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Gayle in MD
07-13-2011, 10:21 AM
Truth Wins Out: Undercover operation finds that Marcus Bachmann’s clinic works to 'cure' gay people
News release from Truth Wins Out:

TWO’s Investigation Contradicts Bachmann’s Denials That His Clinic Practices ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy



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During a weeklong Truth Wins Out undercover investigation inside Bachmann & Associates with hidden cameras, Becker, attended five private sessions with Bachmann & Associates counselor Timothy Wiertzema.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MINNEAPOLIS – An investigation by Truth Wins Out revealed today that the clinic of Marcus Bachmann, the husband of presidential candidate Michele Bachmann (R-MN), practices reparative therapy, a controversial and discredited clinical method designed to “cure” gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people. TWO’s findings contradict claims by Mr. Bachmann that he and his clinic, Bachmann & Associates, do not participate in reparative therapy. The story broke today in The Nation magazine where Mariah Blake reported on the results of our investigation.

“The results of our investigation should end all doubt whether Marcus Bachmann’s clinic endorses and practices reparative therapy aimed at changing a gay person’s sexual orientation,” said Truth Wins Out’s Executive Director Wayne Besen. “The facts plainly show that Bachmann’s clinic does try to cure gay people and he is being evasive when he claims otherwise.”

“It’s time for Michele and Marcus Bachmann to stop denying, dodging, and stonewalling,” added Truth Wins Out’s Communications and Development Director John Becker. “They owe it to all Americans to provide a full and honest explanation for their embrace of these dangerous and fraudulent practices.”

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The undeniable goal of the sessions was transforming Becker from homosexual to heterosexual. To his credit, the counselor did not claim that change would be instantaneous or even complete. However, he did explicitly promise that sexual conversion could occur as a result of prayer and therapy at the clinic.

During one of the sessions Wiertzema said, “…It’s possible to be totally free of [same-sex attraction]. For sure.” And that, “It’s happened! It really has happened to people.” In the fifth session, Wiertzema said, “…Obviously your goal is not to have any feelings of attraction for men…And I really am going to recommend that we start working on how you can develop your attraction towards women.”

At no time during the therapy was homosexuality portrayed as a natural variation of human sexuality. Instead it was presented as a treatable condition at odds with a normal and healthy sexual orientation. Becker was told by Wiertzema that “God designed our eyes to be attracted to the woman’s body, to be attracted to everything, to be attracted to her breasts.” Furthermore, according to Timothy, “We’re all heterosexuals, but we have different challenges.” Attraction to the same sex “is there, and it’s real, but at the core value, in terms of how God created us, we’re all heterosexual.”

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Becker was never given nor asked to sign any kind of informed consent document that disclosed the dangers of or alternatives to “ex-gay” therapy. As such, TWO believes Bachmann & Associates to be practicing unethically, even by the standards of the American Association of Christian Counselors. Such therapy is considered ineffective and potentially harmful by The American Psychological Association, The American Medical Association, The American Academy of Pediatrics, and The American Psychiatric Association.

“What I found was particularly disconcerting given the fact that Marcus Bachmann’s clinic has received significant funding from the State of Minnesota and the federal government,” said Becker.



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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For sale inside the clinic was Minnesota “ex-gay” minister Janet Boynes’ book Called Out. It was accompanied by a typewritten note featuring Mr. Bachmann’s endorsement: “Janet is a friend. I recommend this book as she speaks to the heart of the matter and gives practical insights of truth to set people free. – Marcus Bachmann, PhD.”

“It appears that the Bachmann family is trying to distance themselves from some of their more extreme beliefs in an attempt to appeal to mainstream Americans,” said TWO’s Besen. “We think it is important that voters have accurate information and we hope our investigation sheds some light on their genuine views.”

Truth Wins Out is a non-profit organization that fights anti-LGBT religious extremism. TWO specializes in turning information into action by organizing, advocating and fighting for LGBT equality.



