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LWW
05-22-2011, 02:35 AM
When the WIKILEAKS scandal emerged, leftists across the land licked their collectivist chops in unison as the state ran Obamedia assured them that these leaks would expose the Bush regime as a criminal organization which wantonly tortured innocents for amusement.

Instead, as the left has watched in terror, it has demonstrated that we were following the correct path ... and the Obama stated policy on detainees, and prosecuting heroes, was pure madness.

To add insult to their own integrity ... the left now praises Obama for allowing Osama to live long past his possible expiration date, and only taking action after WIKILEAKS exposed that a high value AQ leader was living in Abbotabad.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s ongoing release of the Guantanamo Bay prison files, and large numbers of classified State Department cables, attempts to expose what he calls American corruption.

But supporters of the George W. Bush administration’s global war on terrorism say the nearly 800 Guantanamo files show that “enhanced” interrogations of hundreds of captured operatives at secret overseas prisons and at the Cuban prison amounted to one of the most successful intelligence operations in history.

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Before the interrogations, the U.S. knew little about al Qaeda in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Years later, the CIA and military had accumulated a large database of ongoing plots and the identities of terrorists</span>, the WikiLeaks files show.

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>“The WikiLeaks documents provide still additional evidence that intelligence gained from CIA detainees not only helped lead us to Osama bin Laden, it helped us disrupt a number of follow-on attacks that had been set in motion after 9/11,”</span> said Marc Thiessen, a former Bush speechwriter.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“Without this program, we would not have gone nearly 10 years without another catastrophic attack on the homeland. This is quite possibly the most important, and most successful, intelligence program in modern times. But instead of medals, the people behind this program have been given subpoenas.”</span>

He was referring to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.’s launch of a criminal investigation of CIA officers who conducted the “enhanced” interrogations, some of which the Obama administration has dubbed “torture.”

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>The killing of Osama bin Laden underscores the value of the vast intelligence database. The treasure trove of information includes the identities of terrorists operating abroad, plots to kill civilians and details on how al Qaeda used a network of couriers for clandestine communication.

Public disclosure of the interrogation windfall began in April by the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, which obtained hundreds of classified U.S. reports on detainees written by Joint Task Force Guantanamo, the military unit in charge of the prison at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.</span>

As of Thursday, WikiLeaks had released 765 of 779 Gitmo files.

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>The files show that prisoner Abu Farajal al-Libi, al Qaeda’s No. 3 and a close aide to bin Laden, first disclosed the terrorist master’s special courier to the CIA. It was the agency’s ability to find and track the messenger that ultimately led a team of Navy SEALs to bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he was killed early on May 2.</span> ...
Hunt for bin Laden

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>In the hunt for bin Laden, the files show al-Libi provided critical information. The CIA used so-called enhanced-interrogation techniques on al-Libi</span> but did not subject him to waterboarding — the most controversial of techniques, which also included stress positions, slapping, shaking and dousing captives with cold water.

“In July 2003, [al Libi] received a letter from designated courier, Maulawi Abd al-Khaliq Jan, requesting detainee take on the responsibility of collecting donations, organizing travel and distributing funds to families in Pakistan,” the document stated.

“[Bin Laden] stated detainee would be the official messenger between [bin Laden] and others in Pakistan. In mid-2003, detainee moved his family to Abbottabad, PK, and worked between Abbottabad and Peshawar.”

U.S. officials said the name provided to interrogators was false. But the intelligence added to the other bits of data that helped the U.S. learn how bin Laden planned to direct al Qaeda from Pakistan, the real name of his special courier and the connection of the group to Abbottabad, where the courier moved around 2006.

The courier, who eventually led the U.S. to the compound unwittingly, was killed in the raid. The Obama administration has not identified that person’s name.

Other plots

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>[b]An earlier declassified CIA report on Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed reveals that he disclosed the identities of several operatives and the status of a number of planned attacks.

One plan called for commandeering commercial airliners at London’s Heathrow Airport. Authorities broke up the plot.

Mohammed was one of three al Qaeda leaders waterboarded by the CIA. The Bush administration called it part of “enhanced” interrogations. The Obama administration has labeled it “torture.”

The leaked detainee files show that other ranking al Qaeda operatives provided a first-ever look inside the al Qaeda killing machine:

• Ramzi Bin al-Shibh revealed how operatives gained visas to enter the West, often by gaining acceptance to an educational institute. If they were denied visas at U.S. embassies in the Middle East, they would try to gain entrance to Europe and apply from there.

• A terrorist identified as Hambali, the leader of the al Qaeda-funded Islamiyah network in South Asia, provided extensive information on his terrorist contacts in Indonesia. Responsible for the 2002 Bali bombing that killed more than 200, Hambali disclosed the existence of the “Infraq Fisabillah” fund used to finance travel by terrorists to and from Pakistan for training.

• Abu Zubaydah, another high-ranking bin Laden aide, provided a wealth of information on al Qaeda’s ability to forge documents used to gain access to the West. Zubaydah, for example, forged medical files to show that a terrorist had been tortured. The supposed victims then used the phony medical history to gain political asylum in Europe or the United States.

“Detainee has intimate knowledge of al Qaeda’s use of a document committee for forging documents such as identification cards, visas, and passports,” the Zubaydah file states, adding, “Detainee has provided a wealth of information on terrorist organizations. He has provided intelligence on their operations and leadership. Detainee continues to be a valuable source of intelligence for operations still occurring today.”

• Mohammed Abdah al-Nashiri, another close bin Laden aide, operated a separate al Qaeda operation in Yemen that received aid from Yemeni security forces. The revelation showed that, as in Pakistan, a U.S. ally supposedly working with the West actually was helping the enemy.

One of three al Qaeda captives waterboarded, Nashiri provided the names of a number of operatives still in the field.</span>

Broad consensus

It is not just Bush administration supporters who say interrogations of terrorist suspects at Gitmo and other venues worked.

Asked on NBC News whether enhanced interrogations, including waterboarding, produced information that helped find bin Laden, CIA Director Leon E. Panetta said: “In the intelligence business, you work from a lot of sources of information, and that was true here.”

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Mr. Panetta said: “We had a multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to the situation. Clearly, some of it came from detainees and the interrogation of detainees, but we also had information from other sources as well.”</span>

Asked whether he would deny that waterboarding produced critical information on bin Laden, Mr. Panetta answered said he would not. ...

Mr. Panetta opposed Mr. Holder’s decision to open a criminal investigation into the CIA interrogators.

The debate over the use of “enhanced” interrogation techniques has raged on Capitol Hill since Mr. Bush initiated the tactics, the most famous of which was waterboarding, and said Geneva Convention rules apply only to signing parties and thus not to stateless terrorists in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.

Even though leaders from both parties were briefed on the practices as early as 2002, leading Democrats derided their use as reports of secret prisons emerged around 2006.

In 2007, Mr. Bush signed an executive order prohibiting cruel and inhumane treatment, humiliation or denigration of prisoners’ religious beliefs. After taking office in 2009, Mr. Obama dubbed some of the techniques torture, closed the secret prison system and said the administration would abide by the Geneva Conventions. </div></div>

LEFTIST POLITICS (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/19/wikileaks-bolsters-argument-for-enhanced-interroga/?page=3) leads people to believe ridiculous things.