View Full Version : Most Registered Voters 2Blame Repigs 4 Debt Crisis
Gayle in MD
07-14-2011, 02:39 PM
<span style="color: #990000">Proof, most will blame Repiglicans, as well they should, if the Debt Limit isn't raised, and additionally, at a time of potential economic crisis, proof that McConnell is only playing political games, in his CYA attempts to skew the facts about which is the obstructing, do nothing, party of NO. </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WASHINGTON -- The country may not default on its debt obligations for another three weeks, but that hasn't stopped the public from getting ready to place blame should a debt ceiling agreement not be reached in time.
A plurality of registered voters said congressional Republicans are to blame in the event the debt ceiling is not raised in a poll conducted by Quinnipiac University from July 5-11.
When asked to whom they would assign responsibility should the limit not be raised, 48 percent of respondents chose the congressional Republicans; 34 percent said they would blame the Obama administration.
These results echo a Pew Research Center poll conducted from June 16-19 which asked the same question as the Quinnipiac poll. According to that survey, 42 percent of respondents said they would blame Republicans in Congress if the debt ceiling were not raised; 33 percent chose the Obama Administration.
The findings highlight the political repercussions that the GOP could confront should default occur. They also may explain Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-K.Y.) recent decision to author a plan that would place the burden for raising the debt ceiling squarely on President Obama, by giving him the power to continue to borrow money, which could only be vetoed by a two-thirds majority in Congress. Explaining his concept the day after it was introduced, McConnell bluntly admitted that it was driven by political calculations.
"If we go into default he [Obama] will say Republicans are making the economy worse," McConell concluded. "And all of a sudden we have co-ownership of a bad economy."
Gayle in MD
07-14-2011, 03:55 PM
<span style="color: #990000">More Proof, and from a Conservative Op-Ed Journalist. </span>
The Mother of All No-Brainers
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: July 4, 2011
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If the Republican Party were a normal party, it would take advantage of this amazing moment. It is being offered the deal of the century: trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases.
A normal Republican Party would seize the opportunity to put a long-term limit on the growth of government. It would seize the opportunity to put the country on a sound fiscal footing. It would seize the opportunity to do these things without putting any real crimp in economic growth.
The party is not being asked to raise marginal tax rates in a way that might pervert incentives. On the contrary, Republicans are merely being asked to close loopholes and eliminate tax expenditures that are themselves distortionary.
This, as I say, is the mother of all no-brainers.
But we can have no confidence that the Republicans will seize this opportunity. Thatís because the Republican Party may no longer be a normal party. Over the past few years, it has been infected by a faction that is more of a psychological protest than a practical, governing alternative.
The members of this movement do not accept the logic of compromise, no matter how sweet the terms. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch in order to cut government by a foot, they will say no. If you ask them to raise taxes by an inch to cut government by a yard, they will still say no.
The members of this movement do not accept the legitimacy of scholars and intellectual authorities. A thousand impartial experts may tell them that a default on the debt would have calamitous effects, far worse than raising tax revenues a bit. But the members of this movement refuse to believe it.
The members of this movement have no sense of moral decency. A nation makes a sacred pledge to pay the money back when it borrows money. But the members of this movement talk blandly of default and are willing to stain their nationís honor.
The members of this movement have no economic theory worthy of the name. Economists have identified many factors that contribute to economic growth, ranging from the productivity of the work force to the share of private savings that is available for private investment. Tax levels matter, but they are far from the only or even the most important factor.
But to members of this movement, tax levels are everything. Members of this tendency have taken a small piece of economic policy and turned it into a sacred fixation. They are willing to cut education and research to preserve tax expenditures. Manufacturing employment is cratering even as output rises, but members of this movement somehow believe such problems can be addressed so long as they continue to worship their idol.
Over the past week, Democrats have stopped making concessions. They are coming to the conclusion that if the Republicans are fanatics then they better be fanatics, too.
The struggles of the next few weeks are about what sort of party the G.O.P. is ó a normal conservative party or an odd protest movement that has separated itself from normal governance, the normal rules of evidence and the ancient habits of our nation.
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>If the debt ceiling talks fail, independent voters will see that Democrats were willing to compromise but Republicans were not. If responsible Republicans donít take control, independents will conclude that Republican fanaticism caused this default. They will conclude that Republicans are not fit to govern.
And they will be right. </span> </div></div>
How easily manipulated you are.
Did you bother to look at the poll itself?
Of course you didn't.
You accepted the spoon fed lie that you wanted to hear.
Had yo went to the poll itself, you would have found than when the question was reworded as:
"If the federal government shuts down because [RANDOMIZE: Republicans and the Obama administration] canít agree on a budget, who do you think would be more to blame: [READ IN SAME ORDER AS ABOVE: Republicans or the Obama administration]?"
then you would have seen that the gap closed to 36%-35% ...
<span style='font-size: 26pt'>BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!</span> ...
You would also have found that although they called the households of registered voters, their methodology wasn't to actually poll registered voters. Instead they most often polled the college age kids of the registered voters:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Respondents in the landline sample were selected by randomly
asking for the youngest adult male or female who is now at home.</div></div>
But sit tight folks, we aren't done yet.
They also over-sampled democrooks.
So, in closing, they went after the youngest 18+ person in the household ... which is a highly leftist group.
When that didn't get the desired result they went to a heavier democrook parents sampling.
When all they could get their was a statistical dead heat they started playing with the wording and ... VOILA!
A spoonful of Bravo Sierra was fed to the waiting mob ... and they licked it clean and begged for more.
<span style='font-size: 14pt'>BOVINE SCAT ... GETCHA BOVINE SCAT RIGHT HERE ... GET IT WHILE IT'S HOT! (http://people-press.org/files/legacy-questionnaires/6-20-11%20Topline%20and%20about-the-survey%20for%20PP-WaPo%20release.pdf)</span>
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