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Gayle in MD
07-28-2011, 08:58 PM
Talk about a divided, dysfunctional Party!!! LOL, I kept saying those Tea Party jerks would be the Repiglican Party's worst nightmare.

The <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Do Nothing </span>congress, compliments of the Party Of NO!


Unbelievable!!!!

A radical bunch of Know Nothing, Freshman, Tea Party jerks, holding the economic best interests of the country, hostage to proven damaging tax policies!

Total nonsense and gross ignorance!

Raising the debt ceiling has absolutely NOTHING to do with spending.

Boehner's plan is DOA anyway! What a waste of time and political theatrics.

Boehner will go down as one of the worst SOTH in history, can't get his own Bill to the floor! BWA HA HA HA!

Raising the debt ceiling shouldn't even be part of deficit reduction negotiations, anyway. It's a one page, on hour, act.
Not a political football.

This is a Repiglican created crisis, that will seriously damage the recovery, and could have a very bad impact on ALL Americans.

The President should use the fourteenth Amendment.

SCREW THE IDIOTIC RADICAL RIGHT, Party Of No, Obstructionists!!!

G.

cushioncrawler
07-28-2011, 09:53 PM
Gayle -- Do u meen the GOP haz lost some slaves?????? mac.

"......Validity of public debtSection 4 confirmed the legitimacy of all United States public debt appropriated by the Congress. It also confirmed that neither the United States nor any state would pay for the loss of slaves or debts that had been incurred by the Confederacy. For example, several English and French banks had lent money to the South during the war.[48] In Perry v. United States (1935), the Supreme Court ruled that under Section 4 voiding a United States government bond "went beyond the congressional power."[49]....."

eg8r
07-29-2011, 05:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Talk about a divided, dysfunctional Party!!! </div></div>Actually you are right and wrong all at the same time. Right because they all have (R) after their name wrong because some of them really are not (R)'s they are Tea Party which is refusing to give in to what Boehner is proposing, except for West. I believe he caved yesterday before even hearing any options.

I think it is a shame the lefty/righty obstructionists cannot come to common ground that meets the demands of both sides. I also think it is idiotic of anyone to think the obstructionism of getting this bill passed is partisan at all.

eg8r

LWW
07-29-2011, 06:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
SCREW THE IDIOTIC RADICAL RIGHT

G. </div></div>

May God bless them.

LWW
07-29-2011, 06:18 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Raising the debt ceiling has absolutely NOTHING to do with spending.

G. </div></div>

I hereby nominate this for dumbest post of the year.

This just in from the far left spoon ... engine horsepower has nothing to do with speed.

Qtec
07-29-2011, 06:34 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also think it is idiotic of anyone to think the obstructionism of getting this bill passed is partisan at all.

eg8r
</div></div>

How about raising revenue? Govt revenue is at its lowest point since the war. The stupid Reps have signed this stupid ´no tax hike ´pledge. Is that not partisan?



Here, I just read this fantastic article on this very subject. Its absolutely brilliant.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Obama has made this so easy for the Republicans. He has caved so many times to the right on so many issues - even the more "reasonable Republicans" (an oxymoron if there ever was one) realize they can play the blinking game knowing their odds of winning are about as good as Secretariat's was at the 1973 Belmont. His obvious weakness as a leader and his hesitancy to confront a group of people bent on his destruction has made the Republican work of making a mountain out of a molehill as easy as selling worthless credit default swaps to a bunch of insurance companies. Compromise requires compromise, not rolling over time after time. Obama has rolled over so many times - John Boehner finally figured out that those 80 or so teabaggers in Congress must really be on to something. </div></div>

the whole thing. (http://distributorcapny.blogspot.com/2011/07/little-green-apples.html)



Q

Qtec
07-29-2011, 06:36 AM
She is right. Its about paying for what already has been spent.

Q

Qtec
07-29-2011, 07:10 AM
How crazy is that? He cant even pass a bill that every Dem has said they will oppose?

