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Gayle in MD
05-26-2011, 09:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WASHINGTON -- A Wisconsin judge struck down the state's controversial anti-collective bargaining law on Thursday, but Democratic state senators say that doesn't mean the measure won't still go into effect.

Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi ruled that Republican legislators violated Wisconsin's open meeting law when passing the measure, which strips most public employees in the state of collective bargaining rights. A March 9 committee meeting on the measure, concluded Sumi, was "held on less than two hours notice in a location that was not open and accessible to citizens."

"Judge Sumi's ruling today speaks for itself, the Republicans' actions violated the law," said state Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona) in a statement. "Today we see the price of the Republicans refusing to negotiate and putting their partisan political advantage ahead of the best interests of the people of Wisconsin."

Senate Republicans rushed to pass the anti-union bill on March 9, while their Democratic colleagues were still out of town. Democrats had left the state to deny their Republican colleagues the quorum needed to pass budget-related measures. But in an unexpected move, Walker and the Republican lawmakers split their bill into two, allowing the non-budget collective bargaining measure to fly through with no Democrats in the room.

The state Supreme Court has scheduled arguments for June 6 to determine whether it will take the case. If it decides to do so, both Republicans and Democrats widely believe that based on the court's ideological make-up, the law will be upheld.

"If [Republicans] can get a Supreme Court appeal, I know we'll lose on that," said state Sen. Tim Carpenter (D-Milwaukee).

But it may not even make it that far; Republicans may not be able to appeal to higher courts in this instance. That's because, as a Democratic state Senate aide explained, Republicans asserted legislative immunity so they would not be party to the case when it was initially considered. Democrats, instead, took up the defense, so as to allow a legal challenge to come forward.


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And, the recall of three Republicans will go forward, in July.

Months have gone by since Walker illegally signed the Bill, and so far, it has gone nowhere.

Additionally, some of the Republican Senators, are beginning to be leary of signing the bill.

Walkers approval numbers, BTW, are crashing.

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Qtec
05-27-2011, 03:25 AM
Geez, the RW complain about Obama's 'Czars' but ignore the mini-Hitlers among them. They think because they won an election on false pretences, by a very small margin, that gives them the power to rule as they please.

According to the GOP, the US HAD to pay bonus's to the Wall St elite - even when the tax payer was bailing them out- because it was in their contract, and if you break a contract then all you have is anarchy.

Then Walker goes ahead and declares all agreements with the Unions null and void.

Q

Stretch
05-27-2011, 04:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Geez, the RW complain about Obama's 'Czars' but ignore the mini-Hitlers among them. They think because they won an election on false pretences, by a very small margin, that gives them the power to rule as they please.

According to the GOP, the US HAD to pay bonus's to the Wall St elite - even when the tax payer was bailing them out- because it was in their contract, and if you break a contract then all you have is anarchy.

Good point Q. I guess contracts with bankers are writen in blood while contracts with Unions are writen in invisible ink! St.

Then Walker goes ahead and declares all agreements with the Unions null and void.

Q </div></div>

Gayle in MD
05-27-2011, 08:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Geez, the RW complain about Obama's 'Czars' but ignore the mini-Hitlers among them. They think because they won an election on false pretences, by a very small margin, that gives them the power to rule as they please.

According to the GOP, the US HAD to pay bonus's to the Wall St elite - even when the tax payer was bailing them out- because it was in their contract, and if you break a contract then all you have is anarchy.

Then Walker goes ahead and declares all agreements with the Unions null and void.

Q </div></div>

Typical of the fascist thinking RW un-American, Reagan/Freidman, Fascist ideologies, as they continue to build their "Shock Doctrine" for their coming "1984" of the tewnty-first century.

It is the right, who are invading other people's lives and bodies. It is the right, which is all about destroying freedom of speech, for American workkers across this country, whose right to a clean, safe working environment, and decent pay, among other labor rights, are destroyed. The right, inside of our bedrooms, work offices, spying on our activities in our private life, inside our uteruses, destroying the democratic principles which go all the way back to Greece, way, way B.C.~!

I'm just thrilled to see his numbers sliding into the ditch, and his actions labeled as illegal, along with all of the other "Favored" RW Governors.

It's to the advantage of the right, to represent those foreign interests that they're all hooked up with. They like to spread the lie, that AMerican Workers, can't compete! that is for their favored, multi-national corporations, who hide the profits, off shore, and outsource our jobs.

Wasn't it McCain, who stood in Detroit, and said, "Your jobs are not coming back!"

Look at what's happening there now, thanks to a President, who believes in the American Workers in this country, and their riight to organize, and negotiate.

the right, always accuses the left, of their own disgraceful hidden intentions.

