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llotter
06-21-2011, 06:38 PM
Gosh, it came as a great surprise to learn today that the death total in Afghanistan during GW's term as CiC was 638 over those 7 years but the total in that war since The Moron took office just hit 1000. It came as a surprise because what used to be a daily exercise in reporting soldier deaths, and holding GW responsible for each one, has suddenly become unworthy of hardly any mention at all.

Anyone else here as surprised a I am?

Soflasnapper
06-21-2011, 06:54 PM
Absolutely not surprised.

1) Even the far greater IRAQ deaths during Bush's term became 'old news' that was left unmentioned after a while, and probably this inattention in terms of headlines started before his first term ended

2) Since he wholly shifted the focus away from Afghanistan to wage the war in Iraq, fairly little was done there in his time, resulting in ignoring death tolls in Afghanistan for those in Iraq, for the time period the media headlined death totals, and

3) Obama has ratcheted up the Afghanistan effort, including far greater numbers of troops, far greater numbers of drone strike kills, etc. Pushing up the number of servicemen and women in country and ratcheting up their activity exposes far more to attack, injury, and death. What would one expect to happen when a simmering pot on the back burner is brought forward to a fuller boil?

4) Lastly, of course, Obama didn't start these wars, or low-ball their costs and casualties-- that was W and crew.

llotter
06-21-2011, 08:21 PM
Nice rationalization, though frankly too over the top to be taken seriously. I'm pretty sure, however, that most will be as surprised as I was to realize those totals.

Qtec
06-22-2011, 12:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice rationalization, though frankly too over the top to be taken seriously. <u>I'm pretty sure, however, that most will be as surprised as I was to realize those totals.</u> </div></div>

Eh,.........no. Now you have troops on the ground engaging the enemy instead of guys flying remote drones from DC .

Q

LWW
06-22-2011, 04:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice rationalization, though frankly too over the top to be taken seriously. I'm pretty sure, however, that most will be as surprised as I was to realize those totals. </div></div>

In his defense ... it is the regime's official position.

LWW
06-22-2011, 04:36 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice rationalization, though frankly too over the top to be taken seriously. I'm pretty sure, however, that most will be as surprised as I was to realize those totals. </div></div>

I'm not surprised in the least.

Now, before the far left gets away with treating the fallen as stage props ... only to be drug out when it fits the agenda ... let us never forget:

