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Sev
08-03-2011, 05:02 PM
<span style='font-size: 20pt'><span style="color: #990000">Its not good in the trenches!!!!</span>
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<span style="color: #000000">WASHINGTON The hard-won, last-minute agreement to raise the debt ceiling and cut the deficit gets low ratings from Americans, who by more than 2-1 predict it will make the nation's fragile economy worse rather than better.

In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken hours after the Senate passed and President Obama signed a debt ceiling bill, 41% of people polled said the deal will make the economy worse.

By Carolyn Kaster, AP

In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken hours after the Senate passed and President Obama signed a debt ceiling bill, 41% of people polled said the deal will make the economy worse.

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By Carolyn Kaster, AP

In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken hours after the Senate passed and President Obama signed a debt ceiling bill, 41% of people polled said the deal will make the economy worse.

In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken hours after the Senate passed and President Obama signed the deal, a 46% plurality disapprove of the agreement; 39% approve. Only one in five see it as a "step forward" in addressing the federal debt.

"People don't know jack" about the particulars of the agreement, "but what you heard about the process throughout was that it was horrible," says Joseph White, a political scientist at Case Western Reserve University who studies budget policy. "Most people assume that whatever came out of this horrible process was pretty crappy."

The sour reaction even after a compromise was struck underscores why the negotiations were so difficult, says Stan Collender, a former staffer on the House and Senate budget committees who is a partner at Qorvis Communications. "There was almost no way at all that elected officials were going to win on this one. No matter what they did, a lot of people were going to dislike it."

The poll finds some paradoxes.

Though Tea Party conservatives succeeded in setting the parameters of the debate, supporters of the Tea Party are among those most unhappy with the outcome. Only 22% of Tea Party supporters approve of the deal, compared with 26% of Republicans generally and 58% of Democrats.

And although Obama and congressional Democrats failed to make higher taxes on the wealthy part of the agreement, moderate and liberal Democrats were among those who rate it most highly. Two-thirds of moderate Democrats approve of the agreement.

None of the policymakers involved gets high ratings for handling the negotiations, although Obama's standing is the least bad: 41% approve, 49% disapprove.

The congressional leaders House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. fare worse, with approval ratings that trail their disapproval ratings by about 20 percentage points. Even the Tea Party members of Congress score a bit better than that: 33% approve, 49% disapprove.

The poll of 1,012 adults, taken Tuesday, has a margin of error of +/-4 points.

In the survey, 41% say the deal will make the economy worse; 17% say it will make it better. A third predict it won't have much effect.

The agreement raised the debt ceiling by $2.4 trillion hours before the Treasury Department said the nation would head into default. It cuts spending by more than $900 billion and establishes a joint congressional committee to come up with an additional $1.5 trillion in deficit savings by Thanksgiving. If the committee can't reach an agreement or Congress blocks it, $1.2 trillion in cuts in domestic and defense spending will go into effect automatically.

The poll "explains why a lot of the procedures put in place for the next 18 months are a 'Look, Mom, no hands!' process," Collender says. "They don't require votes and people will be able to say, 'It's not my fault.'"</span>

cushioncrawler
08-03-2011, 06:06 PM
".....In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken hours after the Senate passed and President Obama signed a debt ceiling bill, 41% of people polled said the deal will make the economy worse....."

What would the 41% hav been for some other deal.
What would it hav been if the Tparty got its way.
What if the non-Tparty GOP got its way.
What if the mainline dems got their way.
What if the leftys got their way.

Would any of theze hav yielded more than 41%.
Hey, wait a mo, duzzen this mean that in effekt 59% ticked the box that sayd that they beleeved that the deal wouldnt make the ekonomy worse.
Iz 59% good??????? 59% sounds good to me!!!!!!
mac.

Not that any of this matters, the usofa woz going down anyhows.

eg8r
08-03-2011, 07:25 PM
Generally these questions have 3 options, Good, bad, indifferent.

eg8r

Sev
08-04-2011, 06:30 AM
I suspect 9.3 unemployment coming up with Obama falling below 40% approval.