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Qtec
09-04-2011, 02:09 AM
..and the source is impeccably reliable.

link (http://mediamatters.org/embed/clips/2011/08/02/18929/fbn-ldt-20110728-climate2)

Surely not.

link (http://mediamatters.org/embed/clips/2011/08/04/19036/fbn-ld-20110803-royspencerinterview)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">UPDATE:

Conservative media continue to distort the study:

After claiming that Spencer's research was "debunking climate change," Lou Dobbs hosted Spencer on the August 3 edition of his Fox Business show. During the interview, both Dobbs and Spencer overstated the findings of the study.
On the August 4 edition of his radio show, Rush Limbaugh aired audio clips of Spencer's appearance on Dobbs' show and claimed that the study showed that "the whole thing has been" a "hoax."
On the August 6 edition of Fox & Friends Saturday, guest host Juliet Huddy claimed that "a new NASA study seems to debunk whether [global warming] is actually manmade."
On the August 6 edition of Fox Business Tom Sullivan Show, Marc Morano claimed Spencer's study shows "that the global warming alarm spread by Al Gore and the United Nations is in utter scientific collapse."

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>UPDATE (9/2): The editor of the journal that published Spencer's paper has resigned after concluding that it should "not have been published."</span> </div></div>

Oh my! LMAO

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Journal Editor Resigns After Publishing Flawed Climate Study Touted By Forbes, Fox

September 02, 2011 12:00 pm ET by Jocelyn Fong </div></div>

link (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109020008)

Its no wonder the RW hates MediaMatters, they tell the truth.

Q

Gayle in MD
09-04-2011, 07:58 AM
I love the part where he says that in another fifty or a hundred years, we won't be burning fosile fuels, anyway.

Ha ha ha...Not if The Grand Oil Party has anything to do with it!

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Soflasnapper
09-04-2011, 11:52 AM
It would be hilarious if it weren't so important.

How many times do we hear this or that new finding blows GW out of the water, only to find the authors of the findings themselves admitting it does nothing of the sort?

That was the case in the instance just after this one came out a few months back.

The cosmic ray theory of cloud formation out of the CERN lab. The lead author said directly that this says nothing one way or another about GW theories.

Why do those who oppose GW theories have so little regard for science and truth, appearing only to want to attack Al Gore over and over again with whatever appears to be a weapon against his theories, only to find it's another wet noodle attack?

I think it's cultural, and guilt- and/or shame-based.

It wasn't enough for them that W got the SCOTUS nod to be president. Because Gore easily won the popular vote, they've tried to destroy him as a legitimate person in any respect in the aftermath, subjecting him to a withering Alyinsky-style attack of abuse and ridicule, in a rear-guard action attempt to divert attention away from the horrible stain on our country's honor that the W administration was, after they got appointed to the job instead of the rightful winner.

Their theory seemed to be, ok, W was no great president, and ok, maybe he was a disgrace, but that Gore guy??? He was a joke. He's fat, btw. Some kind of hippy beard on the guy. His house is too big, and he flies in jet airplanes!!! He's a serial rapist/sexual assaulter. Man, what a hypocrite!

Whatever. They can't stop the smears. And they cannot admit he was right about anything. And of course, this method dovetails nicely with the agenda of their corporate masters in the energy business. It's almost as if they think GW itself can be disproven by linking it with the hated Gore.

Sad and sick.

Gayle in MD
09-05-2011, 07:59 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why do those who oppose GW theories have so little regard for science and truth, appearing only to want to attack Al Gore over and over again with whatever appears to be a weapon against his theories, only to find it's another wet noodle attack?

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Knuckle Dragging Neanderthals, best description for Repiglican's, and so called, "Conservatives" I've ever heard. Fits their policies, perfectly.

The best thing they have going for them is that they have captured and exploited the "Ignorant Vote" and the corporate energy PIGS are their pets.

Truly depressing watching them brain wash their ignorant constituents so easly.

"When Fascism Come to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying the cross."

G.

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Fascism is eating America alive!
Rise up, America, before corporatist billionaires and their confederates in Congress and on the Supreme Court, their media moguls, their tea party fanatics, their black-shirted mercenaries, lock democracy in a room with a bare light bulb and throw away the key!

“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

Attributed to Sinclair Lewis, whose 1935 novel, It Can't Happen Here, dealt with the rise of a right-wing dictatorship in America — a paraphrase of "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the American flag," attributed to Huey Long, radical populist governor of Louisiana (1928-30) and bombastic U.S. Senator (1930-33), assassinated in office.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

Thomas Jefferson</span>

"The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism, because it is the merger of State and corporate power."

