites did not receive those, whom they knew not when they came: but these brought friends into bondage, that had well deserved of them. (KJV, Wisdom 19:13-14)
Prohibitions on same-sex activities among men (#157) and bestiality (#155-156) 613_commandments#Maimonides.27_list are among the 613 commandments as listed by Maimonides in the 12th century; however, their source in Leviticus 18 does not contain the word sodomy. The idea that homosexual intercourse was involved as at least a part of the evil of Sodom arises from the story in Genesis 19

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom - both young and old - surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
That is the NIV translation. The Hebrew verb used is to know, which can have a sexual meaning in the Bible, but doesn't always, and might have a sexual meaning here, judging from Lot's shocked reaction: No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing... "

LWW
04-19-2011, 05:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So Gayle comes out in favor of "sodomy," and "buggery."

Why am I not surprised?

Steve </div></div>

Gee is, again, on both sides of the issue.

LWW
04-19-2011, 05:10 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wolfdancer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">between two consenting, unrelated adults— </div></div>
How about if they are related?
XXX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5wcLl13a8s&feature=player_detailpage) </div></div>

Brings to mind the age old question...If a man and woman from West Virginia get married, are they still legally brother and sister?

Steve </div></div>

Unless they are cousins.

llotter
04-20-2011, 12:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Religious dictation of private, personal behavior, is the Hallmark of all of the dictatorial forms of Government, which is why our country was founded on the principle of separation of church and state. </div></div>

Gayle, how can you be so obviously wrong and still think of ourself as an educated gal. FYI, it is the commie atheists that represent the evil incarnate, murdering tens of millions, installing dictators around the world with no respect for the individual or his freedom. And it is the Judeo-Christian West that have represented the best hope of mankind that you so willfully want to destroy.

It always amazes me how such misinformation that you repeat non-stop continues to live even though they are such conspicuous lies. repeat, repeat repeat the lie and eventually the truth gets lost in the fog. It is a good thing to support the truth even when it hurts and the truth is that our religious heritage is essential to our freedom. Because you don't understand religion only means you haven't looked very closely. Insisting that people do not murder innocent babies is more than religious dogma, it is essential to the respect of life and the value of life. Do away with that and you do away with everything worthwhile.

LWW
04-20-2011, 12:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Religious dictation of private, personal behavior, is the Hallmark of all of the dictatorial forms of Government, which is why our country was founded on the principle of separation of church and state. </div></div>

Gayle, how can you be so obviously wrong and still think of ourself as an educated gal. FYI, it is the commie atheists that represent the evil incarnate, murdering tens of millions, installing dictators around the world with no respect for the individual or his freedom. And it is the Judeo-Christian West that have represented the best hope of mankind that you so willfully want to destroy.

It always amazes me how such misinformation that you repeat non-stop continues to live even though they are such conspicuous lies. repeat, repeat repeat the lie and eventually the truth gets lost in the fog. It is a good thing to support the truth even when it hurts and the truth is that our religious heritage is essential to our freedom. Because you don't understand religion only means you haven't looked very closely. Insisting that people do not murder innocent babies is more than religious dogma, it is essential to the respect of life and the value of life. Do away with that and you do away with everything worthwhile.
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Very well said.

Whenever someone claims the US was founded n atheistic principles, I know I am dealing with a person of historical illiteracy.

Gayle in MD
04-21-2011, 09:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Religious dictation of private, personal behavior, is the Hallmark of all of the dictatorial forms of Government, which is why our country was founded on the principle of separation of church and state. </div></div>

Gayle, how can you be so obviously wrong and still think of ourself as an educated gal.

<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>bwa ha ha ha, MAYBE YOU SHOULD RE-READ THIS???? </span> </span>


FYI, it is the commie atheists that represent the evil incarnate, murdering tens of millions, installing dictators around the world with no respect for the individual or his freedom. And it is the Judeo-Christian West that have represented the best hope of mankind that you so willfully want to destroy.


<span style="color: #990000"> APPARENTLY YOU HAVEN'T STUDIED HISTORY? Don't know what the so called, "Christians" did to the American Indians? Their enslavement of AFrican Americans, whho were treated like work horses? The Crusades??? The bombing of hundreds of thousand of innocent Japanese women and children? How many Iraqi's were slaughtered? The Christians you are so proud of, have committed among the worst atrocities in history, FYI! </span>

It always amazes me how such misinformation that you repeat non-stop continues to live even though they are such conspicuous lies.


<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>YOU ARE THE LIAR... NOT I. THE WORD, "GOD' IS NOT EVEN IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION, WE ARE A NATION OF MANY, MANY RELIGIONS.</span> </span>



repeat, repeat repeat the lie and eventually the truth gets lost in the fog.

<span style="color: #660000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'> That is exactly what you, and the rest of the righties on here do, incessantly! Also, the policy of REpiglicans, always, lie, lie lie...deny, deny, deny!</span> </span>


It is a good thing to support the truth even when it hurts and the truth is that our religious heritage is essential to our freedom.

<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 17pt'> BULL****!!!!

This country was founded on the principle of separation of church and state!!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD FOR ONCE!!!!

There is no government promotion, sanction, nor adherence, to any single religion!!!

"The Separation must be perfect and complete, or neither will survive!"

Guess who wrote that, Sherlock!!!!</span> </span>

Because you don't understand religion only means you haven't looked very closely.

<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>One doesn't go to Catholic school, without understanding religion. Because YOU don't understand nor accpet the Constitution, or the laws of our country, means that YOU are the one who is misinformed. Abortion, is LEGAL in this country, and the reason it is LEGAL is based on ones right to PRIVACY!!!! You who would seek to dictate to all others, according to your personal religious opinions, are unAMerican, and show disrespect for what is SETTLED LAW IN THIS COUNTRY! But then, you praise murderers, so why would your opinions regarding annything humane, hold any value, at all????

So, why did you drop your praise of the murderer???? Afraid you might end up on a no-floy list?</span> </span>



Insisting that people do not murder innocent babies is more than religious dogma, it is essential to the respect of life and the value of life. Do away with that and you do away with everything worthwhile.
</div></div>

<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>More proof of your ignorance of the law, and the constitution!!! It is against the law, to murder babies, Sherlock, LMAO!

YOU have no business pushing your religious views, upon others. Most of what IS wrong in this country, is directl;y linked to organized religion.

I wonder how many adults suffer to this day, after Catholic Priests robbed them of their childhood, their mental health, and their physical privacy, and peace, and the right to ownn their own bodies!!!!

Don't give me your Christian BULL****~!!!!

Organized religion, is at the crux of homophobie, misogyny, racism, and everything that represents HATE!

AND, it has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH JESUS!!!!

YOU are certainly proof of that!

G.</span> </span>

pooltchr
04-21-2011, 10:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'> It is against the law, to murder babies, Sherlock, LMAO!



G.</span> </span> </div></div>

So why do you support the practice?

Steve