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DickLeonard
09-05-2011, 12:02 PM
Just Google the Bush Crime Family and then talk about it. ####

LWW
09-05-2011, 12:47 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>NOW you should provide a link moron</span>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q </div></div>

Soflasnapper
09-05-2011, 03:58 PM
Bush crime family Google search link, here. (http://www.google.com/search?q=Bush+crime+family&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

How does this differ from the Bush Family Evil Empire?

Totally different google search, that's how! (http://www.google.com/search?q=bush+family+evil+empire&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

Some overlapping, of course.

I especially like the history of the 'lesser' brothers, the ones who aren't so much in the headlines, plus don't forget their 'Walker' cousins!

And why DID George W. commute Henry Lee Lucas' death penalty to life in prison? Was it really because he'd only probably killed 17 people, and not the 350 or 650 he at one time confessed to?

LWW
09-05-2011, 04:05 PM
How does the Bush scandal compare to THIS (http://billiardsdigest.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=364524#Post364524)?

Let me guess, your nonsense is believable because it's anti Bush and has no real evidence, the best case ever for a good conspiracy theory ... OTOH mine is unacceptable to you even though I have audio, video and transcripts, because of course it is anti dear leader.

Soflasnapper
09-05-2011, 05:10 PM
How does the Bush scandal compare to THIS?

The Teamsters frighten you?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Teamsters Endorse [GHW] Bush; Only Major Union to Do So</div></div>

BTW, which Bush scandal do you refer to? There are very many, considering we're talking about 3-4 generations of these criminals.

I'd say trading with the enemy, in so provable a way that your company gets seized from you by the federal government, is somewhat worse. (That would be Prescott Bush.) What do you think?

Qtec
09-06-2011, 01:28 AM
I like this one.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The basic actions of Neil Bush in the S&L scandal are as follows:

Neil received a $100,000 "loan" from Ken Good, of Good International, with no obligation to pay any of the money back.

Good was a large shareholder in JNB Explorations, Neil Bush's oil-exploration company.

Neil failed to disclose this conflict-of-interest when loans were given to Good from Silverado, because the money was to be used in joint venture with his own JNB. This was in essence giving himself a loan from Silverado through a third party.

Neil then helped Silverado S&L approve Good International for a $900,000 line of credit.

Good defaulted on a total $32 million in loans from Silverado.

During this time Neil Bush did not disclose that $3 million of the $32 million that Good was defaulting on was actually for investment in JNB, his own company.

Good subsequently raised Bush's JNB salary from $75,000 to $125,000 and granted him a $22,500 bonus.

Neil Bush maintained that he did not see how this constituted a conflict of interest.

Neil approved $106 million in Silverado loans to another JNB investor, Bill Walters.

Neil also never formally disclosed his relationship with Walters and Walters also defaulted on his loans, all $106 million of them.

Neil Bush was charged with criminal wrongdoing in the case and ended up paying $50,000 to settle out of court. The chief of Silverado S&L was sentenced to 3.5 years in jail for pleading guilty to $8.7 million in theft. (Keep in mind that you can get more jail time for holding up a gas station for $50.)

Today Neil Bush is working on closing a deal in Florida, where his brother Jeb is governor, to sell a software package to schools with his startup company Ignite </div></div>


...and it all ended happily ever after.

Q

Qtec
09-06-2011, 03:41 AM
Eh...........what?

Q...........I'm not going to click on your link.

LWW
09-06-2011, 05:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How does the Bush scandal compare to THIS?

The Teamsters frighten you?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Teamsters Endorse [GHW] Bush; Only Major Union to Do So</div></div> </div></div>

That was after Hoffa the Elder's reign of terror and before Hoffa the Younger's scandal ridden regime took power.

And your point was what, other than to lamely attempt to deflect criticism away from supporters of the current thugocracy?

LWW
09-06-2011, 05:16 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like this one.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The basic actions of Neil Bush in the S&L scandal are as follows:

Neil received a $100,000 "loan" from Ken Good, of Good International, with no obligation to pay any of the money back.

Good was a large shareholder in JNB Explorations, Neil Bush's oil-exploration company.