Matthew Pollini, 21, Mass
Kyle Harrington, 24, Mass
Julian Brennan, 25, NY
Grant Cotting, 19, CA-One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
David Wallace, 25, PA
Trevor Johnson, 23, Mont
Philip Windorski, 35, MN
Matthew Kelley, 30, MO
Joshua Tillery, 31, Ore
Benjamin Todd, 29, WA
Milton Suggs, 51, LA
Darrell Fernandez, 25, NM
James Dorsey, 23, IL
Christopher Sweet, 28, HA
Theophilus K. Ansong, 34, lost at sea, VA
Jason Burkholder, 27, OH
Jared Southworth, 26, IL
Kevin Preach, 21, MA
Peter Courcy, 22, TX
Jason Watson, 19, LA-One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Garnet Derby, 44, Mont
Joshua Ward, 30, KY
Albert Jex, 23, AZ
Jonathan Roberge, 22, Mass
Marc Small, 29, PA
Daniel L. Hansen, 24, CA
Sean Diamond, 41, CA
Stephen Thompson, 23, OK
Raymond Munden, 35, TX
Cwislyn Walter, 19, HA-One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Timothy Davis, 28, Wash
Jeremy Bessa, 26, IL
David Hurt, 36, AZ
Mark Baum, 32, PA
Michael Mayne, 21, NY
Michael Alleman, 31, Utah
Zachary Nordmeyer, 21, IN
William Emmert, 36, TN
Brian Bunting, 29, MD
Schuyler Patch, 25, OK
Scott Stream, 39, IL
Daniel Thompson, 24, WI
Brian Connelly, 26, NJ
Simone Robinson, 21, IL
Donte Whitworth, 21, IN
Jeffrey Reed, 23, VA
Jessica Sarandrea, 22, FL
Daniel Hyde, 24, CA
Patrick Devoe, 27, NY
Patrick Malone, 21, FL
Theophilus Anson, 34, VA
Timothy Bowles, 24 AZ
Archie Taylor, 37, TX
Christopher Abeyta, 23, IL
Robert Weinger, 24, IL
Norman Cain III, 22, IL
Gary Moore, 25, OK
Daniel Geary, 22, NY
Adam Hardt, 19, AZ-One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Anthony Williams, 21, PA
Michael Ouellette, 28, NH
Jose Escobedo Jr., 32, NM
Raphael Futrell, 26, SC
Florence Choe, 35, CA
Francis Toner IV, 26. RI
Nelson Lantigua, 20, FL
Devin Poche, 25, NC
Phillip Myers, 30, VA
Israel Mejias, 28, Puerto Rico
Daniel Beard, 24, NY
Adam Kuligowski, 21, VA
Stephen Dearmon, 21, TN
Blaise Oleski, 22, NY
Jacob Ramsey, 20, CA
Gary Woods, 24, KY
Bryan Hall, 32, CA
Edward Forrest, Jr., 25, MO
Jason Pautsch, 20, IA
Bryce Gautier, 22, CA
Michael Anaya, 23, FL
Raul Moncada, 29, CA
Francisco Aguila, 35, Puerto Rico
Richard Dewater, 21, Kansas
Ray Spencer II, 20, CA
William Comstock, 21, AR
Brad Davis, 21, OH
Benjamin Moore, Jr., 43, GA
Leroy Webster, 28, SD
Tyler Trahan, 22, Mass.
James Mcllvaine, 26, MD
Mark Wojciechowski, 25, OH
Christopher Loza, 29, TX
James Pirtle, 21, CO
Ryan King, 22, GA
Jeremiah McCleery, 24, CA
Jake Velloza, 22, CA
William Vile, 27, PA
Shawn Sykes, 28, VA
Justin Hartford, 21, NY
Randy Agno, 29, Hawaii- non-combat related incident
Charles Springle, 52, NC – non-combat related incident
Omar Albrak, 21, IL Albrak and Saczek were the 100th and 101st military deaths reported (other earlier deaths were reported later) since 1/20/09
Lukasz Saczek, 23, IL – non-combat related incident Albrak and Saczek were the 100th and 101st military deaths reported (other earlier deaths were reported later) since 1/20/09
Matthew Houseal, 54, TX- non-combat related incident-
Christian Bueno-Galdos, 25, NJ – non-combat related incident
Jacob Barton, 20, MO – non-combat related incident
Michael Yates, 19, MD – non-combat related incident – One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Steven Hutchison, 60, AZ – Oldest Soldier to die since 1/20/09
Ryan McGhee, 21, VA
Roslyn Schulte, 25, MO
Paul Brooks, 34, MO
David A. Schaefer, Jr., 27, IL
Leevi Barnard, 28, NC
Jason George, 38, CA
Brent Cole, 38, VA
Brian Naseman, 36, WI
Mark Stratton II, 39, TX
Ashton Goodman, 21, IN
Duane Wolfe, 54, CA
Roslyn Littmann Schulte, 25, MO
Carlie M. Lee, III, 23, AL
Esau De La Pena-Hernandez, 25, CA
Blue C. Rowe, 33, AR
Maged M. Hussein, 43, Egyptian man fighting for the U.S.
Chad Edmundson, 20, PA
Bradley Iorio, 19, NJ
Thomas Lee, 20, GA
Samuel Stone, 20, WA
Marko Samson, 30, OH
Matthew Reza, 27, TX
Matthew Wilson, 19, MO-One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Matthew Ogden, 33, TX
Jeffrey Hall, 28, AL
Justin Duffy, 31, NE
Roberto Hernandez II, 21, NY
Jeffrey Jordan, 21, GA
John Beale, 39, GA
Kevin Jenrette, 37, GA
Jarrett Griemel, 20, TX – non-hostile incident
Jasper Obakrairur, 26, HA
Charles Parrish, 23, AL
Christopher Kurth, 23, NM
Robert Ulmer, 22, PA
Joshua Whittle, 20, CA
Rocco Barnes, 50, CA
Eduardo S. Silva, 25, CA -non-combat related incident
Ricky Richardson Jr., 33, MO
Edmond L. Lo, 23, NH
Jonathon O’Neill, 22, FL
Kafele Sims, 32, CA
Kevin Dupont, 52, MA
Joshua Soto, 25, TX
Joshua Melton, 26, IL
Paul Smith, 43, IL
Chancellor Keesling, 25, IN -non-combat related incident
Jeffrey Garber, 43, NE
Ricky D. Jones, 26, AL
Rodrigo Munguia Rivas, 27, MD
John D. Blair, 38, GA
Casey Hills, 23, IL
Brian Bradshaw, 24, WA
Joshua Hazlewood, 22, TX -non-combat related incident
Steven Drees, 19, WI-One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Peter Cross, 20, TX
Timothy David, 24, MI
Terry Lynch, 22, MT
Edward Kramer, 39, NC
Roger Adams, Jr., 36, NC
Juan Baldeosingh, 30, NC
Robert Bittiker, 39, NC
Justin Casillas, 19, CA – One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Aaron Fairbairn, 20, WA
Charles Sharp, 20, GA
Tony Randolph, 22, OK
Christopher Talbert, 24, IL
Nicolas Gideon, 20, CA
Mark Garner, 30, NC
Derwin Williams, 41, IL
Brock Chavers, 25, GA
Chester Hosford, 35, MN
Issac Johnson, 24, GA
Darren Ethan Tate, 21, TX – died of non-hostile causes
Michael Roy, 25, FL
Gregory Missman, 36, OH
Lucas Bragg, 19, MO – non-combat related incident, One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Joshua Farris, 22, TX
Matthew Lembke, 22, OR
Pedro Barbozaflores, 27, CA
Jerome Hatfield, 36, VA
Eric Lindstrom, 27, AZ
Rodney Jarvis, 34, OH- non-combat related incident
Michael Heede, Jr., 22, PA
David Spicer, 33, OH
Jason Fabrizi, 29, FL
Daniel Drevnick, 22, MN
James Wertish, 20, MN
Carlos Wilcox IV, 27, MN
Thomas Gramith, 27, MN
Mark McDowell, 26, CO
Brandon Lara, 20, TX
Benjamin Kopp, 21, MN
Gregory Owens, Jr., 24, TX
Anthony Lightfoot, 20, GA
Andrew Roughton, 21, TX
Dennis Pratt, 34, OK
Raymundo Morales, 34, GA
Joshua Rimer, 24, PA
Randy Neff, Jr., 22, ID
Jeremy Lasher, 27, NY
Ryan Lane, 25, PA
Herberth Berrios-Campos, 21, VA -non-combat related incident
Donald Vincent, 26, FL Vincent and Coleman were the 200th and 201st military deaths reported (other earlier deaths were reported later) since 1/20/09
Justin Coleman, 21, FL Vincent and Coleman were the 200th and 201st military deaths reported (other earlier deaths were reported later) since 1/20/09
Andrew Charpentier, 21, MT – non-combat death after becoming ill at Guantanamo
Gerrick Smith, 19, IL – One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Douglas Vose III, 38, WA
Gregory Posey, 22, TN
Jonathon Stroud, 20, OK
Johnny Polk, 39, MS
Nicholas George Xiarhos, 21, MA
Jonathan Walls, 27, PA
Richard Jones, 21, NC
Patrick Fitzgibbon, 19, TN -One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Alexander Miller, 21, FL
Ronald Luce, Jr., 27, NC
Alejandro Granado, 42, VA
Severin Summers III, 43, MS
Keiffer Wilhelm, 19, OH -non-combat related incident – One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Anthony Garcia, 21, FL
James Argentine, 22, NY
Travis Babine, 20, TX
Christian Guzman Rivera, 21, FL
Jay Hoskins, 24, TX
Matthew Freeman, 29, GA
Jerry Randall Evans, Jr., 23, AL
Tara J. Smith, 33, NC – non-combat related incident
Dennis Burrow, 23, FL
Javier Olvera, 20, CA
Patrick Schimmel, 21, MO
Matthew Swanson, 20, CA
Richard Walters, Jr., 41, OH – non-combat related incident
Bruce Ferrell, 21, AL
John Tinsley, 28, FL
William Cahir, 40, DC
Joshua Bernard, 21, Maine
Nicholas Roush, 22, MI
William Woods, Jr., 31, VA
Leopold Damas, 26, NY
Adam Benjamin, 34, OH
William Vanosdol, 23, AL
Matthew Hastings, 23, OK- non-combat related incident
Paul Dumont, Jr., 23, VA – non-combat related incident
Clayton Bowen, 29, TX
Morris Walker, 23, NC
Jose S.N. Crisostomo, 59, Guam
Brian Wolvertin, 21, CA
Justin Pellerin, 21, NH
Matthew Ingram, 25, MS
Troy Tom, 21, NM
Jonathan Yanney, 20, MN
Andrew Lobosco, 29, NJ
Joseph Fortin, 22, VT
Darby Morin, 25 – US Army Corporal from Victoria, Canada
Donald Hogan, 20, CA
John Hallett III, 30, CA
Cory Jenkins, 30, AZ
Ronald Sawyer, 38, MO
Dennis Williams, 24, WA
Matthew Wildes, 18, LA – The Youngest soldier to die since 1/20/09
Kurt Curtiss, 27, UT
Earl Werner, 38, WI
Taylor Marks, 19, OR -One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Abraham Wheeler III, 22, SC
Jason Dahlke, 29, FL
Eric Hario, 19, MI -One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Request for 40,000 more troops arrives from General McChrystal
David Hall, 31, OH
Jonathan Welch, 19, CA – One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Tyler R. Walshe, 21, CA
Jordon Brochu, 20, Maine (died before request for additional troops arrived)
Todd Selge, 25, MN
Jordon Shay, 22, MA (died before request for additional troops arrived)
Benjamin Castiglione, 21, MI
Christopher Baltazar, Jr., 19, TX – One of the Youngest Soldiers to die since 1/20/9
Darryn Andrews, 34, TX
Randy Haney, 27, FL
Michael Murphrey, 25, TX
Joseph Helton, 24, GA
Joshua Meadows, 30, TX
James Layton, 22, CA
Shannon Smith, 31, OH
Youvert Lohney, 28, Micronesia
Thomas Lyons, 20, NV
Zachary Myers, 21, OH
Edwin Johnson Jr., 31, GA
Michael Johnson, 25, VA
Aaron Kenefick, 30 GA
Christopher Fowlkes, 20, SC
Tyler Parten, 24, AR
Duane Thornsbury, 30 West Virginia
Tyler Juden, 23, Kansas
Nekl Allen, 29, NY
Daniel Cox, 23, Kansas
Matthew Martinek, 20, IL
Bryan Berky, 25, FL
Demetrius Void, 20, SC
David Wright II, 26, OK
Andrew McConnell, 24, PA
Robert Gordon, II, 22, AL
Bradley Bohle, 29, MD
Shawn McCloskey, 33, GA
Joshua Mills, 24, TX
Jeremiah Monroe, 31, NY
Matthew Courtois, 22, TX
Michael Cote, Jr., 20, LA
Damon Winkleman, 23, OH
Corey Kowall, 20, TN
David Davis, 28, TX- Davis was the 300th military deaths reported (other earlier deaths were reported later) since 1/20/09
William Meredith, 26, VA
James Hornbarger, 33, WA – death from a “non-hostile” incident
John Malone, 24, NY
Joseph White, 21, WA
Edward B. Smith, 30, FL
Titus Reynolds, 23, OH
Kevin Graham, 27, KY
Jordan Chrobot, 24, MD
Ross Vogel III, 27, PA
Alex French IV, 31, GA
Christopher Shaw, 37, IL
Jack Martin III, 26, OK
Russell Hercules, Jr., 22, TN
Ryan C. Adams, 26, WI
Roberto Sanchez, 24, FL
Aaron M. Smith, 25, Kansas
Brandon Owens, 21, TN
Thomas Rabjohn, 39, AZ
Paul Andersen, 49, MI
Tad Hervas, 48, MN
Alan H. Newton, Jr., 26, NC
Benjamin Sklaver, 32, MA
Vernon W. Martin, 25, GA
Justin T. Gallegos, 27, AZ
Joshua M. Hardt, 24, CA
Joshua J. Kirk, 30, Maine
Michael P. Scusa, 22, NJ
Christopher T. Griffin, 24, MI
Stephan L. Mace, 21, VA
Kevin C. Thomson, 22, NV
Aaron M. Smith, 25, KS
Brandon A. Owens, 21, TN
Kevin O. Hill, 23, NY
George Cauley, 24, MN
Kenneth W. Westbrook, 41, NM
Alfonso Ochoa, Jr., 20, CA
Aaron J. Taylor, 27, MN
Christopher Rudzinski, 28, IL
Chris Staats, 32, TX
Anthony Green, 28, NC
Glen H. Stivison, Jr., 34, PA
Jesus O. Flores, Jr., 28, CA
Daniel C. Lawson, 33, FL
Brandon M. Styer, 19, PA
Daniel J. Rivera, 22, NY
Michael A. Dahl, Jr., 23, CA
David R. Baker, 22, OH
Bradley Espinoza, 26, TX
Kyle Coumas, 22, CA
Eric N. Lembke, 25, FL
Kimble A. Han, 30, UT
Gregory M.W. Fleury, 23, AK
Eric A. Jones, 29, NY
David S. Mitchell, 30, Ohio
Kyle R. Van De Giesen, 29, MA
Eduviges G. Wolf, 24, CA
Devin J. Michel, 19, IL
David L. Audo, 35, IL
Brandon K. Steffey, 23, MI
Cody R. Stanley, 21, TX
Luis M. Gonzalez, 27, NY
Fernando Delarosa, 24, TX
Dale R. Griffin, 29, IN
Issac B. Jackson, 27, MO
Patrick O. Williamson, 24, LA
Jared D. Stanker, 22, of IL
Christopher I. Walz, 25, WA
Michael P. Montgomery, 36, GA
Niall Lyons, 40, WA
Shawn H. McNabb, 24, TX
Josue E. Hernandez Chavez, 23, NV
Nikolas A. Mueller, 26, WI
David E. Metzger, 32, CA
Keith R. Bishop, 28, NY
Robert K. Charlton, 22, MO
Joseph L. Gallegos, 39, NM non-combat related incident
Brian R. Bates, Jr., 20, LA
Frank R. Walker, 66, OK- non-combat related medical causes
Adrian L. Avila, 19, AL – non-combat related incident
Lukas C. Hopper, 20, CA
Christopher M. Cooper, 28, CA – non-combat related incident
Cesar B. Ruiz, 26, TX
Jonathon M. Sylvestre, 21, CO – non-combat related incident – 400th soldier to die under President Obama’s command.
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Aaron Thomas Nemelka, 19, UT chose to join the Army instead of going on a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
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Tony Carrasco Jr., 25, NM
Aaron S. Aamot, 22, WA
Gary L. Gooch Jr., 22, FL
Charles I. Cartwright, 26, MD
Mathew C. Heffelfinger, 29, ID
Earl R. Scott III, 24, FL
Justin J. Swanson, 21, CA
Christopher J. Coffland, 43, MD
Stephen L. Murphy, 36, NH
Shawn P. Hefner, 22, TX
Benjamin W. Sherman, 21, MA
Ryan L. Zorn, 35, WY
Joseph M. Lewis, 26, TX
Brian M. Patton, 37, IL
John J. Cleaver, 36, WA
Daniel A. Frazier, 25, MO
James M. Nolen, 25, TX
Marcus A. Tynes, 19, CA – one of the youngest soldiers to die since 1/20/09
Nicholas J. Hand, 20, MO
Briand T. Williams, 25, GA
Matthew A. Pucino, 34, MD
Jason A. McLeod, 22, IL
Michael A. Rogers, 23, Montanna
David M. Mudge, 22, Ore – non-hostile accident
Brandon T. Islip, 23, VA
Derrick D. Gwaltney, 21, FL
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Jonathan A. Taylor, 22, FL
Kenneth R. Nichols Jr., 28, IL
Elijah J. Rao, 26, OR
Xhacob Latorre, 21, Conn.
Dennis J. Hansen, 31, FL
Ralph Anthony Webb Frietas, 23, MI
Jaiciae L. Pauley, 29, GA – non-combat related incident
Jhanner A. Tello, 29, CA – non-combat related incident
Anthony C. Campbell Jr., 35, KY
Serge Kropov, 21, PA – non-hostile incident
Albert D. Ware, 27, IL
Omar G. Roebuck, 23, CA
David H. Gutierrez, 35, CA
Jason M. Johnston, 24, NY
Ronald J. Spino, 45, Conn
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Brushaun X. Anderson, 20, of Columbus, Ga.
Bradley R. Smith, 24, of Troy, Ill.
Joshua A. Lengstorf, 24, of Yoncalla, Ore
Spc. Brian R. Bowman, 24, of Crawfordsville, Ind.
Pvt. John P. Dion, 19, of Shattuck, Okla.
Spc. David A. Croft Jr., 22, of Plant City, Fla.
Sgt. 1st Class Jason O. B. Hickman, 35, of Kingsport, Tenn. died Jan. 7 at Forward Operating Base Salerno, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered earlier that day at Combat Outpost Bowri Tana, when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device and small arms fire.
Lance Cpl. Jacob A. Meinert, 20, of Fort Atkinson, Wis., died Jan. 10 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan.
Lance Cpl. Mark D. Juarez, 23, of San Antonio, Texas, died Jan. 9 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. An earlier DOD release identified the wrong soldier, though the correct family was notified.
Pfc. Michael R. Jarrett, 20, of North Platte, Neb., died Jan. 6 in Balad, Iraq, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident.
Staff Sgt. Matthew N. Ingham, 25, of Altoona, Pa. died Jan. 11 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan
Cpl. Jamie R. Lowe, 21, of Johnsonville, Ill. died Jan. 11 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan
Cpl. Nicholas K. Uzenski, 21, of Tomball, Texas. died Jan. 11 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan
Sgt. Christopher R. Hrbek, 25, of Westwood, N.J., died Jan. 14 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan.
Spc. Kyle J. Wright, 22, of Romeoville, Ill., died Jan. 13 at Kandahar Air Field, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered earlier that day when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device in Kandahar province.
Sgt. Lucas T. Beachnaw, 23, of Lowell, Mich., died Jan. 13 in Darya Ya, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit using small arms fire.
Staff Sgt. Daniel D. Merriweather, 25, of Collierville Tenn. He died Jan. 13 at Combat Outpost McClain, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device.
