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Gayle in MD
07-14-2011, 01:51 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Scott Walker Critics Say Effort To Recall Wisconsin Governor Likely To Prevail In 2012


MADISON (Reuters) - Wisconsin Democrats are increasingly confident that efforts to recall the state's Republican governor in 2012 will succeed, a top official said on Wednesday, after the party scored an early win in its battle to unseat Republicans who backed a controversial anti-union law.

Mike Tate, the chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, said his party's sweep of six unusual primary races on Tuesday night had energized the party's base, and he also expected to seize a majority in the state Senate in August recall elections.

Tate said Tuesday's primary races, where six real Democrats were unsuccessfully challenged by six stealth Republicans running as Democrats, had served as a dry run for the party's get-out-the-vote operation.

"What we're beginning to see is our momentum rolling downhill. Last night was a huge win for us," he said in a conference call with reporters.

He said that would pay dividends in the real recall elections, which begin next week, as well as in next year's general election, where Wisconsin is likely to be a battleground state as President Barack Obama seeks a second term in the White House.

Tate said Governor Scott Walker, who was elected last fall and can't be recalled until he has served a year in office, would likely be forced to defend his seat next fall.



"I have every reason to believe Scott Walker is going to be recalled from office," he said. "He will lose an election if it's held in November 2012, and there is no scenario in which he can be reelected in 2014. His numbers are that bad."

Asked about a potential recall, he said: "The most likely scenario, and one that the Democratic Party will support, is a recall effort of Governor Walker in November of 2012."



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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If Democrats gain just three of the seats at stake in the special summer elections, they will take control of the upper house and have a better chance at thwarting Walker's far-reaching legislative agenda.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/14/scott-walker-recall-_n_898116.html

Sev
07-15-2011, 06:24 AM
It doesnt really matter.
The anti union steam roller is sweeping across America.

Mass government union layoffs are in the pipeline due to decreases in revenues.

Soflasnapper
07-15-2011, 10:36 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It doesnt really matter.
The anti union steam roller is sweeping across America.

Mass government union layoffs are in the pipeline due to decreases in revenues. </div></div>

The anti-union steam roller is a top-down imposed strategy, with all these GOP governors failing to run on such a plan, and only springing it upon their unsuspecting electorates as a sneak attack.

It isn't particularly a popular wave, and to the contrary, it's created a considerable backlash.

If the Dems retake majority control of the Senate in WI over their votes, and remove the recently elected governor because of this, it will surely give pause to any future newly elected governors not to try such sneak attacks in their states. It certainly does matter, if these efforts succeed.

Gayle in MD
07-15-2011, 11:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It doesnt really matter.
The anti union steam roller is sweeping across America.

Mass government union layoffs are in the pipeline due to decreases in revenues. </div></div>

The anti-union steam roller is a top-down imposed strategy, with all these GOP governors failing to run on such a plan, and only springing it upon their unsuspecting electorates as a sneak attack.

It isn't particularly a popular wave, and to the contrary, it's created a considerable backlash.

If the Dems retake majority control of the Senate in WI over their votes, and remove the recently elected governor because of this, it will surely give pause to any future newly elected governors not to try such sneak attacks in their states. It certainly does matter, if these efforts succeed. </div></div>

Yes, and after years of Republicans yapping about listening to the American People, they have surely shown, both as Governors, and those representing their constituents in the Congress, that listening to the American People, is their least important goal.

They have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that their ONLY interests are to continue with the same economic policies which have failed, and gaining more power, by blocking progress during this President's tenure, spending more money through their tax policies, by continuing to redistrubute the nation's wealth, upwards to the very wealthy, by taking our tax dollars annd using them to make the already wealthy, even wealthier.

The American people have made it very clear, all along, what they want.

Affordable Health Care.

An end to corrupt Health Insurance practices.

An end to corporations oursourcing our jobs, annd being subsidized for doing so.

A cleaner environment.

The right to form Unions, and negotiate working rights.

A balanced approach to solving the deficits caused by the Republoicans own years of unprecedented borrowing, spending, warring annd cutting our revenues, our intake, with massive wealthy friendly loophole and tax cuts, for those who do not create jobs.

the Republicans spent eight years, wasting of our resources, Warring and cutting taxes, creating huge deficits that they said didn't matter while they were running them up, and a corrupt market on Wall St., allowed to grow into a crash through the historic, Republican love of deregulation policies, which ultimately threatened our very economic solvency, costing all of us except the wealthy top investors, banks, hedge funders, insider traders, who useed confusion, and corrupt practices to steal from all of us, compliments of the "Look the other way" Bush Ownership Society, and his blank check Republican enablers of the corrupt among us.

Now, we are seeing in Wisconsin a backlash, of the Middle Class, which, IMO, is just the tip of the iceberg.

And, IMO, it will grow to every state where Republican governors have made it obvious that the Republican Party only represents the wealthy, and habitually presents their policy intentions to the public, in a very deceitful way, during campaigns, as they have done, yet again.

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They have brain washed their uninformed, religious, ideologically skewed easily distracted constituents into believing that cutting taxes, and giving away huge loopholes and subsidies to the wealthiest among us, as long as the tax policies most benefit the wealthy,.... isn't spending, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif
and that doing so, creates jobs.

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Unbelievable, after what we have all witnessed with our own eyes.

Wisconsin is just the tip of the backlash against deceitful Republicans, and their failed policies, IMO.

G.

LWW
06-06-2012, 02:44 AM
So who did the final poll support?

Soflasnapper
06-07-2012, 04:40 PM
Things looked better earlier, of course.

And, of course, the Senate changed majority hands. That is not an across the board endorsement of Walker and Co. and their actions.

There have been very few successful recalls of governors. That proved the case here, even with Walker at only a 50% approval rating.

LWW
06-08-2012, 12:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Things looked better earlier, of course.

And, of course, the Senate changed majority hands. That is not an across the board endorsement of Walker and Co. and their actions.

There have been very few successful recalls of governors. That proved the case here, even with Walker at only a 50% approval rating. </div></div>

So just because he won doesn't mean that he won?

Soflasnapper
06-08-2012, 12:45 PM
He did win, but the Wisconsin Republican party did not win everything, having lost the Senate majority for the next 6 months at least. His party's setback in this regard is also a setback for the governor and his plans for the fall session or lameduck session. That's all I'm saying.

eg8r
06-08-2012, 07:07 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He did win, but the Wisconsin Republican party did not win everything</div></div>This is your strawman. No one on this board has said anything about "the Wisconsin Republican party". Our discussions have always been around Walker. The lefty idiots on this board have always focused on Walker. Now that Walker wins you idiots back pedal as fast as possible and with a wimpy attempt to save face you start with the, "but the Wisconsin Republican party did not win everything".

LOL, does everyone around you get tired of hearing "yeah but" every time you are wrong? My guess is that you were coddled way too much in those formative years because that appears to be all you have lately.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
06-08-2012, 07:59 PM
So as a psychoanalyst, you are as much a tyro as you are in political science and knowledge of current events? So surprising!

I say what I say, and you can say what you say, if you have anything to offer except backbiting, sneering condescension and insults (not to forget your current venture into amateur psychoanalysis).

Don't worry, keep yapping.

eg8r
06-10-2012, 01:25 AM
Well you are making progress...at least this time you did not finish with a "yeah but..."

eg8r

Soflasnapper
06-10-2012, 04:48 PM
Yeah? But I could!