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Gayle in MD
06-02-2011, 07:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Michele Bachmann, as virtually everyone knows, is currently deciding whether she's going to make a run for the Tea Party, oops, I meant to say, Republican, nomination for president. What most don't know, though, is that her educational policies are being challenged by an amazing high school student from Baton Rouge, La. You should get to know this student, Zack Kopplin, and his efforts because he's likely to make a difference.

I've written about Zack previously because both his story and his commitment are incredibly impressive. As I first noted, he recently began an effort to repeal an atrocious stealth-creationism law in Louisiana. The law, the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008, encourages attacks on evolution to be taught in Louisiana's public schools under the banner of critical thinking. This is the only state law of its sort in the country and, as Zack so well points out, Louisiana students interested in science are being done a huge disservice by its very existence.

Zack hasn't been content to simply complain about an educationally irresponsible law, however. His organizational skills have been nothing short of phenomenal and he's gathered a collection of supporters second to none. His repeal effort has been endorsed by the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the largest general science organization in the world with over 10 million members; the National Association of Biology Teachers, the country's main organization for biological educators; The Clergy Letter Project, an organization of more than 14,000 clergy and scientists recognizing that religion and science need not be in conflict; as well as a host of other scientific groups including the American Institute for Biological Sciences, The American Society for Cell Biology, the Society for the Study of Evolution, The Society of Vertebrate Paleontology and The American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. Additionally, the New Orleans City Council voted unanimously to support the repeal.

Zack's work didn't stop there. He wrote a petition that was adopted as Change.org's featured one of the week where it has amassed more than 65,000 supporters. And, as I reported in April, in his most extraordinary effort, he collected the endorsement of 43 individuals who won a Nobel Prize in science.

Which brings me back to Michele Bachmann. Not only is Bachmann a fan of creationism and its anti-intellectual offshoot, intelligent design, she's made some outlandish claims about the pseudoscientific subject. For example, she's asserted, "there is a controversy among scientists about whether evolution is a fact ... hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel prizes, believe in intelligent design."

Zack has now challenged Bachmann on her claims. Using a poker analogy and the huge number of scientists who have endorsed evolution, in general, and his repeal effort, in particular, Zack has written, "Congresswoman Bachmann, I see your 'hundreds' of scientists, and raise you millions of scientists."

Given the strength of the hand he has, he doesn't stop there.

For the next hand, I raise you 43 Nobel Laureate scientists. That's right: 43 Nobel Laureate scientists have endorsed our effort to repeal Louisiana's creationism law. ... Congresswoman Bachmann, you claim that Nobel Laureates support creationism. Show me your hand. If you want to be taken seriously by voters while you run for President, back up your claims with facts. Can you match 43 Nobel Laureates, or do you fold?
It would be difficult for someone with a sincere interest in science education not to take Zack Kopplin's challenge seriously. Having said that, I fully expect that Michele Bachmann will completely ignore Zack, the voice of the scientific community, the combined pleas of 43 Nobel scientists and thousands of religious leaders.

All of this reminds me of a Sunday afternoon a couple of years ago when I was in Lambeau Field with my two sons watching the Packers play the Bears. After a controversial and costly penalty was called against the Packers, the referee began to give a convoluted explanation of his ruling. The entire crowd of 73,000 plus was completely silent while the odd explanation was being delivered over the PA system. Then, all of a sudden, one fan with a booming voice that could be heard throughout the entire stadium shouted, "Stop making shit up!"

Representative Bachmann, I urge you to pay attention to that fan.



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moblsv
06-02-2011, 08:17 AM
It's not just the students interested in science who are being done a disservice. This is about undermining reason, about changing the country into a Christian Nation, about intolerance, about tribal warfare. We can not be displacing reason with this nonsense, and drumming it into the heads of our youth, without seriously undermining the very fabric of society, our history and our future.

eg8r
06-02-2011, 09:03 AM
Well actually you have everything backwards but nothing has changed there has it.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-02-2011, 09:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: moblsv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not just the students interested in science who are being done a disservice. This is about undermining reason, about changing the country into a Christian Nation, about intolerance, about tribal warfare. We can not be displacing reason with this nonsense, and drumming it into the heads of our youth, without seriously undermining the very fabric of society, our history and our future.
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Precisely! Excellent post.

Between their failure to understand science, annd their failure to grasp the connections between the extended economic difficulties, and the relationship of unemployment, and the impact, fundamentally, of the new global economy, with all of its challenges, and implications, we're doomed by RW flyovers, so easily led by their noses, because of their religious dogma, and their lack of intellectual curiosity about the world!

They don't read books!!! They just tune into their ministers, cling to their assault weapons, and vote for people as nutty as Rush, Beck, Palin, Trump, Bachmann, OMG!

If you're not a Christian fundamentalist, or a total anarchist, or a religious wannabe dictator, or a slurpping fool for rewritten history, you can't be a Republican candidate, at all!

Big problem!

I would NEVER vote, for anyone, who believves that their religion, gives them a right to dictate to, and judge the personal, private family decisions of all others in our country.

I would NEVER vote for someone who denies The Theory Of Evolution!!!

I would never vote for anyone in the Republican Party, because they manipulate those who are uneducated, and uninformed, with lies annd slander, and they do it for the same reasons that the "End Times" idiot does it, cash in their pockets!

G.

pooltchr
06-02-2011, 11:51 AM
What possible childhood trama could cause such lack of critical thinking abilities, and create an environment to grow such hatred?

Were you scared by a clown as a child?

Steve

Gayle in MD
06-02-2011, 01:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What possible childhood trama could cause such lack of critical thinking abilities, and create an environment to grow such hatred?

Were you scared by a clown as a child?

Steve </div></div>

Stuff it Bubba!

moblsv
06-02-2011, 02:45 PM
Religion is, without a doubt, the number one childhood trauma inhibiting the development of Critical Thinking skills.

Gayle in MD
06-03-2011, 07:51 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: moblsv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Religion is, without a doubt, the number one childhood trauma inhibiting the development of Critical Thinking skills. </div></div>

Absolutely!

First demand, suspend critical thinking skills.

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Very concerning that Bachmann is but one of the RW attacking our Constitutional rights.

There are so many other Republican Governors out there, impinging
on the Constitutional Rights of our citizens, and using organized religion, to justify their attack on everything that made this country a great country, a country which was designed to insure the separation of church and state.

The "Dog Whistle" Republican approach to politics, and campaigning, has divided the country, and reduced the entire process of campaigning to a side show of circus style communication.

Religious Dog whistle campaigning, threatens not only everything that made our country a great country, originally, but additionally creates a huge distraction from addressing the real and pressing issues to anachronistic ideologies.

It is truly disturbing to those of us who understand the importance of investing in education in our country, under the rather recent conditions prevailing, as we try to adjust, economically, and endeavor to move forward in a global economy, with our educational system, and the teachers of America, under attack by organized religion, and the Repulican Party.

Very sad, and very dangerous to the future of education for generations to come, including current students, to for economic stability going forward.

G.

LWW
06-03-2011, 08:16 AM
Really?

Would you mind explaining how you believe the universe came into being according to the best scientific data?

I warn you ... this is a trap that many leftists have walked into.