Pfc. Geoffrey A. Whitsitt, 21, of Taylors, S.C. He died Jan. 13 at Combat Outpost McClain, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device.
Staff Sgt. Anton R. Phillips, 31, of Inglewood, Calif., died Dec. 31, 2009, at Forward Operating Base Methar Lam, Afghanistan.
Tech. Sgt. Adam K. Ginett, 29, of Knightdale, N.C., died Jan. 19 near Kandahar Air Field, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered from an improvised explosive device.
Sgt. 1st Class Michael P. Shannon, 52, of Canadensis, Pa., died Jan. 17, in Kabul, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to Headquarters, 7th Army and U.S. Army Europe, Heidelberg, Germany.
Capt. Paul Pena, 27, of San Marcos, Texas, died Jan. 19 in Arghandab River Valley, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device.
Staff Sgt. Thaddeus S. Montgomery, 29, of West Yellowstone, Mont., died Jan. 20 at Lorengal Outpost, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident.
Pfc. Gifford E. Hurt, 19, of Yonkers, N.Y., died Jan. 20, in Mosul, Iraq, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related accident.
Petty Officer 2nd Class Xin Qi, 25, of Cordova, Tenn., died Jan. 23, while supporting combat operations in Afghanistan.
Lance Cpl. Jeremy M. Kane, 22, of Towson, Md., died Jan. 23 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan.
The following Marines died Jan. 24 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan: Sgt. Daniel M. Angus, 28, of Thonotosassa, Fla.
… Lance Cpl. Timothy J. Poole, 22, of Bowling Green, Ky.
and … Lance Cpl. Zachary D. Smith, 19, of Hornell, N.Y.
Sgt. Carlos E. Gill, 25, of Fayetteville, N.C., died Jan. 26 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center of an illness. He was evacuated from Kandahar Air Field, Afghanistan, Dec. 19, 2009, where he was supporting combat operations.
Pfc. Scott G. Barnett, 24, of Concord, Calif., died Jan. 28 in Tallil, Iraq, of injuries sustained while supporting combat operations.
Sgt. David J. Smith, 25, of Frederick, Md., died Jan. 26 from wounds received Jan. 23 while supporting combat operations in Helmand Province, Afghanistan.
Capt. David J. Thompson, 39, of Hooker, Okla., died Jan. 29 in Wardak province, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained while supporting combat operations.
Spc. Marc P. Decoteau, 19, of Waterville Valley, N.H., died Jan. 29 in Wardak province, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained while supporting combat operations.
Lance Cpl. Michael L. Freeman Jr., 21, of Fayetteville, Pa., died Feb. 1 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan.
Staff Sgt. Rusty H. Christian, 24, of Greenville, Tenn., died Jan. 28 in Oruzgan province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device.
Capt. Daniel Whitten, 28, of Grimes, Iowa; died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device Feb. 2 in Zabul province, Afghanistan.
Pfc. Zachary G. Lovejoy, 20, of Albuquerque, N.M. died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device Feb. 2 in Zabul province, Afghanistan.
Sgt. 1st Class David J. Hartman, 27, of Okinawa, Japan. died Feb. 3 in Timagara, Pakistan, from wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device.
Sgt. 1st Class Matthew S. Sluss-Tiller, 35, of Callettsburg, Ky. died Feb. 3 in Timagara, Pakistan, from wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device.
Staff Sgt. Mark A. Stets, 39, of El Cajon, Calif. died Feb. 3 in Timagara, Pakistan, from wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device.
Sgt. Dillon B. Foxx, 22, of Traverse City, Mich., died Feb. 5 in Bala Murghab, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Sgt. Adam J. Ray, 23, of Louisville, Ky., died Feb. 9 in southern Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 4th Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 5th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Pfc. Adriana Alvarez, 20, of San Benito, Texas
, died Feb. 10 in Baghdad, of injuries sustained while supporting combat operations. She was assigned to the 504th Military Police Battalion, 42nd Military Police Brigade, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash. — NOTE: We originally reported that Alvarez was the 500th soldier to die under the Command of President Barack H. Obama. This is because we had reported on the February 9th death of Adam J. Ray and had received a report of another death of a U.S. Soldier on the 9th. It now (2/17/2010) appears these two stories were, in fact, one and the same. That would make Adam J. Ray the 498th to die under Commander Obama and Adriana Alvarez the 499th.
Because the following three soldiers died in the same attack, it is not possible to single out one of them as having been the 500th death under President Barack H. Obama. It is fair to say, however, that these three were the 500th, 501st and 502nd deaths since President Obama was sworn in.
Staff Sgt. John A. Reiners, 24, of Lakeland, Fla.; died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device Feb. 13 in Zhari province, Afghanistan. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Sgt. Jeremiah T. Wittman, 26, of Darby, Mont.; died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device Feb. 13 in Zhari province, Afghanistan. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Spc. Bobby J. Pagan, 23, of Austin, Texas. died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device Feb. 13 in Zhari province, Afghanistan. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Cpl. Jacob H. Turbett, 21, of Canton, Mich., died Feb. 13 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Combat Engineer Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Pfc. Jason H. Estopinal, 21, of Dallas, Ga., died Feb. 15 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Noah M. Pier, 25, of Charlotte, N.C., died Feb. 16 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division, III Marine Expeditionary Force, Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii.
Petty Officer 1st Class Sean L. Caughman, 43, of Fort Worth, Texas, died Feb. 16, while supporting operations in Kuwait. Caughman was assigned to Naval Mobile Construction Battalion Twenty-Two.
Marine Lance Cpl. Alejandro J. Yazzie, 23, of Rock Point, Ariz., died Feb. 16 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Combat Engineer Battalion, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Marine Pfc. Eric D. Currier, 21, of Londonderry, N.H., died Feb. 17 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Pfc. Charles A. Williams, 29, of Fair Oaks, Calif., died Feb. 7 at Camp Nathan Smith, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained while supporting combat operations. He was assigned to the 97th Military Police Battalion, 18th Military Police Brigade, Fort Riley, Kan.
Marine Pfc. Kyle J. Coutu, 20, of Providence, R.I., died Feb. 18 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Larry M. Johnson, 19, of Scranton, Pa., died Feb. 18 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Combat Engineer Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Kielin T. Dunn, 19, of Chesapeake, Va., died Feb. 18 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Sgt. Jeremy R. McQueary, 27, of Columbus, Ind., died Feb. 18 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Combat Engineer Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Joshua H. Birchfield, 24, of Westville, Ind., died Feb. 19 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Twentynine Palms, Calif.
Marine Cpl. Gregory S. Stultz, 22, of Brazil, Ind., died Feb. 19 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Reconnaissance Battalion, 3rd Marine Division, III Marine Expeditionary Force, Okinawa, Japan.
Marine Lance Cpl. Adam D. Peak, 25, of Florence, Ky., died Feb. 21 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Matthias N. Hanson, 20, of Buffalo, Ky., died Feb. 21 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Staff Sgt. Christopher W. Eckard, 30, of Hickory, N.C., died Feb. 20 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 8th Engineer Support Battalion, 2nd Marine Logistics Group, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Eric L. Ward, 19, of Redmond, Wash., died Feb. 21 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Pfc. JR Salvacion, 27, of Ewa Beach, Hawaii, died Feb. 21 at Senjaray, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Army Capt. Marcus R. Alford, 28, of Knoxville, Tenn. died Feb. 21 in Qayyarah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when their OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter had a hard landing. The soldiers were assigned to the 1st Squadron, 230th Cavalry Regiment, Louisville, Tenn.
Army Chief Warrant Officer Billie J. Grinder, 25, of Gallatin, Tenn. died Feb. 21 in Qayyarah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when their OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter had a hard landing. The soldiers were assigned to the 1st Squadron, 230th Cavalry Regiment, Louisville, Tenn.
Army Sgt. Marcos Gorra, 22, of North Bergen, N.J., died Feb. 21 at Kandahar Airfield, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained while supporting combat operations. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Army Cpl. Daniel T. O’Leary, 23, of Youngsville, N.C., died Feb. 23 in Fallujah, Iraq, of injuries sustained during a vehicle roll-over. He was assigned to the 307th Brigade Support Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Army Sgt. William C. Spencer, 40, of Tacoma, Wash., died Feb. 25 at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Landstuhl, Germany, of wounds sustained Feb. 20 while supporting combat operations at Combat Outpost Marez, Iraq. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 146th Field Artillery Regiment, Olympia, Wash.
Army Staff Sgt. William S. Ricketts, 27, of Corinth, Miss., died Feb 27 at Bala Murghab, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with small arms fire. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Joshua H. Birchfield, 24, of Westville, Ind., died Feb. 19 while supporting combat operations in Farah province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Twentynine Palms, Calif.
Army Spc. Ian T.D. Gelig, 25, of Stevenson Ranch, Calif., died March 1 in Kandahar, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 782nd Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Army Spc. Josiah D. Crumpler, 27, of Hillsborough, N.C. died March 1 in Bala Murghab, Afghanistan, when insurgents attacked their unit using small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fires. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Army Spc. Matthew D. Huston, 24, of Athens, Ga. died March 1 in Bala Murghab, Afghanistan, when insurgents attacked their unit using small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fires. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Carlos A. Aragon, 19, of Orem, Utah, died March 1 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 4th Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 4th Marine Division, Marine Forces Reserve, based out of Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Army Sgt. Vincent L.C. Owens, 21, of Fort Smith, Ark., died March 1 at Forward Operating Base Sharana, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered earlier that day when enemy forces attacked his vehicle using direct fire in Yosuf Khel. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Marine Lance Cpl. Nigel K. Olsen, 21, of Orem, Utah, died March 4 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 4th Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 4th Marine Division, Marine Forces Reserve, based out of Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Army Spc. Anthony A. Paci, 30, of Rockville, Md., died Mar. 4 at Gereshk, Afghanistan, of injuries suffered during a vehicle rollover. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry, 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Army Spc. Alan N. Dikcis, 21, of Niagara Falls, N.Y., died March 5 in Kandahar, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 630th Engineer Company (Clearance), 7th Engineer Battalion (Combat Effects), 20th Engineer Brigade (Combat) (Airborne), Fort Drum, N.Y.
Army Sgt. Aaron M. Arthur, 25, of Lake City, S.C. died March 8 north of Al Kut, Iraq, of injuries sustained during a vehicle roll-over. They were assigned to the 203rd Brigade Support Battalion, attached to the 1st Battalion, 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning, Ga.
Army Spc. Lakeshia M. Bailey, 23, of Columbus, Ga. died March 8 north of Al Kut, Iraq, of injuries sustained during a vehicle roll-over. They were assigned to the 203rd Brigade Support Battalion, attached to the 1st Battalion, 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning, Ga.
Army Pvt. Nicholas S. Cook, 19, of Hungry Horse, Mont., died March 7 in Konar province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using small arms fire. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Camp Ederle, Italy.
Army Sgt. Jonathan J. Richardson, 24, of Bald Knob, Ark. died March 9 in Khowst province, Afghanistan, from wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit using small-arms, indirect and rocket-propelled grenade fires. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Army Pfc. Jason M. Kropat, 25, of White Lake, N.Y. died March 9 in Khowst province, Afghanistan, from wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit using small-arms, indirect and rocket-propelled grenade fires. They were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Marine Lance Cpl. Garrett W. Gamble, 20, of Sugarland, Texas, died March 11 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Cpl. Jonathan D. Porto, 26, of Largo, Fla., died March 14 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Pfc. Erin L. McLyman, 26, of Federal Way, Wash., died March 13 in Balad, Iraq, of wounds sustained when enemy forces attacked her base with mortar fire. She was assigned to the 296th Brigade Support Battalion, 3rd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Base Lews-McChord, Wash.
Amry Sgt. 1st Class Glen J. Whetten, 31, of Mesa, Ariz., died March 12 near Kandahar, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.
Army Spc. Steven J. Bishop, 29, of Christiansburg, Va., died March 13 in Tikrit, Iraq, while supporting combat operations. He was assigned to the 422nd Civil Affairs Battalion, 352nd Civil Affairs Command, U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Army Staff Sgt. Richard J. Jordan, 29, of Tyler, Texas, died March 16 in Mosul, Iraq, of injuries sustained during a vehicle roll-over. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 36th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, Fort Bliss, Texas.
Marine Gunnery Sgt. Robert L. Gilbert II, 28, of Richfield, Ohio, died March 16 of wounds sustained March 8 while supporting combat operations in Badghis province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Marine Special Operations Battalion, Marine Special Operations Regiment, U.S. Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Navy Chief Petty Officer Adam Brown, 36, of Hot Springs, Ark., died March 18 in Afghanistan. He was assigned to an East Coast -based SEAL Team.
Army Sgt. Joel D. Clarkson, 23, of Fairbanks, Alaska, died March 16 at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, Germany, of wounds sustained March 13 during combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Army Spc. Robert M. Rieckhoff, 26, of Kenosha, Wis., died March 18 in Baghdad, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with rocket-propelled grenade fire. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 15th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, N.Y.