Q

Gayle in MD
07-29-2011, 07:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gayle -- Do u meen the GOP haz lost some slaves?????? mac.

"......Validity of public debtSection 4 confirmed the legitimacy of all United States public debt appropriated by the Congress. It also confirmed that neither the United States nor any state would pay for the loss of slaves or debts that had been incurred by the Confederacy. For example, several English and French banks had lent money to the South during the war.[48] In Perry v. United States (1935), the Supreme Court ruled that under Section 4 voiding a United States government bond "went beyond the congressional power."[49]....."

</div></div>

Actually Mac, I think they're trying to create slaves. Obviously, their policies are all about taking from the poor and the Middle Class, and giving more of the country's wealth, to the wealthy, and removing opportunities for the Middle Class to move up on the economic ladder. Jobs are a problem because corporations have no patriotism. They're pigs, wh only care abut their bottom line, regardles of how many of our jobs they outsource, and REpiglican Policies, protect them from paying their share of taxes, and allow them to hide their money offshore, AND be subsidized while they're destroying us!!!!

Repigloicans blame the president for what has been spent during his tenure, but they refuse to be honest about it, because if one looks at what has been spent, most of it was the on-going payments on the leftover debts from the Bush Administration. Ed is among the worst to do this. So now, Repiglicans are saying, we won't pay the monthly cost of the debts that we and Bush ran up together! That's what raising the debt ceiling is all about. It has nothing to do with current spending policies. Repigloicans are just using that to bring the country further into crisis, because they know their voters are so stupid, and so racist, that they'll be more than willing to buy the lie.

Bush's debts didn't Vanish when Obama came in, we were still spending money, making the payments, on Bush's debts, plus the interest, every month.

Bush didn't pay for anything, not his wars, not his big giveaway to Big Pharma, and not his tax cuts. he put all of that on America's credit card, while the Spendohoic Congress was simultaneously breaking the EARMARK RECORD! Talk about spending every penny that comes in, and borrowing even more! PLUS&lt; our loss of revenue from his idiotic tax cuts, which by far, most advantages the wealthies, and we end up in the deepest ditch ever.

What repiglicans are dong now, is pretending that all of our debts over these last severeal years since we got rid of Bush, are from Obama. That's how ridiculously dishonest they are, and their Repiglicans supporters are either just as corrupt, and just as dishonest, or in the case of the average folks who vote for Repiglicans, possibly so brain washed, or ignorant, that they believe the fantasy.

Under Bush, it was NOT entitlements, as they like to call them, which brought the country down, it was REPIGLICANS failing completely to oversee the ocrruption on Wall St., along with their SPENDING, BORROWING AND WASTING MONEY!

When we look at what Obama's has spent, included in those numbers, are the leftover Bills from Bush, and his blank check Congress.

By Repiglicans blocking the public option, the unsustainable costs of Health Care, continue to be unsustainable.

Those costs have had, and continue to have, a huge negative impact on all of our lives, and Medicare and Medicaid costs, are a problem because Repigloliocans have allowed their guging to go unchecked! Just as they have allowed our energy crisis to go unchecked. Crooks protecting crooks for cash.

If we take raising taxes off the table as a tool to create more revenue, AND take investing in the recovery, off the tabloe as well, we are only crippling our recovery, particularly when we have a group who is ONLY representing the wealthy, and throwing everyone else under the bus, because those under the bus, truly are the CONSUMERS! Those under the bus, ARE the job creators, NOT THE WEALTHIEST AT THE TOP! AND...IT IS A PROVEN FACT, the top one percent of wealthiest in this country, do NOT create jobs....

Check out charts at this link, which prove who is and was the most responsible for our horrific debts...the bottom chart is the best....IMO...


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/...MR_AP_LO_MST_FB (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/28/us/charting-the-american-debt-crisis.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB)

Gayle in MD
07-29-2011, 07:41 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How crazy is that? He cant even pass a bill that every Dem has said they will oppose?