Neil failed to disclose this conflict-of-interest when loans were given to Good from Silverado, because the money was to be used in joint venture with his own JNB. This was in essence giving himself a loan from Silverado through a third party.

Neil then helped Silverado S&L approve Good International for a $900,000 line of credit.

Good defaulted on a total $32 million in loans from Silverado.

During this time Neil Bush did not disclose that $3 million of the $32 million that Good was defaulting on was actually for investment in JNB, his own company.

Good subsequently raised Bush's JNB salary from $75,000 to $125,000 and granted him a $22,500 bonus.

Neil Bush maintained that he did not see how this constituted a conflict of interest.

Neil approved $106 million in Silverado loans to another JNB investor, Bill Walters.

Neil also never formally disclosed his relationship with Walters and Walters also defaulted on his loans, all $106 million of them.

Neil Bush was charged with criminal wrongdoing in the case and ended up paying $50,000 to settle out of court. The chief of Silverado S&L was sentenced to 3.5 years in jail for pleading guilty to $8.7 million in theft. (Keep in mind that you can get more jail time for holding up a gas station for $50.)

Today Neil Bush is working on closing a deal in Florida, where his brother Jeb is governor, to sell a software package to schools with his startup company Ignite </div></div>


...and it all ended happily ever after.

Q </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>NOW you should provide a link moron</span>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q </div></div>

Gayle in MD
09-06-2011, 07:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DickLeonard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just Google the Bush Crime Family and then talk about it. ####
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Dick,

It has all been well documented. Makes you wonder, doesn't it, since it was common knowledge what a crooked family they have always been, why did Reagan choose a crook for his VP.

In fact, all of the upper level operatives of the Reagan, Bush one and and Bush two administrations, were crooks as well.

You can't get more crooked than BAKER! W. could never have succeeded in throwing the Florida election, without his help.

Remember when Barbara sent money to the schools after Katrnia, with the stipulation that Neil would make money off her contribution!

Remember how, "scary" she said it was to see all of those (African American) victims of Katrina, sent to Texas.

She called it an improvement, (a step up?) for them to be living in those shelters when they got there.

The Bush Family Dynasty, belongs in a third world country that is under dictatorship,.... oh wait, we were under a Bush/Cheney dictatorship! And when we finally got rid of the last Bush Family CROOK, we were nearly a third world country, as well.

I'd love to know the total amount of money that our government has spent so far, to house and protect that bunch of crooks!

Wonder how we could find that out~!

G.

LWW
09-06-2011, 08:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remember when Barbara sent money to the schools after Katrnia, with the stipulation that Neil would make money off her contribution!


G.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you make a claim, you post a link.

Q </div></div>

LWW
09-06-2011, 08:14 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remember how, "scary" she said it was to see all of those (African American) victims of Katrina, to be sent to Texas.

She called it an improvment, (a step up?) for them to be living in those shelters when they got there.
G.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style='font-size: 14pt'>NOW you should provide a link moron</span>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Q </div></div>

Soflasnapper
09-06-2011, 09:59 AM
It has all been well documented. makes you wonder, doesn't it, since it was common knowledge what a crooked family they have always been, why did REagan choose a crokk for his VP.


Reagan did not like George HW Bush, and though him a weak man, going back to the NH debate in Nashua.

He was refusing to consider appointing him his VP, until he was summoned to a meeting with David Rockefeller. That the meeting with David Rockefeller occurred is proven, but what is said to have been the subject of that meeting is not so well supported. Supposedly, Rockefeller told Reagan that if he did not appoint Bush VP, he would not make it to inauguration day, and that he must appoint him.

Of course, within a few months of the inauguration, the official story is that a son of a close family friend to Bush nearly killed Reagan (meaning John Hinckley).

Gayle in MD
09-06-2011, 10:09 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It has all been well documented. Makes you wonder, doesn't it, since it was common knowledge what a crooked family they have always been, why did Reagan choose a crook for his VP.


Reagan did not like George HW Bush, and though him a weak man, going back to the NH debate in Nashua.