Marine Lance Cpl. Justin J. Wilson, 24, of Palm City, Fla., died March 22 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Sgt. 1st Class Carlos M. Santos-Silva, 32, of Clarksville, Tenn., died March 22 in Kandahar province, Afghanistan of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Marine Sgt. Maj. Robert J. Cottle, 45, of Whittier, Calif. died March 24 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. Cottle was assigned to 4th Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 4thMarine Division, Marine Forces Reserve, based out of Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Marine Lance Cpl. Rick J. Centanni, 19, of Yorba Linda, Calif. died March 24 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. Centanni was assigned to 4th Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 4thMarine Division, Marine Forces Reserve, based out of Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Marine Lance Cpl. Jacob A. Ross, 19, of Gillette, Wyo., died March 24, while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Randy M. Heck, 20, of Steubenville, Ohio, died March 28 from a non-hostile incident in Djibouti, Africa. He was assigned to 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Pfc. James L. Miller, 21, of Yakima, Wash., died March 29 in Dashat, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 4th Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 5th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Army Pfc. Raymond N. Pacleb, 31, of Honolulu, Hawaii, died March 29 in Baghdad, Iraq, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 487th Field Artillery Regiment, Wahiawa, Hawaii.
Navy Lt. Miroslav Zilberman, 31, of Columbus, Ohio, died after his E-2C Hawkeye crashed into the Arabian Gulf on March 31, 2010. The recovery effort was abandoned on April 2, 2010 and his body was not recovered. Zilberman was assigned to Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 121.
Marine Lance Cpl. Tyler O. Griffin, 19, of Voluntown, Conn. died April 1 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. Griffin was assigned to 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Sgt. Frank J. World, 25, of Buffalo, N.Y. died April 1 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. World was assigned to 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Staff Sgt. Scott W. Brunkhorst, 25, Fayetteville, N.C., died March 30 in the Arghandab River Valley, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Curtis M. Swenson, 20, of Rochester, Minn., died April 2 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division, III Marine Expeditionary Force, Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii.
Army Sgt. Kurt E. Kruize, 35, of Hancock, Minn., died April 4 in Baghdad, Iraq of wounds suffered in a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 367th Engineer Battalion, St. Cloud, Minn.
Air Force Maj. Randell D. Voas, 43, of Lakeville, Minn. died April 9 near Kandahar, Afghanistan, in a crash of a CV-22 Osprey. He was assigned to the 8th Special Operations Squadron, Hurlburt Field, Fla.
Air Force Senior Master Sgt. James B. Lackey, 45, of Green Clove Springs, Fla. died April 9 near Kandahar, Afghanistan, in a crash of a CV-22 Osprey. He was were assigned to the 8th Special Operations Squadron, Hurlburt Field, Fla.
Army 1st Lt. Robert W. Collins, 24, of Tyrone, Ga., who died April 7 in Mosul, Iraq, when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device. The Soldiers were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, Fort Stewart, Ga.
Pfc. William A. Blount, 21, of Petal, Miss. died April 7 in Mosul, Iraq, when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device. The Soldiers were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, Fort Stewart, Ga.
Sgt. Roberto E. Diaz Borio, 47, of San Juan, Puerto Rico, died April 8 in Mombassa, Kenya. The circumstances of his death are under investigation. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 65th Infantry Regiment, 92nd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade, Cayay, Puerto Rico.
Army Sgt. Sean M. Durkin, 24, of Aurora, Colo. died April 9 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device near Forward Operating Base Wilson, Afghanistan, on March 27. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, Fort Carson, Colo.
Navy Man killed in Georgia plane crash on 4/12/2010. Ret. Navy Lt. Cmdr. Charles McDaniel, 67, of Cantonment.
Navy man killed in Georgia plane crash on 4/12/2010. Navy Ensign Zachary Eckhart, 25, of Orefield, Penn. Eckhart, a Naval flight officer, graduated from Virginia Tech in 2008 with a degree in aerospace engineering. He was a member of the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets. Ret. Air Force Col. Rock Roszak, alumni director for the corps, said Wednesday that the organization was in mourning. “Many of the cadets knew him and they all feel a bond,” he said.
Marine killed in Georgia plane crash on 4/12/2010. Marine Capt. Jason Paynter, 38, of Pensacola, FL Burton Paynter of Moorhead, Minn., said his son joined the Marines at 18 and served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. The father of three graduated from college and went through flight training while in the Marines. “He was living his dream. He wanted to fly since he was a young man,” the father said. “I’ve always prepared myself for this day. Every time he left here and went to Iraq I wondered if he would come back.”
Marine killed in Georgia plane crash on 4/12/2010. Marine Lt. Shawn Nice, 26, of Levittown, Penn.
Army Cpl. Michael D. Jankiewicz, 23, of Ramsey, N.J., died April 9 in Zabul, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when the CV-22 Osprey he was flying in crashed. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
Army Spc. Joseph T. Caron, 21, of Tacoma, Wash., died April 11 in Char Bagh, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when insurgents attacked his unit using an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Army Sgt. Randolph A. Sigley, 28, of Richmond, Ky., died April 18 in Bagram, Afghanistan. The circumstances of his death are under investigation. He was assigned to the 2123rd Transportation Company, Richmond, Ky.
Army Sgt. Michael K. Ingram Jr., 23, of Monroe, Mich., died April 17 in Kandahar, Afghanistan of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near his dismounted patrol. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Army Staff Sgt. James R. Patton, 23, of Fort Benning, Ga., died April 18 in Tikrit, Iraq, of injuries sustained as the result of a helicopter crash. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
Army Pfc. Charlie C. Antonio, 28, of Kahului, Hawaii, died April 18 in Annassar, Iraq, of injuries suffered in a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 8th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Army Sgt. Robert J. Barrett, 20, of Fall River, Mass., died April 19 in Kabul, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained when a suicide bomber attacked his unit. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 101st Field Artillery Regiment, Fall River, Mass.
Army Command Sgt. Maj. John K. Laborde, 53, of Waterloo, Iowa, died April 22 at Kandahar Air Field, Afghanistan, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 649th Regional Support Group, Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Army Staff Sgt. Christopher D. Worrell, 35, of Virginia Beach, Va., died April 22 in Baghdad, Iraq, of injuries sustained during a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 702nd Combat Support Battalion, 4th Stryker Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Army Sgt. Ronald A. Kubik, 21, of Brielle, N.J., died April 23 in Logar province, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained while conducting combat operations. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
Army Sgt. Jason A. Santora, 25, of Farmingville, N.Y. also died April 23 in Logar province, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained while conducting combat operations. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
Marine Lance Cpl. Thomas E. Rivers Jr., 22, of Birmingham, Ala., died April 28 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Sgt. Keith A. Coe, 30, of Auburndale, Fla., died April 27 in Khalis, Iraq, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an explosive device. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 37th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Army Sgt. Grant A. Wichmann, 27, of Golden, Colo., died April 24 at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Washington, D.C., of wounds sustained March 12 when enemy forces attacked his unit using small arms fire at Out Post Bari Alai, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 3rd Squadron, 61st Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Army Sgt. Nathan P. Kennedy, 24, of Claysville, Pa., died April 27, of wounds sustained when enemy forces attacked his unit using small arms fire near Quarando Village, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Army 1st Lt. Salvatore S. Corma, 24, of Wenonah, N.J., died April 29 at Forward Operating Base Bullard, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when insurgents attacked his unit using improvised explosive devices. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Army Sgt. Anthony O. Magee, 29, of Hattiesburg, Miss., died April 27 at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, of wounds sustained April 24 when enemy forces attacked his unit with indirect fire at Contingency Operating Base Kalsu, Iskandariyah, Iraq. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning, Ga.
Air Force Airman 1st Class Austin H. Gates Benson, 19, of Hellertown, Pa., died May 3 of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident near Khyber, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 54th Combat Communications Squadron at Robins Air Force Base, Ga.
Army Sgt. Ralph Mena, 27, of Hutchinson, Kan., died May 4 in Tikrit, Iraq, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to 72nd Expeditionary Signal Battalion, 7th Signal Brigade, 5th Signal Command, Mannheim, Germany.
Army Master Sgt. Mark W. Coleman, 40, of Centerville, Wash., died May 2 at Khakrez, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 1st Special Forces Group, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Marine 1st Lt. Brandon A. Barrett, 27, of Marion, Ind., died May 5 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Spc. Eric M. Finniginam, 26, of Colonia, Federated States of Micronesia, died May 1 at Forward Operating Base Blessing, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when insurgents attacked his unit using indirect fire. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.
Army Spc. Wade A. Slack, 21, of Waterville, Maine, died May 6 at Jaghatu, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when insurgents attacked his unit using indirect fire. He was assigned to the 707th Ordnance Company (Explosive Ordnance Disposal), Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Marine Lance Cpl. Richard R. Penny, 21, of Fayetteville, Ark., died May 6 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Staff Sgt. Esau S.A. Gonzales, 30, of White Deer, Texas, died May 3 in Mosul, Iraq, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 38th Explosive Ordnance Disposal Company, Fort Stewart, Ga.
Marine Lance Cpl. Joshua M. Davis, 19, of Perry, Iowa, died May 7 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

