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Gayle in MD
06-03-2011, 09:53 AM
<span style="color: #990000">This guy campaigned on saying he refused to use any stimulus money.

Is there a single Repiglican Governor who bashed the stimulus, but didn't use it himself?

I don't know of a single one. </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif



Gov. Rick Scott campaigned against President Obama’s “failed stimulus” program – yet the freshman politician kept nearly $370 million of the federal cash in the Florida budget he signed last week.
Scott’s decision to keep the stimulus money stands out in a year when the governor touted record budget vetoes of up to $615 million. He emphasized the vetoes of “wasteful” spending at a Thursday event that featured a campaign-style “Promises Made, Promises Kept” banner.

But as he ran for office last summer, Scott said he “would fight all the stimulus money.” He also told reporters “I would have figured out how to balance the budget without it.”

When asked Tuesday why he appeared to reverse himself by keeping stimulus money, Scott didn’t specifically answer.

“I think the stimulus was not good for our state, made us more dependent on the federal government,” he said, echoing a budget-signing letter he issued last week. “I think that we’ve got to watch how we spend money. As you know, in the budget, I focused very much on how we spend our money, stopping the growth of debt in our state and making our state less dependent on the federal government.”

The stimulus money Scott and Republican legislators approved touch every corner of the state: $290 million to improve electronic medical records, $4.2 million to aid disadvantaged children, $3.2 million for fighting wildfires, $12.5 million for drug courts, $8.6 million for county health departments, $1 million to fight infectious diseases, and $4.4 million to help public defenders and prosecutors.

The bulk of the stimulus, called the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, was appropriated by the Legislature in previous years. The act is specifically referenced 66 times in the budget.

For 61 of the line items, the Legislature appropriated a specific amount of stimulus money that totals almost $343 million.

In five other sections, the Legislature re-appropriates previous money but doesn’t list the exact amount. According to the Senate, those sections total about $26.8 million.

In all, Florida is on pace to have spent about $24.2 billion of the $787 billion stimulus package. Florida’s share would have been higher, but Scott unexpectedly refused $2.4 billion to build a high-speed rail line linking Tampa and Orlando. Like the rejection of the rail money, he and lawmakers could have refused to spend the $370 million in federal funds.

Unlike in the current and prior budget year, none of the stimulus money will directly help the state balance its $69.1 billion budget. That enables Scott to make good on his campaign promise to not use “one-time money” to balance the budget. Still, without the money, government would be slightly smaller in Florida.

Most of the money he tacitly approved amounts to stimulus leftovers and pass-through grants that help various governmental agencies with specific tasks, such as the $41,000 that the Office of Statewide Prosecution has awarded to the Hillsborough County State Attorney to prosecute gangs. A spokesperson for Attorney General Pam Bondi, a former Hillsborough prosecutor, said the program has been effective.

In Miami-Dade, the state attorney’s office said the $2.3 million it received is designated for prosecuting mortgage fraud. Still, the federal money relieves pressure on the state budget and makes it easier for the Miami-Dade office to do its job.

“The major expense of criminal prosecutions is always staff money that allows you to field prosecutors and support staff. And that helps you fight the crime,” said Mike Griffith, spokesman for the office.

The biggest chunk of the money, about 85 percent, is earmarked for Medicaid hospitals, doctors and other providers to help them make electronic medical records.

The Democratic leader in the state Senate, Nan Rich of Weston, sits on her chamber’s health budget committee and said the electronic records are “vital” to improving healthcare in the state. Rich said Scott’s decision to keep the stimulus shows that the money is needed.

“I’m very happy he didn’t keep his promise on the stimulus,” Rich chuckled.

“It shows it’s harder to govern than to use rhetoric on the campaign trail. It’s easy to say it — that you’re going to eliminate it. But then, when you have to cut, it’s not so easy to give up money that belongs to Florida.”

Scott has been accused of hypocrisy over the stimulus before. During the campaign, he was attacked for bashing the stimulus while holding a financial interest in a telecommunications company that won a stimulus grant.

Scott made some tough cuts in the budget Thursday when he vetoed money for environmental programs, seniors and veterans. Scott boasted at the time of going through “3,036 line items in the budget. I know this because I looked at every single line item.”

On Tuesday, his first day to take a few questions from reporters in the state capital, Scott didn’t explain why he decided to keep the stimulus money and said he couldn’t recall the line items for it.

“You go through every line you can and figure out where it builds jobs, where it hurts jobs. And that’s sort of the filter I went through,” Scott responded.

Does that mean he kept stimulus money he equated with job creation? Scott wouldn’t say.

“It’s a mistake. That’s taxpayer money,” Scott responded. “And I think we have to watch we spend all that money, both at the state level and at the federal level.”





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eg8r
06-03-2011, 10:35 AM
I am glad he refused the money for the train we don't need.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
06-03-2011, 11:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am glad he refused the money for the train we don't need.

eg8r </div></div>

Most in Florida were pretty angry with him, over that, according to my reading.

That project was ready to go, and many who drive that highway, have told me how bad the traffic is, particularly during morning and evening commutes.