Q </div></div>

How crazy? Everyday brings more obvious proof that they're only goal is to make everything worse, because they THINK that will bring them more power in the long run.

They already know they have sufficiently brain washed their minions, with the grand success of radical media, Fox, Beck, Coulter, Hannity annd O'Reilly, who are constantly ginning up violence, and opportunist exploiters like Paln, and Bachmann, who gin up radicalism for their own gain, so their naive' minions continue voting for them, out of their hatred for certain other groups in our society, whom they mistakenly blame for everything.

The right continues giving the real thieves and crooks, a bye, so I guess the Repigicans think they are going along swimmingly!

Their ridiculous behavior over these last months, has very negatively impacted the markets, the recovery, and hur the country, all of us.

but since their only goal, is more power and more money from the crooks....no end in sight.

PIGS!

Read this, some factual, sensible thinking.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Op-Ed Columnist
Republicans, Zealots and Our Security
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: July 23, 2011


IF China or Iran threatened our national credit rating and tried to drive up our interest rates, or if they sought to damage our education system, we would erupt in outrage.



Well, wake up to the national security threat. Only it’s not coming from abroad, but from our own domestic extremists.



We tend to think of national security narrowly as the risk of a military or terrorist attack. But national security is about protecting our people and our national strength — and the blunt truth is that the biggest threat to America’s national security this summer doesn’t come from China, Iran or any other foreign power. It comes from budget machinations, and budget maniacs, at home.

House Republicans start from a legitimate concern about rising long-term debt. Politicians are usually focused only on short-term issues, so it would be commendable to see the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party seriously focused on containing long-term debt. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>But on this issue, many House Republicans aren’t serious, they’re just obsessive in a destructive way. The upshot is that in their effort to protect the American economy from debt, some of them are willing to drag it over the cliff of default. </span>

It is not exactly true that this would be our first default. We defaulted in 1790. By some definitions, we defaulted on certain gold obligations in 1933. And in 1979, the United States had trouble managing payouts to some individual investors on time (partly because of a failure of word processing equipment) and thus was in technical default.

Yet even that brief lapse in 1979 raised interest payments in the United States. Terry L. Zivney, a finance professor at Ball State University and co-author of a scholarly paper about the episode, says the 1979 default increased American government borrowing costs by 0.6 of a percentage point indefinitely.



<span style='font-size: 20pt'>Any deliberate and sustained interruption this year could have a greater impact. We would see higher interest rates on mortgages, car loans, business loans and credit cards.

American government borrowing would also become more expensive. In February, the Congressional Budget Office noted that a 1 percentage point rise in interest rates could add more than $1 trillion to borrowing costs over a decade. </span>

<span style='font-size: 20pt'>In other words, Republican zeal to lower debts could result in increased interest expenses and higher debts. Their mania to save taxpayers could cost taxpayers. That suggests not governance so much as <span style='font-size: 26pt'>fanaticism.</span> </span>

More broadly, a default would leave America a global laughingstock. Our “soft power,” our promotion of democracy around the world, and our influence would all take a hit. The spectacle of paralysis in the world’s largest economy is already bewildering to many countries. If there is awe for our military prowess and delight in our movies and music, there is scorn for our political/economic management.

While one danger to national security comes from the risk of default, another comes from overzealous budget cuts — especially in education, at the local, state and national levels. When we cut to the education bone, we’re not preserving our future but undermining it.

It should be a national disgrace that the United States government has eliminated spending for major literacy programs in the last few months, with scarcely a murmur of dissent.

Consider Reading Is Fundamental, a 45-year-old nonprofit program that has cost the federal government only $25 million annually. It’s a public-private partnership with 400,000 volunteers, and it puts books in the hands of low-income children. The program helped four million American children improve their reading skills last year. Now it has lost all federal support.