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Marine Lance Cpl. Christopher Rangel, 22, of San Antonio, Texas, died May 6 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Capt. Kyle A. Comfort, 27, of Jacksonville, Ala., died May 8 in Helmand province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
Marine Cpl. Kurt S. Shea, 21, of Frederick, Md., died May 10 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Spc. Jeremy L. Brown, 20, of McMinnville, Tenn., died May 9 at Contingency Outpost Zerok, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using small arms fire. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Marine Cpl. Jeffery W. Johnson, 21, of Tomball, Texas, died May 11 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. Johnson was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Marine Sgt. Kenneth B. May, Jr., 26, of Kilgore, Texas died May 11 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. May was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Marine Sgt. Donald J. Lamar II, 23, of Fredericksburg, Va., died May 12 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Sgt. Joshua D. Desforges, 23, of Ludlow, Mass., died May 12 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Spc. Denis D. Kisseloff, 45, of Saint Charles, Mo., died May 14 at Forward Operating Base Shank, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using rocket propelled grenade and small arms fires. He was assigned to the 1141st Engineer Company, Kansas City, Mo.
Navy Petty Officer Zarian Wood, 29, of Houston, Texas, died May 16 in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained from an improvised explosive device blast while on dismounted patrol. Wood was assigned as a hospital corpsman to Third Battalion, First Marine Regiment, First Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force.
Marine Cpl. Nicholas D. Paradarodriguez, 29, of Stafford, Va., died May 16 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Staff Sgt. Adam L. Perkins, 27, of Antelope, Calif. died May 17 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 7th Engineer Support Battalion, 1st Marine Logistics Group, IMarine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Army Col. John M. McHugh, 46, of New Jersey, assigned to the U.S. Army Battle Command Training Program, Fort Leavenworth, Kan.; died May 18 in Kabul, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their convoy with a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device.
Army Lt. Col. Paul R. Bartz, 43, of Waterloo, Wis., assigned to Headquarters, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, N.Y.;died May 18 in Kabul, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their convoy with a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device.
Army Lt. Col. Thomas P. Belkofer, 44, of Perrysburg, Ohio, assigned to Headquarters, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, N.Y.; died May 18 in Kabul, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their convoy with a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device.
Army Staff Sgt. Richard J. Tieman, 28, of Waynesboro, Pa., assigned to Special Troops Battalion, V Corps, Heidelberg, Germany; died May 18 in Kabul, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their convoy with a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device.
Army Spc. Joshua A. Tomlinson, 24, of Dubberly, La., assigned to Special Troops Battalion, V Corps, Heidelberg, Germany. died May 18 in Kabul, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked their convoy with a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device.
Marine Lance Cpl. Patrick Xavier Jr., 24, of Pembroke Pines, Fla., died May 18 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Staff Sgt. Shane S. Barnard, 38, of Desmet, S.D., died May 19 in Zabul Province, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when he stepped on a secondary improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 3rd Ordnance Battalion (Explosive Ordnance Detachment), Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Army Pfc. Billy G. Anderson, 20, of Alexandria, Tenn., died May 17, in Badghis province Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with improvised explosive devices. He was assigned to the 508th Special Troops Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Marine Lance Cpl. Philip P. Clark, 19, of Gainesville, Fla., died May 18 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Army Pfc. Jason D. Fingar, 24, of Columbia, Mo., died May 22 in Durai, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when his military vehicle struck an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 4th Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment, 5th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash.
Army Spc. Stanley J. Sokolowski, III, 26, of Ocean, N.J. died May 20 in Kirkuk, Iraq, in a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to Special Troops Battalion, 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division, Fort Bliss, Texas.
Army Staff Sgt. Amilcar H. Gonzalez, 26, of Miami, Fla., died May 21 in Ash Shura, Iraq, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with small arms fire. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 2nd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga.
Army Pfc. Christopher R. Barton, 22, of Concord, N.C., died May 24 in Khowst province, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when insurgents attacked his unit using small arms fire. He was assigned to the 1st Squadron, 33rd Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Army Maj. Ronald W. Culver Jr., 44, of Shreveport, La., died May 24 in Numaniyah, Iraq, when insurgents attacked his vehicle with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 2nd Squadron, 108th Cavalry Regiment, Shreveport, La.
Army Sgt. Edwin Rivera, 28, of Waterford, Conn., died May 25 at National Naval Medical Center, Bethesda, Md., of wounds sustained May 20 when his unit was attacked by enemy forces using indirect fire at Contingency Outpost Xio Haq, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 102nd Infantry, Norwalk, Conn.
Cpl. Jacob C. Leicht, 24, of College Station, Texas, died May 27 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to the 1st Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division, 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.
Marine Lance Cpl. Anthony A. Dilisio, 20, of Macomb, Mich., died May 30 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, IIMarine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.
Marine Pfc. Jake W. Suter, 18, of Los Angeles, Calif., died May 29 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division, III Marine Expeditionary Force, Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. Suter is the second 18-year-old to die in service to the nation since Obama became President. The other was Matthew Wildes. The two are the youngest to die under Commander Obama.
Army Pfc. Alvaro R. Regalado Sessarego, 37, of Virginia Beach, Va., died May 30 at Brooke Army Medical Center, Fort Sam Houston, Texas, of injuries sustained April 18 from a non-combat related incident at Dahuk, Iraq. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 36th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division, Fort Bliss, Texas.
Army Spc. Jonathan K. Peney, 22, of Marietta, Ga., died June 1 in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when he was shot by enemy forces. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.
Army Pvt. Francisco J. Guardado-Ramirez, 21, of Sunland Park, N.M., died June 2 in Baghdad, Iraq, of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 1stBattalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga.
Army 1st Lt. Joseph J. Theinert, 24, of Sag Harbor, N.Y., died June 4 in Kandahar, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when insurgents attacked his unit using a rocket propelled grenade and an improvised explosive device. He was a New York Army National Guardsman assigned to 1st Squadron, 71st Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry), Fort Drum, N.Y.
Marine Sgt. Brandon C. Bury, 26, of Kingwood, Texas died June 6 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. The incident is under investigation. As