I got cuaght in a back up there myself, and when they happened, they were long backups, according my many of my own friends, and relatives, who live on the Gulf Coast.

In fact, I thought I read a post by you,.... something negative about that stip of highway, yourself, to Sack.

Also, a friend of mine is with Florida's Tourism, and told me how great that high speed train would have been in that regard, since it was supposed to eventually go all the way to the east coast of Florida, according to him.

His opinion was that it would have been great for Florida Tourism, and for jobs now, in their slump, one of the worst in the country.

G.

pooltchr
06-03-2011, 11:32 AM
As a general rule, tourists don't use trains. The people who are vacationing in FL generally have their car. If they wanted to take a day trip from ORL to TPA, they are going to drive. The problem with trains is that once you get to your destination, you still need a car at the other end. So, realistically, high speed trains would be more for commuters than for tourists. And I have to wonder how many people commute from Tampa to Orlando for work.

Steve

Gayle in MD
06-03-2011, 12:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pooltchr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As a general rule, tourists don't use trains. The people who are vacationing in FL generally have their car. If they wanted to take a day trip from ORL to TPA, they are going to drive. The problem with trains is that once you get to your destination, you still need a car at the other end. So, realistically, high speed trains would be more for commuters than for tourists. And I have to wonder how many people commute from Tampa to Orlando for work.

Steve </div></div>

I'm sure you won't mind if I take the word of my friend with Florida's Tourism, over that of a Pooltchr.

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I have friends and family in Tampa, St.Pete's in fact, all over the state. I can't count the number of times I have heard horror stories about that stip of highway, including my own experiences.

I'm sure many vacationing on one coast, would be more than trilled to take a trip to the other coast, board a bus, see some attractions, and return to their lodgings later, or even the next day, in order to see more of the state during their visit.


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eg8r
06-03-2011, 01:14 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most in Florida were pretty angry with him, over that, according to my reading.
</div></div>Yep, it was greed and short-sightedness for sure. People were looking for a job today and not their livelihood in the future. Actually, they just thought if he took the money then that would somehow benefit them but as we all know that never happens. One thing for sure, when his decisions are right I will support them and when they are wrong I will voice them.

That train was going to be a giant strain on our economy. Absolutely huge strain. A friend of mine is one of the top GIS experts in the state and is frequently contracted on to map this type of stuff for FDOT. His firm was deeply upset at this decision but those are the guys making the real money and their interests are not always in the best of the Floridian economy. What happens when the Federal money runs short, like every single government project known to man? Who has to come up with the money for a train that will not be utlilized as forcasted? For now, not me. Good decision Scott.

eg8r

eg8r

pooltchr
06-03-2011, 01:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[I'm sure you won't mind if I take the word of my friend with Florida's Tourism, over that of a Pooltchr.


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Of course I don't mind. I would expect nothing less than seeing you take the word of someone who agrees with you over a common sense evaluation that doesn't support your half baked leftist views.

You have my permission to be a blind partisan hack.

Steve

eg8r
06-03-2011, 01:18 PM
Nope this is not Europe. The tourism industry was looking for their kickback and if they could sneak their way in then they would be posturing for a portion of the taxes to flow their way. Ignoring the tourism industry and referring to the GIS experts who do all the mapping, this would have been a boon for the Airport (employees and tourists) and commuters back and forth across the state. There just was not enough justification that demand would ever come close to forcast let alone the fact that the state is already broke and the federal money would not cover 100%.

eg8r

eg8r
06-03-2011, 01:22 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure you won't mind if I take the word of my friend with Florida's Tourism, over that of a Pooltchr.
</div></div>And there is your snarky attitude for no reason. Ask your tourism friend who the GIS professionals are that are providing all the databases for this project, 5yr, 10yr etc.

I-4 sucks but you don't live here so you don't understand THE REST OF OUR MASS TRANSIT ISSUES!!! All you know is the pain of rush hour traffic on I4. Orlando was not designed like DC, NYC, etc where mass transit or walking is a way of life. What happens when you work in Altamonte Springs but the train stops at the Airport? What are you now going to do for the other 20 mile long trip? Yeah you made it to OIA in record time, but now you are going to pay a fortune for a taxi from point B to point C. No chance of using a bus because it will take a minimum 3 hours and two bus changes. Good luck with that.

eg8r

pooltchr
06-03-2011, 01:23 PM
I know. We are going through the same exact issue here in NC. They want to build a high speed rail line between Charlotte and Raleigh that will shave 13 minutes off the present rail trip. Of course, nobody rides the one we have, and the state would be on the hook for all the costs not covered by the slush fu....er...stimulus money.

Steve

eg8r
06-03-2011, 01:30 PM
I am not against having a high speed rail. My family prefers the west coast of Florida. It would be nice to shave two hours off that trip but at the expense they are talking about it is crazy. There are better ways to create jobs than building a train from Tampa to Orlando for a select few who would actually pay the premium price to ride.


eg8r

LWW
06-03-2011, 02:11 PM
THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw) seems to be a good place for a related link.