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LWW
06-28-2011, 08:08 AM
What the mob can so easily be made to believe:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is no Democrat, not one single one, who is advocating for "Amnesty."

G. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They get worse when they're wrong, which explains why they're always so nasty.

There is no Amnesty Bill. There is no Democratic effort to award amnesty to all illegal immigrants.

Only Reagan did that.

Their "facts" are never correct. They only present FOXTOIDS, Limpballed in from Beckistan, and approved by the Palinban, lol.
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G. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This is not an Amnesty Bill

G. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sen. Dick Durbin plans to make a full-court press Tuesday to revive the debate over a controversial proposal to give illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children a path to legal status, as the Obama administration moves on a separate track to grant what some describe as "amnesty" to the same group. </div></div>

OH DEAR! (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/27/dems-push-ahead-with-dream-act-as-ice-offers-new-guidelines-for-illegal/?test=latestnews)

eg8r
06-28-2011, 09:02 AM
She knows amensty is their desire but cannot admit it because then she would be at odds with the Dems and that cannot happen at this point in time.


eg8r

LWW
06-28-2011, 10:22 AM
Once it's passed ... she will have been for it the entire time.

Soflasnapper
06-28-2011, 06:29 PM
To my mind, amnesty means absolution from criminal prosecution, as when Carter gave amnesty to all who'd draft dodged by leaving the country.

However, illegal immigrants are breaking civil laws not criminal laws (generally, except criminal law in Arizona), and they do not face jail time, per se, only incarceration pending deportation.

What amnesty means in this case to those using the term perjoratively is to make these people eligible for a path to citizenship without leaving the country and getting at the back of the line.

LWW
06-29-2011, 01:34 AM
And then there is the truth ... (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/19/4/III/II/1459)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">19 U.S.C. 1459 : US Code - Section 1459: Reporting requirements for individuals

(a) Individuals arriving other than by conveyance
Except as otherwise authorized by the Secretary, individuals
arriving in the United States other than by vessel, vehicle, or
aircraft shall -
(1) enter the United States only at a border crossing point
designated by the Secretary; and
(2) immediately -
(A) report the arrival, and
(B) present themselves, and all articles accompanying them
for inspection;
to the customs officer at the customs facility designated for
that crossing point.
(b) Individuals arriving by reported conveyance
Except as otherwise authorized by the Secretary, passengers and
crew members aboard a conveyance the arrival in the United States
of which was made or reported in accordance with section 1433 or
1644 of this title or section 1644a(b)(1) or (c)(1) of this title,
or in accordance with applicable regulations, shall remain aboard
the conveyance until authorized to depart the conveyance by the
appropriate customs officer. Upon departing the conveyance, the
passengers and crew members shall immediately report to the
designated customs facility with all articles accompanying them.
(c) Individuals arriving by unreported conveyance
Except as otherwise authorized by the Secretary, individuals
aboard a conveyance the arrival in the United States of which was
not made or reported in accordance with the laws or regulations
referred to in subsection (b) of this section shall immediately
notify a customs officer and report their arrival, together with
appropriate information concerning the conveyance on or in which
they arrived, and present their property for customs examination
and inspection.
(d) Departure from designated customs facilities
Except as otherwise authorized by the Secretary, any person
required to report to a designated customs facility under
subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this section may not depart that
facility until authorized to do so by the appropriate customs
officer.
(e) Unlawful acts
It is unlawful -
(1) to fail to comply with subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this
section;
(2) to present any forged, altered, or false document or paper
to a customs officer under subsection (a), (b), or (c) of this
section without revealing the facts;
(3) to violate subsection (d) of this section; or
(4) to fail to comply with, or violate, any regulation
prescribed to carry out subsection (a), (b), (c), or (d) of this
section.
(f) Civil penalty
Any individual who violates any provision of subsection (e) of
this section is liable for a civil penalty of $5,000 for the first
violation, and $10,000 for each subsequent violation.
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>(g) Criminal penalty
In addition to being liable for a civil penalty under subsection
(f) of this section, any individual who intentionally violates any
provision of subsection (e) of this section is, upon conviction,
liable for a fine of not more than $5,000, or imprisonment for not
more than 1 year, or both.</span> </div></div>