LWW
06-22-2011, 04:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">4) Lastly, of course, Obama didn't start these wars, or low-ball their costs and casualties-- that was W and crew. </div></div>

So Bush forced the Taliban to not give up Bin Laden, to support the 9/11 attacks, and forced Saddamite Hussinsein to refuse to follow the 1991 cease fire?

Are you challenging Charlotte for CinC of the Cabal?

LWW
06-22-2011, 04:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">3) Obama has ratcheted up the Afghanistan effort, including far greater numbers of troops, far greater numbers of drone strike kills, etc. Pushing up the number of servicemen and women in country and ratcheting up their activity exposes far more to attack, injury, and death. What would one expect to happen when a simmering pot on the back burner is brought forward to a fuller boil?</div></div>

For political reasons ... and he is now about to go against the advice of the Pentagon and our allies and start a withdrawal.

After years of claiming this would be a Viet Nam ... the left is finally getting their wish.

US diplomacy is also being dealt yet another serious blow by this.

LWW
06-22-2011, 04:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2) Since he wholly shifted the focus away from Afghanistan to wage the war in Iraq, fairly little was done there in his time, resulting in ignoring death tolls in Afghanistan for those in Iraq, for the time period the media headlined death totals, and </div></div>

Balderdash and poppycock.

Iraq was a gift from Osama that we never fully capitalized on.

As opposed to fighting in a mountain/cave area we lured the jihadis into flat and open ground.

LWW
06-22-2011, 04:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Absolutely not surprised.

1) Even the far greater IRAQ deaths during Bush's term became 'old news' that was left unmentioned after a while, and probably this inattention in terms of headlines started before his first term ended</div></div>

Utter nonsense.

Olberblown and Madcow and PMSNBC were literally salivating to announce the latest death toll.

Each even number milestone of US casualties was trumpeted across the land incessantly.

You can deny the Obamedia's treachery ... the conscious among us remember the truth.

Sev
06-22-2011, 06:30 AM
We all know there would be a Bush Death Clock ticking away if he were still in office.

When there is a dem president and wars at the same time. Troop deaths are considered acceptable losses and generally ignored by both the administration and news media.

LWW
06-22-2011, 08:16 AM
What the left also refuses to acknowledge is ... how many people didn't die because Saddamite Hussinsein and the Taliban were toppled ... how many women weren't raped ... how many people aren't without schools ... how many people weren't deprived of needed medicine and care ... how many aren't hungry?

eg8r
06-22-2011, 08:46 AM
No, I am not. When GWB was attacking Ashcanistan he was doing it mainly through the air. He then for some reason decided to slack off on the Taliban and go after Saddam in Iraq. All those reports of soldier deaths over the next few years were based in Iraq. Now that Obama is in charge he has shifted focus to Ashcanistan which is why you see a rise in deaths there and very little to zero mentions about Iraq.

eg8r

llotter
06-22-2011, 10:06 AM
All those things you list are nice but rebuilding Iraq was not the purpose to invading and probably would not have gotten the overwhelming support of our Congress. I think we invaded for good reason but then was stuck having to 'nation build' as a consequence. It is still an open question whether that effort will be successful but if it is, will probably be worth the effort. I am getting less optimistic about that possibility but even a bad outcome might be worth the learning experience gained...if we learn anything.

Gayle in MD
06-22-2011, 10:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gosh, it came as a great surprise to learn today that the death total in Afghanistan during GW's term as CiC was 638 over those 7 years but the total in that war since The Moron took office just hit 1000. It came as a surprise because what used to be a daily exercise in reporting soldier deaths, and holding GW responsible for each one, has suddenly become unworthy of hardly any mention at all.

Anyone else here as surprised a I am? </div></div>


Perhaps the question should be is anyone here as slanted as you are.

GW dropped the ball in getting the people who attacked us on 9/11, so he could provide oil contracts for the American Oil Cartel.

He lied us into Iraq, for his and Cheney's cronies' interests.

All but the radical, RW deniers, understand that.

Bush hid the caskets of our soldiers, intentionally, to hiide the sacrifices our soldiers were making in his war of choice, on lies.

This president realizes that the real threat lies in terrorists getting control of Pakistan's nukes, and/or the Taliban recreating training grounds for al Qaeda, and growing the terrorist population, beyond anything that ANY law enforcement could prevent.

You, obviously, fail to integrate into your thinking, the fact that during war, conditions change, and policies must change with them, but Bush refused to change his policy, even after it became clear, that his policies worked against our best interests in the Middle East.

Bush's ridiculous, "Stay the course" even long after we all knew there were no WMD in Iraq, and his determination to waste over four thousand lives and trillions in treasure, in spite of the fact that his policy had been decried as the worst foreign policy decision in history, by five former Secretaries of State, from both political persuasions, yet he insisted on staying, lying all the way, and hiding caskets.

Now, we are still trying to leave the Bush Fiasco, with some honor. And Now, it is undeniable, that Bush's policies worked against our interests in the region, and only aided our enemies.

Wake up! President Obama didn't put us into this very unfortunate mess, Bush did that.

Also, every Sunday Morning News Program, Meet The Press, Face the Nation, This Week, and numerous shows during the week, reports of our soldeir's deaths anywhere and everywhere in the region, are standard.

Doesn't surprise me that you don't know a thing about it.

G.

llotter
06-22-2011, 10:22 AM
Frankly, I have not been able to figure out why The Pathetic Moron increased our ground presence in Afghanistan, other than 'nation building'. I don't think that getting Osama was furthered by that effort. The country was target poor and much smaller forces, with special ops, could have kept the country from reverting back to a terrorist home base.

The purpose of the thread was to point out how the much higher KIA rate went with so little notice by the MSM, not that is was to be expected by the much larger forces in the country.

LWW
06-22-2011, 03:45 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All those things you list are nice but rebuilding Iraq was not the purpose to invading and probably would not have gotten the overwhelming support of our Congress. I think we invaded for good reason but then was stuck having to 'nation build' as a consequence. It is still an open question whether that effort will be successful but if it is, will probably be worth the effort. I am getting less optimistic about that possibility but even a bad outcome might be worth the learning experience gained...if we learn anything. </div></div>

The only possible sane reasons for toppling a regime by force are:

1 - Plunder.

2 - Replacing the old with something better.

As much as the far left tried to claim our motivation was #1 ... it wasn't.

Now, that leaves #2.

Where we failed is Bush was weak and biwed down to the leftist mob.

Nation building works as a foreign policy, Western Europe and Japan are proof of this.

Instead of a foreign policy which continues the Pax Americana and protects the US national interests we are stuck on stupid because of a series of leftist regimes that are embarrassed by US power.

We should have cut the Euros and Japanese loose at least 20 years ago. They are easily wealthy enough to pay for their own defense now that the USSR is gone. They are wealthy enough to prosper without US aid. They are wealthy enough to defend their own sea lanes and trading vessels.

Instead, we coddle them much as rich parents often do with spoiled children.

In the meanwhile, with the US occupation of Japan and Germany as a perfect example of how to do things ... we ignore the lessons and try to negotiate with "moderates" within the Taliban.

Ever wonder why post war Germany didn't descend into the Hell that Iraq became?

Believe me, they tried it ... and far better planning that the jihadists in Iraq had.

The critical difference was that a non uniformed combatant was killed upon arrest and left as a warning. There was no Guantanamo where the Nazi Werewolves were allowed to reside in comfort on a catch and release plan.

llotter
06-22-2011, 06:33 PM
I like the Pax Americana model with U.S. forces based around the world with a large military to both keep the peace and 'educate' many a young man in the culture and fighting spirit of America. The mistake we made was going to the much more expensive professional military and away from the cheap draft system.

I know we agree that western civ is the best of alternatives and that American presencs in the world should help those lesser alternatives see the light.

I don't think the situation in the Muslim countries are analogous to Germany and Japan in the 'nation building' arena. Primarily, our WWII enemies were already unified as cultures and saw themselves as such. Plus these examples were first world countries that understood economics, government and the need for stability what it takes to foster it.

OTOH, nation building in the middle east is a whole different ball of wax. These are essentially tribal societies and building a unitary whole is truly a challenge, especially with The Moron leading from behind.

LWW
06-23-2011, 02:08 AM
Let me elaborate a bit further.

Japan and Germany are both very similar to the radical Islamist states in that believed they were destined to take over the world.

Key parts of their transformation into civilized members of the world which were skipped in Iraq/Afghanland were:

1 - Unconditional surrender. Victory in war is achieved not by breaking the enemy's machine but by breaking the enemy's will to fight. This is most easily achieved by removing from their mind's all belief that they could ever win. A lack of western resolve left Osama (Not the POTUS Snoopy and aitch, that's Obama.) and Saddam believing that they could win until the day they died. Unlike WWII where we made the Japanese and German gubmints agree publicly to unconditional surrender ... Bush bowed down to his critics and attempted to fight a war whose goal was to achieve victory in the slowest and most painful of manners.

2 - Occupation and reeducation. In postwar Germany every German citizen was forced to be educated on why there nation had been destroyed and the evil their leaders had wrought. A similar campaign was conducted in Japan.

hondo
06-23-2011, 05:27 AM
Great post, dearless leader.
Now post those killed in Iraq during Bush's Presidency.
Show us what you're made of.

hondo
06-23-2011, 05:32 AM
Here's help:

http://antiwar.com/casualties/list.php

LWW
06-23-2011, 05:56 AM
It's well over your head at this point my mountaineer friend.

hondo
06-23-2011, 06:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's well over your head at this point my mountaineer friend. </div></div>

Nice duck.
1. I don't live in the mountains.
2. I'm far from your friend. Don't particularly even like you.
3. I imagine when I point out your bias, you would divert with some trivial smart ass answer. You never fail to disappoint.

LWW
06-23-2011, 06:51 AM
My statement stands.

In fact, you are unwittingly proving the point ... that the left has become eerily silent about the death of US soldiers since dear leader's immaculation, and when confronted with this they can offer nothing better than <span style='font-size: 14pt'>"B-B-B-BUT B-B-B-BOOOOSH!!!!"</span>

Not that I needed it, but you have simply reinforced what I had said.

Gayle in MD
06-23-2011, 08:01 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frankly, I have not been able to figure out why The Pathetic Moron increased our ground presence in Afghanistan, other than 'nation building'. I don't think that getting Osama was furthered by that effort. The country was target poor and much smaller forces, with special ops, could have kept the country from reverting back to a terrorist home base.

The purpose of the thread was to point out how the much higher KIA rate went with so little notice by the MSM, not that is was to be expected by the much larger forces in the country. </div></div>

Since when do you pay any attention to mainstreet anything?

Your posts make it obvious that you, and the rest from the right, ONLY read or notice what suits your own illogical views.

