PDA

View Full Version : NAILS IT!



LWW
08-08-2011, 03:54 AM
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/payn110806_cmyk20110805020949.jpg

Soflasnapper
08-08-2011, 11:33 AM
Nails what? Public opinion?

No, public opinion reverses this scenario, to place the TP in that cell. What is the number again? 72% or something of the public disapproves of the GOP tactics (which were the TP demanded tactics)?

Boehner, not exactly a TP type, saw his negatives jump some 20 percentage points, because of his now being associated with their actions in Congress.

LWW
08-08-2011, 01:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">72% or something of the public disapproves of the GOP tactics (which were the TP demanded tactics)?</div></div>

Documented by ... what's that ... oh, never mind, I already know the answer.

eg8r
08-08-2011, 06:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, public opinion reverses this scenario,</div></div>Public opinion is the exact reason why this country was never a democracy. You cannot rely on the public as a whole to make the right decisions or they will just vote in the one that promises the most handouts.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
08-09-2011, 03:02 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">72% or something of the public disapproves of the GOP tactics (which were the TP demanded tactics)?</div></div>

Documented by ... what's that ... oh, never mind, I already know the answer. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Looking forward, Americans have clear views about what they want in new rounds of deficits cuts, as they have since the debate started:

By 69-28, voters support raising taxes on people with annual incomes of more than $250,000.

By 62-32 they support eliminating subsidies to oil and gas companies.

By 84-14 they oppose cuts in Medicare or Social Security.

By 50-46, they support cutting defense spending.

By 73-23 they oppose cutting Medicaid and entitlements.


Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/08/119959/poll-americans-see-debt-deal-as.html#ixzz1UZGT3Tqp
</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Tea Party Losing Traction After Debt Ceiling Standoff, Poll Shows
Yahoo! Contributor Network
By Saul Relative | Yahoo! Contributor Network Mon, Aug 8, 2011

tweet5
Share1
Email
Print

COMMENTARY | The tea party faction of the Republican Party has lost ground in the court of public opinion, according to a recent CBS News/New York Times poll. In fact, it appears it was the tea party's perceived role in the debt ceiling debate, where many believe its intransigence led to unnecessary stalemate, brinksmanship maneuvering, fears of government shutdown and debt default, and economic instability in the world's markets, that precipitated the fall in poll numbers.

According to the poll, 40 percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of anti-tax, less government movement, down 15 percent from a poll taken in February and 11 percent since April. It is also the worst numbers compiled by the tea party since the question was first raised by The Times in April 2010. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The poll indicated Americans were far more likely to blame Republicans for the "difficulties in reaching agreement" during the debt ceiling debate (47 percent to 29 percent over Democrats, with 20 percent blaming both parties equally). <span style='font-size: 20pt'>An overwhelming majority (82 percent) felt that the debt ceiling debate was used more to gain political advantage than to do what was right for the country (14 percent). </span> </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

Updated 9 a.m. ET

CBS News Poll analysis by the CBS News Polling Unit: Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Fred Backus and Anthony Salvanto.

Americans are unimpressed with their political leaders' handling of the debt ceiling crisis, with a new CBS News poll showing a majority disapprove of all the involved parties' conduct, but Republicans in Congress fare the worst, with just 21 percent backing their resistance to raising taxes.

Even half of the Republican respondents (51 percent) voiced disapproval of how members of their own party in Congress are handling the talks. Far fewer Democrats expressed disapproval of their own party's handling (32 percent) or President Obama's (22 percent) of the urgent quest to raise the nation's debt limit ahead of a looming default on Aug. 2 if action isn't taken.</div></div>

LWW
08-09-2011, 04:40 PM
Did you read their methodology?

Of course you didn't.

Soflasnapper
08-11-2011, 01:47 PM
So, first, I had no sources. Then when I showed multiple sources, so evidently I did have sources, now you switch your argument?

Sure, because that's how you roll, as we see every day.

How about this, then?

Find me a poll whose methodology meets your oh-so-strict standards, that shows anything close to disproving these results with other results you consider more sound.

C'mon, Scotty Rasmussen must have provided his conservative owners SOME bit of skewed polling to support them.

Or, if he didn't, it would only be because he could not find such a result.

LWW
08-11-2011, 03:29 PM
Would the reich wing CNN (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/07/21/rel11b.pdf) work for you?

It's been posted at least twice before ... you may now ignore it for a third time since it doesn't advance your agenda.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Question 23
In another proposal, Congress would raise the debt ceiling only if a balanced budget amendment were
passed by both houses of Congress and substantial spending cuts and caps on future spending were
approved. Would you favor or oppose this proposal?
Base = Total Sample
Total Men Women White Non-White
----- ----- ----- ----- ---------
Favor 66% 67% 66% 69% 63%
Oppose 33% 33% 32% 31% 35%
No opinion 1% * 1% 1% 2%
Sampling Error +/-3.0 +/-4.5 +/-4.5 +/-3.5 +/-7.5 </div></div>