Who is really throwing Grandma, under the bus???

Who has really stolen, or seeking to steal, and break America's SS and Medicare contract with those who have paid for it for decades out of their paychecks?

Which Party has failed to answer the call of desperate Americans, as they are suffering from catastrophic "Acts Of God"?


They're not Christians, they're PIGS!
G.

eg8r
05-28-2011, 10:03 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A Wisconsin judge struck down the state's controversial anti-collective bargaining law on Thursday, but Democratic state senators say that doesn't mean the measure won't still go into effect.
</div></div>LOL, the first paragraph is the most important.

eg8r

Sev
05-28-2011, 10:41 AM
Just remember Obama is leading the pack in ignoring the courts.

Gayle in MD
05-28-2011, 11:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A Wisconsin judge struck down the state's controversial anti-collective bargaining law on Thursday, but Democratic state senators say that doesn't mean the measure won't still go into effect.
</div></div>LOL, the first paragraph is the most important.

eg8r </div></div>

Well, you are inflating, as usual.

Obviously, Democratic representatives have fought for workers rights, in their state, and they don't want them to begin to feel the battle has been won, hence, the words you quoted.

The Governor, will not be able to push the vote through, without the public watching, and allowed to watch, and without tje representatives from both parties, there, and able to vote.

What he did was illegal, and sneaky. that is the point of the thread, that and the FACT, that his illegal actions, have been struck down, by a judge in the state.

There is also some idication, as the article addressed, that some of the Republican representatives are wavering on their original votes.

And further, the possibility of the recall, of three Republiocan Representatives, changing the majority from right, to left.

And also, a recall on the Governor, after the mandatorry number of months have passed.

So, as you can see, there are a number of peripheral issues, still to be resolved. IOWS&lt; it also deosn't meant that it will pass, either.

So what's so funny? The fact that you're trying to exaggerate and infalte that sentence into a meaning, that wasn't even there?

Sorry, you didn't get it.

G.

Soflasnapper
05-29-2011, 08:18 PM
To be more correct, these actions were taken by the Wisconsin Senate and Assembly, under the control of those two brothers, not by the slightly cross-eyed governor (although I'm guessing he had input and agreed with the strategies used).

eg8r
05-29-2011, 08:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, you are inflating, as usual.
</div></div>I am not inflating anything but actually quoting what you quoted word for word. If you didn't like what it said you probably should not have quoted it.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-31-2011, 07:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To be more correct, these actions were taken by the Wisconsin Senate and Assembly, under the control of those two brothers, not by the slightly cross-eyed governor (although I'm guessing he had input and agreed with the strategies used).

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Exactly. The Kock Brothers, are running Wisconsin, as we heard with our own ears, in that famous telephone conversation, and we heard as well, that Walker is definitely ON THE TAKE, from Koch, like all Repiglicans.

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Gayle in MD
05-31-2011, 08:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, you are inflating, as usual.
</div></div>I am not inflating anything but actually quoting what you quoted word for word. If you didn't like what it said you probably should not have quoted it.

eg8r </div></div>

The first paragraph is NOT the most important, to me, because you are applying a meaning to it, that is incorrect, and you don't speak for me, you just have your usual RW NEED, to minimize any gains by Democratics.

And, in fact, I would say the most important thing right now, is the fact that Repiglican Governors, in general, are crashing in the polls, including the one in your state...


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pooltchr
05-31-2011, 08:07 AM
If you don't know anything else about writing and journalism, you should know that the first paragraph contains the key information for the rest of the article.

Steve

eg8r
05-31-2011, 08:54 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The first paragraph is NOT the most important, to me,</div></div>This is only because you did not like the reality and truth it told. Just because it IS the most important and I pointed it out does not mean I am inflating anything but rather pointing out the part you did not like.

"Struck down in court" does not have the effect you wanted when it is clearly pointed out at the beginning that it will still move forward as designed.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
05-31-2011, 09:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The first paragraph is NOT the most important, to me,</div></div>This is only because you did not like the reality and truth it told. Just because it IS the most important and I pointed it out does not mean I am inflating anything but rather pointing out the part you did not like.

"Struck down in court" does not have the effect you wanted when it is clearly pointed out at the beginning that it will still move forward as designed.

eg8r </div></div>


Not necessarily, Ed, and that is not what the first paragraph says, at all.

In fact, IMO, Democratics are not going to tell their followers, that it's in the bag.

They want to keep the people in Wisconsin, fired up about what this governor is doing to worker's rights.

Politically speaking, you're way off the beam on this paragraph, and the real meaning of it. You're twisting it, as you usually do.

G.