“They have made a real difference for millions of kids,” Kyle Zimmer, founder of First Book, another literacy program that I’ve admired, said of Reading Is Fundamental. “It is a tremendous loss that their federal support has been cut. We are going to pay for these cuts in education for generations.”



Education programs like these aren’t quick fixes, and the relation between spending and outcomes is uncertain and complex. Nurturing reading skills is a slog rather than a sprint — but without universal literacy we have no hope of spreading opportunity, fighting crime or chipping away at poverty.

“The attack on literacy programs reflects a broader assault on education programs,” said Rosa DeLauro, a Democratic member of Congress from Connecticut. She notes that Republicans want to cut everything from early childhood programs to Pell grants for college students. Republican proposals have singled out some 43 education programs for elimination, but it’s not seen as equally essential to end tax loopholes on hedge fund managers.

So let’s remember not only the national security risks posed by Iran and Al Qaeda. <span style='font-size: 20pt'>Let’s also focus on the risks, however unintentional, from domestic zealots. </span>





</div></div>

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24kristof.html?_r=1&hpw

LWW
07-29-2011, 09:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about raising revenue?

Q </div></div>

Why do you oppose raising revenue?

Revenue peaked at an inflation adjusted $2,568B in the last R congressional budget.

Under democrook leadership it has dropped to $2,173.7B.

Obama wanted an extra $400B. Had the democrook policies caused revenue to just tread water they would have $394.3B of it.

The failure of your beloved party is the cause of the problem ... now bleat <span style='font-size: 14pt'>B-B-B-BUT B-B-B-BOOOOSH!!!!</span> for us.

eg8r
07-29-2011, 10:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about raising revenue? Govt revenue is at its lowest point since the war. The stupid Reps have signed this stupid ´no tax hike ´pledge. Is that not partisan?
</div></div>You are refusing to look at the other side. The lefties saying they will not agree to anything that does not hike up taxes. Why are you so blindly partisan?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
07-29-2011, 10:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about raising revenue? Govt revenue is at its lowest point since the war. The stupid Reps have signed this stupid ´no tax hike ´pledge. Is that not partisan?
</div></div>You are refusing to look at the other side. The lefties saying they will not agree to anything that does not hike up taxes. Why are you so blindly partisan?

eg8r </div></div>

That's a ie, Ed. Letting the Bush Tax cuts expire, is not a tax hike.

Getting rid dof expensive, costly subsidies and loopholes, is not a tax hike.

Repiglicans want to continue to spend our taxes on OIL hand outs, when they are making unprecedented profits, and Farm Subsidies, for the wealthy land owners, a long known scam, and spend our tax money on sontractors, who are building obsolete equipment, and obsolete programs, that do nothing for our safety at all, according to former secretary defense, gates, and take money from hungry kids, the old, the ill annd the homeless.

They want to cut the agencies, that protect us from bad Food, Air, Water, drugs, that make us all ill, and cause birth defects.

Do you want FEMA to show up if your area gets hit by a hurricane?

Well, Repiglicans want to cut funding for that, too.

Do you care at all about how healthy the air your kids breath, or how safe the food they eat, is going to be for them???

Or are you actually going to tell me that you don't think these pollution impacts, will have any affect on their futures?

WAKE UP!


Those are THE FACTS!

That's WHY I call them Repiglicans.

LWW
07-29-2011, 11:22 AM
What would you call someone with your attitude yet it turned out they had been delinquent on taxes as trivial as their water bill?

Gayle in MD
07-29-2011, 11:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How crazy is that? He cant even pass a bill that every Dem has said they will oppose?

Q </div></div>

Update:

Now, The Boehner, is demanding an amendment to balance the budget, in another bill!

OR, they won't pass a bill to raise the debt limit!

Boehner is giving in to the idiots!

They've already hurt the recovery with this political gamesmanship.

Every respected Conservative journalist of note, was outraged that Repiglicans didn't go for all of the compromises by the President's offer, that Boehner turned down, the president, bending overr backwards, to get this handled, so much so that his own base was angry with him...