He was refusing to consider appointing him his VP, until he was summoned to a meeting with David Rockefeller. That the meeting with David Rockefeller occurred is proven, but what is said to have been the subject of that meeting is not so well supported. Supposedly, Rockefeller told Reagan that if he did not appoint Bush VP, he would not make it to inauguration day, and that he must appoint him.

Of course, within a few months of the inauguration, the official story is that a son of a close family friend to Bush nearly killed Reagan (meaning John Hinckley).

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Hmmm, never heard that one, but it doesn't surprise me. Nothing about that family would surprise me.

G.

LWW
09-06-2011, 10:27 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Of course, within a few months of the inauguration, the official story is that a son of a close family friend to Bush nearly killed Reagan (meaning John Hinckley).

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you make a claim, you post a link.

Q </div></div>

Soflasnapper
09-06-2011, 02:44 PM
You never heard about this???

Wild youth, evidently, and not paying attention?

Soflasnapper
09-06-2011, 03:14 PM
Oddly, in 1981, a son of a close HW Bush friend made HW Bush essentially the acting president of the US, by a horrible act of violence.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curiously, only one time was it announced on the news about the connections between the Bush and Hinckley families: An almost bewildered John Chancellor on NBC Nightly News reported "the bizarre coincidence" that Vice President Bush's son, Neil, and Scott Hinckley had dinner plans for March 31, 1981 -- now cancelled, of course. [But even Chancellor failed to mention the close friendship between the the assassin's father and Vice President Bush--let alone the rest of the corporate media.]
</div></div> link (http://tomflocco.com/fs/HinckleyAndBush.htm)

Oddly, in 2001, another son of another close HW Bush friend made Bush's son, W Bush, essentially the emperor of the US, a president powered by a 95% approval rating, lord of all he surveyed, and again, by a horrible act of violence.

Link (http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html)

eg8r
09-06-2011, 07:36 PM
Seriously, dinner plans makes them close friends? Surely there is stronger evidence to support such an accusation.

eg8r

LWW
09-07-2011, 02:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oddly, in 1981, a son of a close HW Bush friend made HW Bush essentially the acting president of the US, by a horrible act of violence.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curiously, only one time was it announced on the news about the connections between the Bush and Hinckley families: An almost bewildered John Chancellor on NBC Nightly News reported "the bizarre coincidence" that Vice President Bush's son, Neil, and Scott Hinckley had dinner plans for March 31, 1981 -- now cancelled, of course.
</div></div> link (http://tomflocco.com/fs/HinckleyAndBush.htm)

Oddly, in 2001, another son of another close HW Bush friend made Bush's son, W Bush, essentially the emperor of the US, a president powered by a 95% approval rating, lord of all he surveyed, and again, by a horrible act of violence.

Link (http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html)


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Why didn't you post this part about your "SOURCE" ...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> [b]In a fast-paced fictionalized account of a journalist's search for truth, The Afternoon of March 30 reveals a view of American politics that is as illuminating as it is frightening. Focusing on the events surrounding John Hinckley Jr.'s attempt to assassinate President Reagan, this well-researched book describes how government agencies shut off access to any information suggesting a conspiracy at high levels while feeding misinformation to the media. </div></div>

Gayle in MD
09-07-2011, 07:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oddly, in 1981, a son of a close HW Bush friend made HW Bush essentially the acting president of the US, by a horrible act of violence.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curiously, only one time was it announced on the news about the connections between the Bush and Hinckley families: An almost bewildered John Chancellor on NBC Nightly News reported "the bizarre coincidence" that Vice President Bush's son, Neil, and Scott Hinckley had dinner plans for March 31, 1981 -- now cancelled, of course. [But even Chancellor failed to mention the close friendship between the the assassin's father and Vice President Bush--let alone the rest of the corporate media.]
</div></div> link (http://tomflocco.com/fs/HinckleyAndBush.htm)

Oddly, in 2001, another son of another close HW Bush friend made Bush's son, W Bush, essentially the emperor of the US, a president powered by a 95% approval rating, lord of all he surveyed, and again, by a horrible act of violence.

Link (http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html)


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OMG imagine if those things had been true of President Obama!!!!

He'd probably be in leg irons!