Many of us here asked the question, in March, 2003, why we weren't using special Ops, not only to get bin Laden, but to destroy the safe havens for terrorist groups, but that was before the country realilzed that the whole Saddam, WMD story, was just a big lie, by Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld, all of the Neocons, who were heavily invested in OIL. Fear Mongering and lies, to promote their crony capitalism.

Over Four Thousand Young soldiers, died, and over thirty thousand with permenant injuries, and ont on post of outrage from you, or any other of the mindless righties on this forum.

Now, you gripe about a fanntasy you have, along with the rest of your misbegotten views, by trying to lie about what is being reported.

I advise you to tune into every single Sunday morniing show, next Sunday, where you will see the names of every single soldier we lost that week, honored for their service, and stop spreading you sicko RW lies, about what is reported in the MS Media.

This President, has never hidden our partiot's caskets, when they were returned home. That was your boy Bush, remember him, the real moron who left the country in multi quagmires, and a collapsed economy?

G.

Gayle in MD
06-23-2011, 08:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the Pax Americana model with U.S. forces based around the world with a large military to both keep the peace and 'educate' many a young man in the culture and fighting spirit of America. The mistake we made was going to the much more expensive professional military and away from the cheap draft system.

I know we agree that western civ is the best of alternatives and that American presencs in the world should help those lesser alternatives see the light.

I don't think the situation in the Muslim countries are analogous to Germany and Japan in the 'nation building' arena. Primarily, our WWII enemies were already unified as cultures and saw themselves as such. Plus these examples were first world countries that understood economics, government and the need for stability what it takes to foster it.

OTOH, nation building in the middle east is a whole different ball of wax. These are essentially tribal societies and building a unitary whole is truly a challenge, especially with The Moron leading from behind. </div></div>

The Moron who launched the Nation Building, in the Middle East, and left the whole mess he made behind him, is gone.

AND, he was too careless, deceitful and incompetent, to even bother with getting the man who launched the worst attack on our country since Pearle Harbour!

G.

llotter
06-23-2011, 10:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me elaborate a bit further.

Japan and Germany are both very similar to the radical Islamist states in that believed they were destined to take over the world.

Key parts of their transformation into civilized members of the world which were skipped in Iraq/Afghanland were:

1 - Unconditional surrender. Victory in war is achieved not by breaking the enemy's machine but by breaking the enemy's will to fight. This is most easily achieved by removing from their mind's all belief that they could ever win. A lack of western resolve left Osama (Not the POTUS Snoopy and aitch, that's Obama.) and Saddam believing that they could win until the day they died. Unlike WWII where we made the Japanese and German gubmints agree publicly to unconditional surrender ... Bush bowed down to his critics and attempted to fight a war whose goal was to achieve victory in the slowest and most painful of manners.

2 - Occupation and reeducation. In postwar Germany every German citizen was forced to be educated on why there nation had been destroyed and the evil their leaders had wrought. A similar campaign was conducted in Japan. </div></div>

I think both points are highly specious. First, I don't think 'unconditional surrender' is an option in the war on terror (Islamic terrorists) that is apparently not well connected around the world. No one represents or speaks for the enemy therefore no one is available to surrender.

Second, Occupation and Re-education is also extremely problematic in countries that are Muslim when the religion supports the terrorism. If we have a significant problem here with home grown terrorists (and we do), it is hard to believe that that same problem won't be a geometrically greater problem where virtually all of the population is Muslim. No country can afford to undertake efforts on the scale that we have done in Iraq in multiple countries...and the Iraq experiment is anything but conclusive.

Though it is hardly worth the reading, my idea is to put real efforts into rebuilding our intelligence capability so we can identify problem areas and deal with them with small force structure, including special ops. Secondly, we need to renew our constitutional republic here at home as a model for the rest of the world to emulate, becoming once again The Shining City on the Hill. And third, to help others who want help achieving their own freedom mostly through education. A new paradigm. (of course, we will need some liberal re-education camps)

Gayle in MD
06-23-2011, 11:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Let me elaborate a bit further.

Japan and Germany are both very similar to the radical Islamist states in that believed they were destined to take over the world.

Key parts of their transformation into civilized members of the world which were skipped in Iraq/Afghanland were:

1 - Unconditional surrender. Victory in war is achieved not by breaking the enemy's machine but by breaking the enemy's will to fight. This is most easily achieved by removing from their mind's all belief that they could ever win. A lack of western resolve left Osama (Not the POTUS Snoopy and aitch, that's Obama.) and Saddam believing that they could win until the day they died. Unlike WWII where we made the Japanese and German gubmints agree publicly to unconditional surrender ... Bush bowed down to his critics and attempted to fight a war whose goal was to achieve victory in the slowest and most painful of manners.

2 - Occupation and reeducation. In postwar Germany every German citizen was forced to be educated on why there nation had been destroyed and the evil their leaders had wrought. A similar campaign was conducted in Japan. </div></div>

I think both points are highly specious. First, I don't think 'unconditional surrender' is an option in the war on terror (Islamic terrorists) that is apparently not well connected around the world. No one represents or speaks for the enemy therefore no one is available to surrender.


<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Wrong! Both al Qaeda, and the Taliban, have leaders who regularly speak for their organizations of terrorists. Guess you haven't noticed their regular release of video's. </span> </span> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif

Second, Occupation and Re-education is also extremely problematic in countries that are Muslim when the religion supports the terrorism.


<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Oh my, wrong again, the Muslim Religion does not support terrorism. The vast majority of Muslims are completely against terrorist, AND violence, they are known as MODERATE MUSLIMS, and they represent the vast majority of Muslims in the world. </span> </span>



If we have a significant problem here with home grown terrorists (and we do), it is hard to believe that that same problem won't be a geometrically greater problem where virtually all of the population is Muslim.

<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>We do have a significant problem with home grown terrorists here, but they aren't Muslims, they are radical RW Christian fundamentalists, and Rw Radical White supremecists, and Militias, which, until Repiglilcan got back into power, and started to limit our ability to monitor said radical Christian Fundamentalists, who have, BTw, murdered many Americans, had been singled out by the Southern Poverty Law Center, as our greatest terrorist threat, in this country.

</span> </span>

No country can afford to undertake efforts on the scale that we have done in Iraq in multiple countries...and the Iraq experiment is anything but conclusive.


<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Aain, the policy of your own Repiglican party, which Bush allowed to grow into a major problem, by insisting that we Surge In Iraq, which totally failed, since Iraq was in an unidentified CIVI WAR for a whole year, and Bagdad, still suffering suicide bombers recently.

Bush's Fiasco in the Middle East, has been the single greatest economic problem we have, and continues to be so, annd President Obama, has kept to his word, to attempt to extricate us from the Middle East, with some honor. </span> </span>

Though it is hardly worth the reading, my idea is to put real efforts into rebuilding our intelligence capability so we can identify problem areas and deal with them with small force structure, including special ops.

<span style="color: #990000"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Yes, well that was exactly what the left was saying, including me, (all in the archives, BTW) back when Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and The AMerican Enterprise Institute of NEOCONS lied us into the invasion ad occupation of Iraq, illegally, annd solely for the purpose of providing oil contracts for their corporate crony energy corporations, which they all came from, such as Halliburton, annd The Carlyle Group, and Blackwater, all of them linked to Energy annd Repiglicans. </span> </span>



Secondly, we need to renew our constitutional republic here at home as a model for the rest of the world to emulate, becoming once again The Shining City on the Hill. And third, to help others who want help achieving their own freedom mostly through education. A new paradigm. (of course, we will need some liberal re-education camps)

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<span style="color: #990000"><span style='font-size: 14pt'>America will never be a Shining City On The Hill, everr again.

The shame of being a country who tortured innocent prisoners, lied to the world in order to secure oil contracts, for the Administrations cronies, broke decades old Agreements, of the Geneva Conventions, and allowed corporate War profiteering, by corporations linked to Bush and Cheney, to execute our troops, throught their incompentence, and negligence, all for profit, not to mention the American Republican Presidents, like Bush and REagan, who both committed War Crimes annd Treason, we have lost our honor.

Polls around the world, proved that the Bush Administration, destroyed AMerica's honor, although, it greatly increased, after President Obama was sworn into office.

Oh, and Reagan, was nothing but a good BSer, a b. actor, who made most of his money by peddling ciragettes.

He committed treason, and he was a colossal liar, who ushered in the first signs of a fascist takeover, by the right, here in America.

G.</span> </span>

llotter
06-24-2011, 10:32 AM
It's always entertaining to read your posts, Gayle. Even though it seems like I've read the same post a thousand times, you never fail to bring a smile to my lips.

As I think about responses line by line, the same thought comes up over and over again...'what's the use?'

Soflasnapper
06-24-2011, 06:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice rationalization, though frankly too over the top to be taken seriously. I'm pretty sure, however, that most will be as surprised as I was to realize those totals. </div></div>

I will say that I didn't know that had yet taken place. I was sure it would, however, and therefore wasn't surprised to learn it had.

What would one expect to happen if you put 30,000 MORE troops in and got more aggressive in tactics, EXCEPT that you'd have more casualties on our side, including the dreaded friendly fire KIA.

It's a no-brainer that our casualties would be up substantially. If you want to say you're surprised that the total has reached well beyond the US and allied death tolls of the prior 8 years, that's a valid point, I suppose.

Look what happened in Vietnam, after the guy with the secret peace plan got in office. We had iirc almost HALF the total US dead occur in his tenure as we were allegedly winding down the war according to that secret peace plan.

llotter
06-25-2011, 11:09 AM
The point of the thread was the lack of daily updates on the dead soldiers which were visible everywhere in the media, with the implied condemnation of Bush, not that deaths in war are unexpected. Because there were so few updates, one might expect there were few deaths but obviously that wasn't the case. It appears to me that there were so few updates because the media was loathe to cast any responsibility The Moron's way.

Soflasnapper
06-25-2011, 01:05 PM
Unless you have the resources to more fully monitor 'the media,' and keep metrics, I don't think you really know that your claim is true. You have an anecdotal claim, based on the limited subset of media that you are in contact with, even assuming you remember all you've seen correctly over a multi-year period.

Is it actually true? That Bush had AFGHANISTAN deaths constantly put up on front page headlines (or their electronic media equivalents) into his LAST YEARS (when the war was getting to be very old news, having lasted 7-8 YEARS), TO BLAME HIM, and then it all stopped, or substantially ebbed, only the last two years?