Claimed by Benito Mussolini, but authored by Giovanni Gentile—the “philosopher of Fascism” and ghostwriter of Mussolini’s The Doctrine of Fascism—for an entry in the Enciclopedia Italiana (1936), which Gentile edited.

Fascism: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

American Heritage Dictionary.

“When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled ‘made in Germany;’ it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, ‘Americanism.’ ... The high-sounding phrase ‘the American way’ will be used by interested groups, intent on profit, to cover a multitude of sins against the American and Christian traditions, (including) <span style='font-size: 14pt'>denial of civil liberties.” </span>

Professor Halford E. Luccock, Divinity School of Yale University, in a sermon at New York City’s Riverside Church, September 11, 1938, as reported in The New York Times. Luccock went on to say, “For never, probably, has there been a time when there was a more vigorous effort to surround social and international questions with such a fog of distortion and prejudice and hysterical appeal to fear.”

"The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power." </span>

Vice President Henry Wallace, in The New York Times, April 9, 1944.

“[T]he great privilege of habeas corpus, and of trial by jury . . . are the supreme protection invented by the English people for ordinary individuals against the State. . . . The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers is, in the highest degree, odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian governments.”

Prime Minister Winston S. Churchill, in a cable to Home Secretary Herbert Morrison from Cairo, November 21, 1943, responding to criticism over the decision to release accused Nazi collaborator Oswald Moseley.

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.”

President Dwight D. Eisenhower, in his farewell address to the American people, January 17, 1961.

"(T)he first step to fighting an evil is to name it. We are fighting Corporatism. There is no turning back."

Jonathan Taplin, "Corporatism", Dissident Voice, June 3, 2003.

“We have seen the next Mussolini and she's wearing a skirt. Don't let Palin's 'hockey mom' image fool you. Sarah Palin is the face of a post-democracy America, post-constitutional and post-freedom America.”

Frank Schaeffer, best-selling author, “Sarah Palin: America’s Lipstick Fascist”, Huffington Post, September 5, 2008

“(A)s I was told by Fritz Stern, a scholar of fascism who has written about the origins of Nazism, ‘In Germany there was a yearning for fascism before fascism was invented.’ It is the yearning that we now see (in America), and it is dangerous.”

Chris Hedges, "Is America Yearning for Fascism?", March 29, 2010

“The fear, rage and hatred of our dispossessed and confused working class are being channeled into currents that are undermining the last vestiges of the democratic state.”

Chris Hedges,"How Democracy Dies", October 11, 2010

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>“American politics, as the midterm elections demonstrated, have descended into the irrational. ... All social and cultural values are now sacrificed before the altar of the marketplace.”</span>Chris Hedges, "A Recipe for Fascism", November 8, 2010

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."

Thomas Jefferson

“As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as they please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.”


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Gayle in MD
09-14-2011, 09:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It would be hilarious if it weren't so important.

How many times do we hear this or that new finding blows GW out of the water, only to find the authors of the findings themselves admitting it does nothing of the sort?

That was the case in the instance just after this one came out a few months back.

The cosmic ray theory of cloud formation out of the CERN lab. The lead author said directly that this says nothing one way or another about GW theories.

Why do those who oppose GW theories have so little regard for science and truth, appearing only to want to attack Al Gore over and over again with whatever appears to be a weapon against his theories, only to find it's another wet noodle attack?

I think it's cultural, and guilt- and/or shame-based.

It wasn't enough for them that W got the SCOTUS nod to be president. Because Gore easily won the popular vote, they've tried to destroy him as a legitimate person in any respect in the aftermath, subjecting him to a withering Alyinsky-style attack of abuse and ridicule, in a rear-guard action attempt to divert attention away from the horrible stain on our country's honor that the W administration was, after they got appointed to the job instead of the rightful winner.

Their theory seemed to be, ok, W was no great president, and ok, maybe he was a disgrace, but that Gore guy??? He was a joke. He's fat, btw. Some kind of hippy beard on the guy. His house is too big, and he flies in jet airplanes!!! He's a serial rapist/sexual assaulter. Man, what a hypocrite!

Whatever. They can't stop the smears. And they cannot admit he was right about anything. And of course, this method dovetails nicely with the agenda of their corporate masters in the energy business. It's almost as if they think GW itself can be disproven by linking it with the hated Gore.

Sad and sick. </div></div>

We must destroy Repiglican Fascism before it's too late!