The worst Bush crime of all, was when W. sold our country out to a communist nation, China, which has been cheating us ever since, unchecked, and why? Because Bush sold them the U.S. lock, stock and barrel!!! This is the worst barrier to American recovery from the disastrous Bush Administration, that we face. AND, the corporate fascist pigs, have exacerbated it, for their bottom line.

Bush left us in the worst trick bad this nation has ever faced.

I laugh me arse off every time one of those Repiglican Candidates starts yapping about getting tough on China!

BWA HA HA HA, who do they think they're kidding!

That's about as funny as Bachmann's two dollar a gallon gas!

Where do they find these idiots!

G.

Soflasnapper
09-07-2011, 11:30 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seriously, dinner plans makes them close friends? Surely there is stronger evidence to support such an accusation.

eg8r </div></div>

Yes, indeed, there was far stronger evidence.

This is a compilation of AP, Washington Star, and other articles. (http://www.voxfux.com/features/hinckley_bush_connection.html)

Soflasnapper
09-07-2011, 11:32 AM
The worst Bush crime of all, was when W. sold our country out to a communist nation, China, which has been cheating us ever since, unchecked, and why? Because Bush sold them the U.S. lock, stock and barrel!!!

I was a bit surprised to read this claim. Opening up China has been a project over many presidencies. Nixon, most famously, of course, but it was Carter, I think, who normalized diplomatic relations. What did W do along these lines himself?

It was shortly after the 9/11 events, still in the shock and awe stages, that the US granted China Most Favored Nation status.

Soflasnapper
09-07-2011, 11:45 AM
Ok, that wasn't accurate either.

Carter's action put China back into MFN status back in 1980. (It had been suspended from same as of about '51 as a Communist country.)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MFN/NTR status for China, a non-market economy, which had been originally suspended in 1951, was restored in 1980 and was continued in effect through subsequent annual Presidential extensions. Following the brutal massacre of pro-democracy demonstrators in Tiananmen Square in 1989, however, the annual renewal of China’s MFN status became a source of considerable debate in the Congress; and legislation was introduced to terminate China’s MFN/NTR status or to impose additional conditions relating to improvements in China’s actions on various trade and non-trade issues. Agricultural interests generally opposed attempts to block MFN /NTR renewal for China, contending that several billion dollars annually in current and future U.S. agricultural exports could be jeopardized if that country retaliated. In China’s case, Congress agreed to permanent normal trade relations (PNTR) status in P.L. 106-286, President Clinton signed into law on October 10, 2000.[4] PNTR paved the way for China’s accession to the WTO in December 2000; it provides U.S. exporters of agricultural products the opportunity to benefit from China’s WTO agreements to reduce trade barriers and open its agricultural markets. </div></div>

So Carter with a Democratic Congressional majority restored the MFN status, Clinton agreed to the GOP Congress' providing a permanent normal trade relation status to China (one not requiring an annual waiver), and Clinton's term's ending saw the admission of China to the World Trade Organization (WTO) (although I am unsure how much the US could cause and/or block such admission, and how much it would be a presidential decision or the Congress' instead).

Leaving the question still of what W may have done along these same lines. I thought SOMETHING happened late in 2001; still checking.

And now finding this:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> US Grants China Permanent Most Favored Nation Status

On December 27, 2001, US President George W. Bush decided to grant China permanent trade status, formerly called the “most-favored-nation treatment.” Bush’s proclamation ended a long history of an annual review in the US Congress of China’s permanent trade status, removing a major obstacle to the development of bilateral economic relations and trade between the US and China. </div></div>

At the bottom of the page. (http://www.china.org.cn/english/china-us/26890.htm)

It's not clear how this would be required on top of the cited 2000 grant, unless that was an error on Wiki's part. But in any case, it does appear that W as well made this decision himself in late 2001.

Gayle in MD
09-07-2011, 12:00 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, that wasn't accurate either.