Not in my opinion. I think the media became jaded to the continuing death and wounding of our soldiers DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION ITSELF, and in particular, very early on discounted the Afghan death reports. Even assuming they did the earlier more high profile reporting to damage Bush's image, they'd evidently figure it had been enough, and as of his last two years, if that had been their goal, mission accomplished (as someone once said).

And the way I recall it all, the Afghan engagement became neglected news early on, as soon as we had the far larger deaths in Iraq to report.

LWW
06-25-2011, 02:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless you have the resources to more fully monitor 'the media,' and keep metrics, I don't think you really know that your claim is true.</div></div>

OH PLEASE!

Your current denial is analogous to living through 100 straight days of blistering sun and then having insufficient data to claim it's not sunny when there is finally a thunderstorm.

Soflasnapper
06-25-2011, 09:18 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless you have the resources to more fully monitor 'the media,' and keep metrics, I don't think you really know that your claim is true.</div></div>

OH PLEASE!

Your current denial is analogous to living through 100 straight days of blistering sun and then having insufficient data to claim it's not sunny when there is finally a thunderstorm. </div></div>

A creative analogy that doesn't address this question whatsoever.

C'mon, not even some phony Brent Bozell report?

Fact is, **I** noticed and commented years ago that the casualty tolls EVEN IN IRAQ were no longer being reported on the front page of the local papers. So back atya.

Soflasnapper
06-25-2011, 10:05 PM
Here is a source that mentions what I observed, that even IRAQ DEATHS went off the headlines and weren't covered, toward the end. Also it appears that both O'Reilly and Limbaugh provided considerable mention of US casualties, not likely for the purposes of trashing W, as those that watched/heard their shows were more accurate in surveys asking the numbers of US dead in Iraq than those that didn't (which see below).

Lastly, as this piece mentions, the elite supposed 'liberal media' did NOT oppose this war, but rather, supported it [as it was kosher as a War for the Jews (TM), my editorial comment not stated as the reason, but you can bet it was].

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is strong evidence, however, that Americans pay close attention
to U.S. casualties in Iraq on a more general level. Table 7.2 reproduces the
findings of polls conducted by the Pew Research Center from 2006
through 2008.73 The results demonstrate that most Americans did pay
close attention to casualties in the news, as over 60 percent of respondents correctly estimated the number of Americans killed in both 2006 and
2007, although only a plurality were able to do so in 2008. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>The 2008
decline in casualty awareness can likely be explained by the fact that the
issue of Iraq largely fell out of major newspaper headlines and television
stories by late 2007 following the surge, and because American casualties
had reached an all-time low by this period.74 Decreased attention to Iraq,
then, was followed by increased public ignorance about the number of
U.S. military deaths in the country.</span>

Further examination of the Pew polls finds that although knowledge of
casualties was high across different demographics, those who followed
news on Iraq were statistically more likely to provide an accurate estimate
of the number of U.S. soldiers killed. More specifically, consumers of
Rush Limbaugh’s radio program, NPR listeners, and Fox News Bill
O’Reilly viewers were better able to provide the correct number of
Americans killed, as compared to those who did not consume these programs.
75 In short, a majority of Americans appear to have followed stories
on U.S. casualties in the news on some level, and regular news consumers
are particularly effective at providing information on casualty levels.

Much of the limited month-by-month variation in coverage of casualties
is explained by the media’s reliance on official sources. Officials at the
Department of Defense exercise tremendous informal power over reporting,
with 75 percent of the stories on casualties in the New York Times
every month based solely on press statements released by the DOD listing
the names of the dead.76 Only one-quarter of the stories in the New
York Times originate from the actual reporting of events in Iraq that led to
the deaths of soldiers. Fluctuation in month-to-month reporting, then, is
influenced more directly by the decision of military officials to release
casualty reports than it is upon actual changes in the number of attacks
and deaths on the ground in the war zone.

The great irony of the findings in this chapter is that elite media never
intended to foster antiwar dissent in their reporting of casualties and violence
in Iraq. The liberal editors of papers such as the New York Times
and Los Angeles Times did not even endorse a withdrawal from Iraq
timetable until 2007, almost four years into the conflict. Nonetheless, simply
by reporting that Iraqi violence and American casualties were on the
rise from 2003 through 2007, it appears that national news outlets played
a major role in mobilizing public opposition to war. As Figure 7.8 suggests,
the most important period in terms of the media’s effect appears to
be from mid-2003 through mid-2005.

As violence in Iraq grew rapidly from relative calm to thousands of
attacks per month in 2004 and 2005, Americans grew increasingly skeptical
of a war that appeared to be spiraling out of control. Figure 7.8 suggests
that public opposition grew most strongly during months when coverage
of the violence increased dramatically.77 This rapid growth in violence
stood in stark contrast to the promises of the Bush administration
that United States forces would be greeted as “liberators” and that the
resistance against the occupation was confined to a few “dead enders.” </div></div>

From 'When Media Goes to War' (http://www.readingfromtheleft.com/Books/MR/WhenMediaGoesToWar.pdf)

llotter
06-26-2011, 10:22 AM
Yes, this story makes my point. Interest waned as the death toll decreased but when it increased under The Pathetic Moron, there remained no interest. I am suggesting that the MSM have no interest in printing anything that reflects poorly on Dear Leader.

LWW
06-26-2011, 11:25 AM
I wonder why nobody on the left discusses which 2 US presidents had the most military deaths in a year since Viet Nam?

LWW
06-26-2011, 11:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am suggesting that the MSM have no interest in printing anything that reflects poorly on Dear Leader. </div></div>

Mrs Dear Leader recently thanked the Obamedia for their help.

Soflasnapper
06-26-2011, 02:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, this story makes my point. Interest waned as the death toll decreased but when it increased under The Pathetic Moron, there remained no interest. I am suggesting that the MSM have no interest in printing anything that reflects poorly on Dear Leader. </div></div>

We just saw verification that a wide percentage of the American people could correctly state the number of Iraqi deaths (up to some calendar date), and then they couldn't do that as well (dropping to a plurality, as the coverage waned and interest fell).

I couldn't find ANY such similar knowledge among the people about the Afghanistan death toll-- EVER. Not even when it might have redounded against W, which is the theory about the Iraq casualty totals being pushed.

What I found was media discussing how, when W turned his focus to the Iraq situation, the national and media focus went there as well, with apparently the fall of Kabul being the last time things were headlined there early in the decade.

Now, apparently, US deaths are characterized as deaths among the international force as the headline, sometimes not specified as to nationality, or only broken down deeper in the article, not a headline number. Americans yawn at deaths of an international force when they do not say they are Americans.

Here's an article explaining that part:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The headline, dated 5/26/11, was from Reuters U.S. Edition. It reads, "Roadside Bomb Kills Seven NATO Troops in Afghanistan." The first paragraph of the syndicated story expounds upon the headline, saying,

"(Reuters) - Seven members of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) were killed by a roadside bomb in southern Afghanistan on Thursday, the coalition said, the worst single incident involving foreign troops in a month. The ISAF did not specify the nationalities of those killed but U.S., British and Canadian troops make up the bulk of the foreign force in the south. Almost 200 foreign troops have been killed in Afghanistan so far this year."

Given the way the headline and opening paragraph is worded, it would be relatively easy for the average American reader to skim right past it. While the verbiage might cause some readers to momentarily ponder the fates of the "foreign ISAF" troops killed, the great majority of readers would most likely move on to the next story without giving it a thought. After all, the deaths of foreign ISAF troops may be a problem, but it's someone else's problem, right?

Wrong. The truth is, those seven "foreign ISAF" soldiers were American soldiers. In fact, subsequent reports confirmed that eight soldiers (of which seven were American) and two Afghan policemen also died in the explosion. Two additional Afghan policemen were wounded in the explosion, which occured in the mountainous Shorabak district of Kandahar province, 12 miles from the Pakistan border. The Taliban, in a telephone call to the Associated Press, claimed responsibility for the blast, saying "A bomb was planted for them in a field."

The question that should be on the minds of every American who cares about our troops, and about how we conduct wars abroad, is why didn't we get that version of the story the first time around? </div></div>

From InfoBarrell (http://www.infobarrel.com/How_the_Media_Hides_the_Truth_About_US_Afghan_Deat hs)

But this doesn't show any difference in AFGHAN war coverage between the presidents in office, and the Afghan conflict has ALWAYS been underreported.

Gayle in MD
06-29-2011, 04:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The point of the thread was the lack of daily updates on the dead soldiers which were visible everywhere in the media, with the implied condemnation of Bush, not that deaths in war are unexpected. Because there were so few updates, one might expect there were few deaths but obviously that wasn't the case. It appears to me that there were so few updates because the media was loathe to cast any responsibility The Moron's way. </div></div>


Where do you get this idiotic idea, that there are no updates of casualties?

Your entire premise, is wrong.

You simply choose not to watch, or read news from the left, where updates on our casualites, in the entire Middle East, on news programs, in the NYT, are standard, with daily updates, BTW!

I am left to suppose, that your station, FUX NOISE, isn't reporting them....

BTW, we lost fourteen in Afghanistan, last week, as was reported on every major Sunday Morning program last Sunday, as is done regularly, every single week!

Turn Off FUX NOISE, and you'll be amazed how much you will learn, including the number of weekly casualties.

G.

hondo
06-29-2011, 05:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The point of the thread was the lack of daily updates on the dead soldiers which were visible everywhere in the media, with the implied condemnation of Bush, not that deaths in war are unexpected. Because there were so few updates, one might expect there were few deaths but obviously that wasn't the case. It appears to me that there were so few updates because the media was loathe to cast any responsibility The Moron's way. </div></div>


Where do you get this idiotic idea, that there are no updates of casualties?

Your entire premise, is wrong.

You simply choose not to watch, or read news from the left, where updates on our casualites, kin the Menntire Middle East, and in the NYT, are standard, with daily updates, BTW!

I am left to suppose, that your station, FUX NOISE, isn't reporting them....

BTW, we lost fourteen in Afghanistan, last week, as was reported on every major Sunday Morning program last Sunday, like every sibgle week!

Turn Off FUX NOISE, and you'll be amazed how much you will learn, including the number of weekly casualties.

G. </div></div>

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif Good post, Gayle!

LWW
06-29-2011, 03:31 PM
Actually it was nonsense.

According to you and Charlotte, Fox is out to get Obama ... so why aren't they trumpeting the losses in the middle east?