But NOOOOOOOOOOO! the Party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, said NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

So now, with the economy having already suffered from all of the radical RW BS, they're blame Obama, for the losses which have already been suffered from the Repiglican dictators, in their ONLY TRUE GOAL, POWER!

Unbelievable!

G.

LWW
07-29-2011, 11:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now, The Boehner, is demanding an amendment to balance the budget, in another bill!

OR, they won't pass a bill to raise the debt limit!

G. </div></div>

<span style='font-size: 26pt'>BRAVO!</span>

eg8r
07-29-2011, 01:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a ie, Ed. Letting the Bush Tax cuts expire, is not a tax hike.
</div></div>LOL, yeah right. You are so out of touch.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
07-29-2011, 01:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a ie, Ed. Letting the Bush Tax cuts expire, is not a tax hike.
</div></div>LOL, yeah right. You are so out of touch.

eg8r </div></div>

Then so is Grover Norquist, who stated, letting them expire was not the same thing as raising taxes.

eg8r
07-29-2011, 01:36 PM
I guess so. There are some people who don't think Obama is raising their taxes with the new HC bill but they sure as heck are going to see more money going out of their pockets shortly.

You are caught up in semantics and maybe that is why you appear to be so out of touch day in and day out. If the Obama tax cuts expire will you be paying more or less taxes? You act like you fight for the little people yet you don't really know anything about them.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
07-29-2011, 02:01 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess so. There are some people who don't think Obama is raising their taxes with the new HC bill but they sure as heck are going to see more money going out of their pockets shortly.

You are caught up in semantics and maybe that is why you appear to be so out of touch day in and day out. If the Obama tax cuts expire will you be paying more or less taxes? You act like you fight for the little people yet you don't really know anything about them.

eg8r </div></div>

LOL, you just get funnier and funnier, Ed.

And just whom is it that you consider to be "The Little People"?????????????

Soflasnapper
07-29-2011, 04:25 PM
They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo.

ugotda7
07-29-2011, 04:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo. </div></div>

Wow, just how full of shit are you?

ugotda7
07-29-2011, 04:31 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How crazy is that? He cant even pass a bill that every Dem has said they will oppose?

Q </div></div>

Update:

Now, The Boehner, is demanding an amendment to balance the budget, in another bill!

OR, they won't pass a bill to raise the debt limit!

Boehner is giving in to the idiots!

They've already hurt the recovery with this political gamesmanship.

Every respected Conservative journalist of note, was outraged that Repiglicans didn't go for all of the compromises by the President's offer, that Boehner turned down, the president, bending overr backwards, to get this handled, so much so that his own base was angry with him...

But NOOOOOOOOOOO! the Party of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, said NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

So now, with the economy having already suffered from all of the radical RW BS, they're blame Obama, for the losses which have already been suffered from the Repiglican dictators, in their ONLY TRUE GOAL, POWER!

Unbelievable!

G. </div></div>

Oh no...actually expect to balance the budget - THE HORROR!!!!!

What a joke you are.

Soflasnapper
07-29-2011, 06:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo. </div></div>

Wow, just how full of shit are you? </div></div>

Hyperbolic, yes. FOS, no.

I don't support that, of course, but not that it isn't a good point. They've got a gun to the head of the nation's economy, and are threatening to pull the trigger unless they get their own way. I call it terrorism, and anti-American bully boy threats of domestic violence. They should be disarmed.

ugotda7
07-29-2011, 06:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo. </div></div>

Wow, just how full of shit are you? </div></div>

Hyperbolic, yes. FOS, no.

I don't support that, of course, but not that it isn't a good point. They've got a gun to the head of the nation's economy, and are threatening to pull the trigger unless they get their own way. I call it terrorism, and anti-American bully boy threats of domestic violence. They should be disarmed. </div></div>

Nope.

