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Qtec
09-08-2011, 03:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rick Perry On Jon Huntsman Science Attack At GOP Debate: ‘Galileo Got Outvoted For A Spell’ </div></div>

LOL

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At Wednesday night’s Republican Presidential Debate, Politico’s John Harris played the dreaded “disagreement card,” asking Jon Huntsman to explain which of his rivals were “anti-science.”

Huntsman wouldn’t name names, but Harris directed the criticism to Gov. Rick Perry for a response, and Perry countered by comparing modern climate change skeptics with Galileo.

Harris tried to get Huntsman to engage his rivals directly about harsh criticisms he has made over their skepticism about things like evolution and climate change. In a moment reminiscent of Tim Pawlenty‘s “Obamneycare” wimp-out, Huntsman refused, instead reiterating his more general critique that his party can’t succeed if people perceive them as anti-science.

Harris then turned to Perry, setting him back on his heels by asking him to name a scientist with a compelling case against climate change. Perry responded with “the science is not settled” sloganeering, then pointed out that “Just because you have a group of scientists who have stood up and said ‘Here’s the fact…’ Galileo got outvoted for a spell.”

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>He’s absolutely right about that, but he fails to mention that Galileo got outvoted by a group of people whose scientific methodology included the rotational properties of a swinging dead cat.</span> He was literally outvoted by a spell, or more likely, a whole book of them. While it’s still not infallible, scientific consensus has evolved (oops! “intelligently designed?”) considerably since then. </div></div>

watch it here (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-perry-on-jon-huntsman-science-attack-at-gop-debate-galileo-got-outvoted-for-a-spell/)

Take 2.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WASHINGTON - Whatever path Rick Perry had to a general election victory got narrower with each word the Texas governor spoke Wednesday night about Social Security. Perry declined the opportunity to back down from his book's claim that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme at the GOP primary debate Wednesday night, going so far as to criticize his former adviser and current agitator Karl Rove for calling his language provocative.

"Karl has been over the top for a long time in some of his remarks. So I am not responsible for Karl anymore," he said.

Earlier, Perry had re-affirmed his belief that Social Security was based on a "monstrous lie" and that absent reforms -- like giving control of the program to the states -- it would not be there for future generations.

"The fact is, we have to be focused on how we are going to change this program," the Texas governor said. "Men and women receiving those benefits today ... don't need to worry about anything. The Republican candidates are talking about ways to transition this program and it is a monstrous lie. It is a Ponzi scheme." </div></div>

watch it here. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/07/rick-perry-karl-rove-social-security-ponzi-scheme_n_953160.html)

He wants to kill the most popular govt program ever [ like that's going to get him elected !] and then he shows he is as dumb as a rock with the Galileo comment.

It might win the looney Right vote but the rest of the sane population won't buy it.

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Qtec
09-08-2011, 05:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Texas Gov. Rick Perry clung to his skepticism of climate change science in Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate when he was asked if he believes man-made climate change is happening.

“The science is not settled on this. The idea that we would put Americans’ economy at jeopardy based on scientific theory that’s not settled yet to me is just nonsense,” Perry said. “Just because you have a group of scientists who stood up and said here is the fact. Galileo got outvoted for a spell,” he said.

Perry was referencing the Galileo affair of the 1600′s when the scientist was accused of heresy for his scientific theories. Through his telescopic findings, Galileo offered support for heliocentrism, the scientific theory first developed by Copernicus that the sun is stationary and the planets revolved around it, but this was in direct conflict with scientific and philosophical theories of Aristotle and Ptolemy, who believed the Earth was the center of the universe, and the Catholic Church, which adhered to a literalist interpretation of Scripture, such as Psalm 104:5 which reads “the Lord set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.”

Galileo underwent a trial in 1633 for his book “Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems,” which compared the theories of Copernicus and Ptolemy. Galileo was convicted of grave suspicion of heresy” and was sentenced to house arrest for the duration of his life.

In 2000, Pope John Paul II issued an apology for the mistakes committed by Catholics over the past 2,000 years. </div></div>


Perry got it a$$ backwards. What a dork!

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eg8r
09-08-2011, 07:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">“The science is not settled on this. The idea that we would put Americans’ economy at jeopardy based on scientific theory that’s not settled yet to me is just nonsense,”</div></div>He could have stopped there because only insane people and those on the climate change "teet" would disagree.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
09-08-2011, 08:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Texas Gov. Rick Perry clung to his skepticism of climate change science in Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate when he was asked if he believes man-made climate change is happening.

“The science is not settled on this. The idea that we would put Americans’ economy at jeopardy based on scientific theory that’s not settled yet to me is just nonsense,” Perry said. “Just because you have a group of scientists who stood up and said here is the fact. Galileo got outvoted for a spell,” he said.

Perry was referencing the Galileo affair of the 1600′s when the scientist was accused of heresy for his scientific theories. Through his telescopic findings, Galileo offered support for heliocentrism, the scientific theory first developed by Copernicus that the sun is stationary and the planets revolved around it, but this was in direct conflict with scientific and philosophical theories of Aristotle and Ptolemy, who believed the Earth was the center of the universe, and the Catholic Church, which adhered to a literalist interpretation of Scripture, such as Psalm 104:5 which reads “the Lord set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.”

Galileo underwent a trial in 1633 for his book “Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems,” which compared the theories of Copernicus and Ptolemy. Galileo was convicted of grave suspicion of heresy” and was sentenced to house arrest for the duration of his life.