Carter's action put China back into MFN status back in 1980. (It had been suspended from same as of about '51 as a Communist country.)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MFN/NTR status for China, a non-market economy, which had been originally suspended in 1951, was restored in 1980 and was continued in effect through subsequent annual Presidential extensions. Following the brutal massacre of pro-democracy demonstrators in Tiananmen Square in 1989, however, the annual renewal of China’s MFN status became a source of considerable debate in the Congress; and legislation was introduced to terminate China’s MFN/NTR status or to impose additional conditions relating to improvements in China’s actions on various trade and non-trade issues. Agricultural interests generally opposed attempts to block MFN /NTR renewal for China, contending that several billion dollars annually in current and future U.S. agricultural exports could be jeopardized if that country retaliated. In China’s case, Congress agreed to permanent normal trade relations (PNTR) status in P.L. 106-286, President Clinton signed into law on October 10, 2000.[4] PNTR paved the way for China’s accession to the WTO in December 2000; it provides U.S. exporters of agricultural products the opportunity to benefit from China’s WTO agreements to reduce trade barriers and open its agricultural markets. </div></div>

So Carter with a Democratic Congressional majority restored the MFN status, Clinton agreed to the GOP Congress' providing a permanent normal trade relation status to China (one not requiring an annual waiver), and Clinton's term's ending saw the admission of China to the World Trade Organization (WTO) (although I am unsure how much the US could cause and/or block such admission, and how much it would be a presidential decision or the Congress' instead).

Leaving the question still of what W may have done along these same lines. I thought SOMETHING happened late in 2001; still checking.

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What Bush did was borrow so much money from China, that we are laughed at, when we try to put a stop to their continued cheating in the trade market, by devalueing the yen, and Bush put us in that trick bag.

Our Trade deficit is greatly due to China, cheating.

Our economy relies on consumer spending. It's bad enough with all of the outsourcing of our jobs, by corporations that we give subsidies to, but when we do see a rise in consumer confidence, and spending, how many more jobs would we see, if you have to struggle to find things to buy that aren't coming in here from China?

BTW, I thought Nixon was the guy who normalized relations with China. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

G.

LWW
09-07-2011, 12:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The worst Bush crime of all, was when W. sold our country out to a communist nation, China, which has been cheating us ever since, unchecked, and why? Because Bush sold them the U.S. lock, stock and barrel!!!

I was a bit surprised to read this claim. Opening up China has been a project over many presidencies. Nixon, most famously, of course, but it was Carter, I think, who normalized diplomatic relations. What did W do along these lines himself?

It was shortly after the 9/11 events, still in the shock and awe stages, that the US granted China Most Favored Nation status. </div></div>

Well ... you have to realize that charlotte is simply an agitprop.

I would concur, however, if her point had been tha Bush the Elder betrayed the interests of freedom protests in Tinytim Square much as Obama did during the stillborn Iranian revolt.

Soflasnapper
09-07-2011, 03:44 PM
BTW, I thought Nixon was the guy who normalized relations with China. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

While his mission broke the deep freeze somewhat, relations were not normalized entirely.

The Nixon Library offers this:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">President Nixon's trip to China in 1972 ended twenty-five years of isolation between the United States and the People's Republic of China (PRC) and resulted in establishment of diplomatic relations between the two countries in 1979. </div></div>

So it was Carter, actually.

Gayle in MD
09-14-2011, 09:34 AM
We must destroy Repiglican Fascism before it's too late!

DickLeonard
12-11-2011, 04:08 PM
If i knew anything about providing a link I'd have fifty thousand posts by now.####

Stretch
12-11-2011, 06:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DickLeonard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If i knew anything about providing a link I'd have fifty thousand posts by now.#### </div></div>

I just read some of the "Bush Crime family and the destruction of America", and it almost turned my stomach. St.

Soflasnapper
12-11-2011, 07:12 PM
I've been reading Russ Baker's 'Family of Secrets' (concerning the Bush family), and it is a real eye-opener!

hondo
12-12-2011, 07:04 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DickLeonard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If i knew anything about providing a link I'd have fifty thousand posts by now.#### </div></div>

LMFAO! Good one, Dick. Nice to see you posting.

JohnnyD
12-13-2011, 05:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hondo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DickLeonard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If i knew anything about providing a link I'd have fifty thousand posts by now.#### </div></div>

LMFAO! Good one, Dick. Nice to see you posting. </div></div>
Why did you lie?
WHy are you a sinner and a poser?