That's about as full of shit sentiment as I've seen in a long time.

eg8r
07-29-2011, 07:39 PM
Everyone that isn't rich. The middle and poor classes. The people who understand reality and when they are paying more taxes they consider it a tax increase and don't care to get into a subject of semantics with you as to whether it was a tax increase or a lapse in tax cuts. Either way, the end result is the same which is increased taxes.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
07-29-2011, 08:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo. </div></div>

Wow, just how full of shit are you? </div></div>

Hyperbolic, yes. FOS, no.

I don't support that, of course, but not that it isn't a good point. They've got a gun to the head of the nation's economy, and are threatening to pull the trigger unless they get their own way. I call it terrorism, and anti-American bully boy threats of domestic violence. They should be disarmed. </div></div>

Nope.

That's about as full of shit sentiment as I've seen in a long time. </div></div>

So you skip over LWW's posts?

Stretch
07-30-2011, 12:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo. </div></div>

Wow, just how full of shit are you? </div></div>

Hyperbolic, yes. FOS, no.

I don't support that, of course, but not that it isn't a good point. They've got a gun to the head of the nation's economy, and are threatening to pull the trigger unless they get their own way. I call it terrorism, and anti-American bully boy threats of domestic violence. They should be disarmed. </div></div>

Nope.

That's about as full of shit sentiment as I've seen in a long time. </div></div>

So you skip over LWW's posts? </div></div>

LMAO! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif St.

LWW
07-30-2011, 05:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo. </div></div>

Wow, just how full of shit are you? </div></div>

I'll take "VERY FULL" for a thousand Alex.

LWW
07-30-2011, 05:34 AM
Wasn't she just hating them for not balancing the budget?

LWW
07-30-2011, 05:36 AM
I've seen much fuller.

Ask him about Orville Reddenbacher and the October Surprise pulled off by an Obregon - Human hybrid.

LWW
07-30-2011, 05:37 AM
Don't hate me because I expose your lunatic rants.

Gayle in MD
07-30-2011, 07:57 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are domestic terrorists, threatening a far worse result from their assault than most potential foreign attackers could imagine.

They are getting away with it temporarily because the results of their hostage-taking have not yet transpired, AND those results are being denied, claiming it's all scare tactics.

I opppose torture and enemy combatant treatment, but I'm of a mind to declare them exactly that, strip them of US citizenship, and show them the friendly summer camp confines of Gitmo. </div></div>


Right you are.

moblsv
07-30-2011, 08:31 AM
The teabaggers are doing exactly what they were elected to do. Use every means possible to weaken government, stand strong behind their extreme views, get government and the people out of the way of Corporate profit, and "return" the country to the white, Christian, straight male.

Gayle in MD
07-30-2011, 09:35 AM
Yep, bring the whole country to a screeching halt, and push the Shock Doctrine. Starve the old and the poor, and if they can't starve them, they can kill them off with their pollution.

Number one.... destroy women's rights, disenfranchise ethnic voters and African Americans, jury rig the districts, and get ready to throw the next elections.

They are fascist PIGS!

G.

Stretch
07-30-2011, 09:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: moblsv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The teabaggers are doing exactly what they were elected to do. Use every means possible to weaken government, stand strong behind their extreme views, get government and the people out of the way of Corporate profit, and "return" the country to the white, Christian, straight male.


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You mean the ones that murdered, lied, starved, and cheated it away from the indigenous population? St.

Sev
07-30-2011, 09:59 AM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/Sevelli/Guns/rooftops.jpg

ugotda7
07-30-2011, 11:11 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/Sevelli/Guns/rooftops.jpg </div></div>

He needs a better scope. That looks like a Leupold. He needs a Zeiss.

Sev
07-30-2011, 11:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugotda7</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/Sevelli/Guns/rooftops.jpg </div></div>

He needs a better scope. That looks like a Leupold. He needs a Zeiss. </div></div>

It was the first thing I noticed. Zeiss is def the nuts.