In 2000, Pope John Paul II issued an apology for the mistakes committed by Catholics over the past 2,000 years. </div></div>


Perry got it a$$ backwards. What a dork!

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He's dumb as a rock, obviously, would be a disaster for this country, and just as obviously, the ignorant, radical. knuckle dragging neanderthal Repiglicans will embrace him for his anti-science stance, and then, there's thing that they always fall in love with, and still haven't learned to be suspicious of, after Bush's multi disastrous performance, he has a swagger!

They all looked like a bunch of diots.

Huntsman was the only rational person there, and the right won't embrace him, for that very reason.

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llotter
09-08-2011, 09:15 AM
If SS is so popular, why is participation mandatory? My guess is that if it were voluntary, very few young people would sign up.

And, of course, the leftist religion of global climate change is nothing more than another in a long list of elitist attempts to take total control of our society. The truth is that those elitists are not smart enough to construct a believable scheme that the average guy doesn't recognize as an obvious fraud.

Gayle in MD
09-08-2011, 09:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If SS is so popular, why is participation mandatory? My guess is that if it were voluntary, very few young people would sign up.

And, of course, the leftist religion of global climate change is nothing more than another in a long list of elitist attempts to take total control of our society. The truth is that those elitists are not smart enough to construct a believable scheme that the average guy doesn't recognize as an obvious fraud. </div></div>

The truth is that you are too narrow minded to grasp the FACT, that regardless of what you believe about global warming, the growing use of fosile fuels, by third world nations, which are moving into industrialized economies, very quickly, will cause global disaster, according the the vast Scientific community, and even if you continue to deny science, you are stunningly ignorant to deny the reality that we are running out of fosile fuels! Why do you think that China is trying to get the jump on clean, renewable fuels? The nation which takes the lead in clean renewable fuels, will own the future.

The fact that the right, has been brain washed by The Grand Oil Party, which has held this country back from addressing what is a coming disaster, won't change the FACT that we are running out of fosile fuels!!!

Wake UP! You are denying the impact of a hot, flat and crowded planet!

Repiglicans are Knuckle Dragging Neanderthals! The damages of their policies, obstrruction, propaganda, and lies, are unfathomable!

G.

eg8r
09-08-2011, 09:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wake UP! You are denying the impact of a hot, flat and crowded planet!
</div></div>Uh oh, not another nut that still believes the earth is flat. Seriously gayle, this has been proven otherwise a million times over by now.

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Gayle in MD
09-08-2011, 09:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wake UP! You are denying the impact of a hot, flat and crowded planet!
</div></div>Uh oh, not another nut that still believes the earth is flat. Seriously gayle, this has been proven otherwise a million times over by now.

eg8r </div></div>

Once again, you prove your ignorance.

The term isn't meant to be literal, which, had you ever done any actual reading, or study, on the subject of Global Climate Change, you would have known.

Stunning ignorance, and lack of education, combined with stunning bravado, is the Repiglican Way, but it doesn't fly with those of us who have bothered to do their research, with an "open" mind.

G.

llotter
09-08-2011, 01:20 PM
The free market is the most efficient method to cope with changing circumstances. It is really a miracle of capitalism that it not only is the best economic system but also the natural consequence of individual liberty. Central planning is always doomed to failure as witness all the grand government programs that are corrupting our culture and driving us into bankruptcy.

Gayle in MD
09-08-2011, 08:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: llotter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The free market is the most efficient method to cope with changing circumstances. It is really a miracle of capitalism that it not only is the best economic system but also the natural consequence of individual liberty. Central planning is always doomed to failure as witness all the grand government programs that are corrupting our culture and driving us into bankruptcy. </div></div>

Your so called "Free market, is what is driving us into bankruptsey, it isn't a "Free Market" anymore, it is a hidden, dark, con, where the wealthy practice fraud, in order to steal more from the rest.


Central planning is what created the roads you drive on every day.... the bridges you cross, and tunnels you use, the safety of the food and water you consume, the medicine your are sold.

Central Planning is what rescues you from floods and tornadoes, earthquakes and fires, foreign attacks and hurricanes.

You righties are so unrealistic, it's truly pitiful.

The purpose of Central Planning is to organize to provide what the individual cannot provide for himself. It's called, "Provide for the common good." Ever heard of that?

Since Repiglicans hate the Federal Government so much, they should stay the hell out of it! Their philosophies only corrupt it, and hold it back from providing the safety net which the vast majority of Americans, do not want to give up.

It isn't logical at all to think the Republicans could honorably serve in an institution that they hate!

But, I can assure you, that McConnell, Boehner, Cantor and Ryan, will be fully accessing their own Medicare and Social Security, with glee, while they are chipping away at, and destroying everyone else's.

Stop blaming the government, for what Corporate greedy pigs have done to our country, with the aid and protection of the Repiglican Party, the party they bought and paid for, to do their bidding. Only the Dems protect the consumer, and preserve our national safety nets. hence, Rick Parry can kiss the presidency good by, because he will never be elected by calling social security, a Ponzi Scheme.

All Americans do not hate their government, only the radical right, Republican Party, which is now totally radical and irrational, and completely fascist.

G.

eg8r
09-09-2011, 01:04 PM
LOL, so when are you going to open your mind?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
09-14-2011, 09:24 AM
We must destroy Repigloican Fascism before it's too late!