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llotter
07-13-2011, 10:48 AM
I didn't see where Bachmann denied that they were helping cure the homos. My support started out fairly tepid but is getting stronger by the day. I think she also wants to eliminate the minimum wage and that would be a very courageous position. She has a titanium spine and she's going to need it.

Gayle in MD
07-13-2011, 11:33 AM
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/video-mojo-presses-bachmann-comment-gay-therapy-stories

Gayle in MD
07-13-2011, 11:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't see where Bachmann denied that they were helping cure the 1homos. My support started out fairly tepid but is getting stronger by the day. I think she also wants to eliminate the minimum wage and that would be a very courageous position. She has a titanium spine and she's going to need it. </div></div>

LMAO!

You are Out there!


http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/07/video-mojo-presses-bachmann-comment-gay-therapy-stories

Soflasnapper
07-13-2011, 11:44 AM
Based on his speech patterns, florid wording, and extreme revulsion, many have theorized Marcus is gay himself. Like the other 'cure the gay' guy, with the rent-a-gay traveling companion.

llotter
07-13-2011, 11:46 AM
Again, no denial. I don't know why they would deny any efforts to help the homos anyway aside from avoiding the controversy of being politically incorrect. The Left is just shouting them down for not celebrating the gay lifestyle rather than attempting to fix it. Our culture is normalizing what should not be normalized and thankfully there are people like the Bachmanns that are standing against the wrongs that are being foisted on our society.

Gayle in MD
07-13-2011, 02:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Again, no denial. I don't know why they would deny any efforts to help the homos anyway aside from avoiding the controversy of being politically incorrect. The Left is just shouting them down for not celebrating the gay lifestyle rather than attempting to fix it. Our culture is normalizing what should not be normalized and thankfully there are people like the Bachmanns that are standing against the wrongs that are being foisted on our society. </div></div>

Foisted??? The only thing being foisted against our society is the hatred of others by the religious radical Rw of the Repiglican Party, and the corruption annd lies of their representatives, among which, are the Bachmann's!

Being Gay, is not a decision. Being in favor of condemning a group of Americans, for something over which they have no choice, is called unAMerican.

Making money by selling something to others which does not exist, "Fixing Homosexuality," as the Bachmann's are doing, under false pretenses, is called conning people out of their money!

Your approval of it, is just more proof of your religious zealot views, and your inability to accept scientific facts, choosing instead, to demonize others for being who and what they are, demonizing them for it, and trying to supress their rights.

Bachmann yaps about government spending, while she and her husband are piling up their own Government subsidy money, for their own financial advancement.

She's a liar, and a hypocrite. Worse than that, she thinks she can dance!

G.

Gayle in MD
07-13-2011, 11:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Based on his speech patterns, florid wording, and extreme revulsion, many have theorized Marcus is gay himself. Like the other 'cure the gay' guy, with the rent-a-gay traveling companion. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fred Karger: Michele Bachmann A Liar, 'Hypocrite And Bigot'


Republican presidential candidate Fred Karger, the first openly-gay contender to vie for his party's nomination, sharply criticized rival GOP hopeful Michele Bachmann in an exclusive interview with the Michigan Messenger published online on Wednesday.

Karger took aim at Bachmann over controversial therapy methods reportedly practiced at her husband's Minnesota clinic.

Last week, The Nation reported that the clinic practiced reparative therapy, which the publication explains treats being gay as a curable disorder. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>When asked to share her opinion of such practices and whether they are used at her husband's clinic by a reporter for WQAD, an ABC affiliate, Bachmann declined to address the matter. </span>A report released by ABC News earlier this week offered an inside look at the practices and treatment offered at the center.

"She's a liar and now that she's been busted, she's trying to divert attention away from her lies," Karger said of Bachmann to the Messenger in speaking out on the matter. "She is just another hypocrite and bigot."



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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/13/fred-karger-michele-bachmann_n_897540.html