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LWW
07-08-2011, 06:38 AM
INCLUDING (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2006-54) Obama, Biden, Reid, Clinton, Dodd, Boxer, Feinstein, Baucus, Kerry, Kennedy, Schumer, Rockefeller, Byrd, Feingold, Coburn and Durbin.

In fairness, the republichickens voted overwhelmingly for it.

Proof again that our federal gubmint is full of hypocrites following an agenda to maintain their own power.

This is where an O-cultist explains that raising the debt limit was bad, but now is good ... and that they have always been for it when they were told they were for it while always being against it when they were told they were against it.

This "WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA!" expose' has been brought to you by El Dubb Dubb ... doing the work the American media just won't do anymore.

Qtec
07-08-2011, 06:48 AM
How come it got passed with ONLY 51 votes? Everyone knows you need 60 votes to pass anything in the senate.?

Mystified.

If the Dems had used the fillibuster and threatened to default the USA - ie damage the credibility of the US Govt- if they didn't get their demands met, then you might have something.

Anyone with the slightest grain of objectivity knows that the Dems could not win and this was a protest vote.

Q

LWW
07-08-2011, 07:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How come it got passed with ONLY 51 votes? Everyone knows you need 60 votes to pass anything in the senate.?

Mystified.

If the Dems had used the fillibuster and threatened to default the USA - ie damage the credibility of the US Govt- if they didn't get their demands met, then you might have something.

Anyone with the slightest grain of objectivity knows that the Dems could not win and this was a protest vote.

Q </div></div>

You silly boy.

The answer is self evident.

The democrooks pushed an essentially unanimous R vote, because had they used the filibuster more of them would have to vote for it to get it to pass.

IOW ... they weren't actually against the increase, they just wanted plausible deniability so lemmings like yourself would go "OH HELL NO!" when they denounced the R's for raising the limit.

The R's may pull the same tactic here, forcing Obama to browbeat all 51 democrooks to vote for the increase.

If that's the case, you won't be watching a legislative body representing the people ... you will be watching a replay of a Stalinesque show vote.

Thinking people can see the obvious hypocrisy at work here.

Soflasnapper
07-08-2011, 10:42 AM
As you later admitted, they did not vote for default at all.

LWW
07-08-2011, 05:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As you later admitted, they did not vote for default at all. </div></div>

I apologize that my satire is lost on you, as it is on most leftists.

But since you seem to want to debate the point, how is it that when the R's want to vote against a debt limit it's a vote for default that will send the world economy into a second great depression ... according to most leftists and the vast majority of the major media ... yet when the democrooks want to vote against a debt limit it's deemed a vote for reckless deficits that will send the world economy into a second great depression?

LWW
07-08-2011, 05:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As you later admitted, they did not vote for default at all. </div></div>

Also .. let me add that if the D's actually didn't, then the R's actually aren't.

Soflasnapper
07-09-2011, 03:45 PM
It depends on if the vote no can carry the day or not.

If a party is in the minority, they all could vote no, and yet that House of Congress still pass the debt limit expansion.

That was the case in the situation you brought up.

Now, the GOP is in the majority position in the House. If they all vote no, even a unanimous D vote yes will find the debt limit expansion defeated, and defeating it in one house of Congress defeats it entirely.

Which is the reason the GOP is now playing chicken on the road, or Russian Roulette, or whatever you want to call their extortionist demands, as opposed to only making a political point which won't affect the passage of this ultimately.

Moreover, much of their partisan base WANTS THIS DEFAULT TO HAPPEN, for reasons which, if they even exist, are totally erroneous, and for which the results will be counterproductive to what their stated goals are.

Doubling, tripling, quadrupling or more, the interest rates the government must pay on its existing and new debt, after the dust settles on such a refusal to pay our bills for a time, is not in the country's interest, will exacerbate our deficits and debt, and crash the economy. Other than that, perhaps not all bad, admittedly.

LWW
07-09-2011, 05:13 PM
1 - In your own words, what are these "extortionist demands" you claim exist.

2 - A default on our debt is an absolute impossibility whether a deal is reached or not.