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09-13-2011, 08:39 PM
<span style='font-size: 20pt'>The Cult of Death</span>
Tuesday 13 September 2011
by: William Rivers Pitt, Truthout | Op-Ed

Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

- Matthew 25:40 (King James)

Trying to figure out what this whole "Tea Party" phenomenon is all about is a lot like trying to peer into the bottom of a muddy pool. The "mainstream" news media has accepted them as a legitimate, powerful force in American politics, as evidenced by CNN's so-called "Tea Party Debate" for the Republican presidential candidates on Monday night. A group that did not exist three years ago suddenly has enough clout to rate a television banner and a chunk of prime-time coverage.

But who are these people, really?

Clearly, they are made up of what used to be quaintly called the "GOP base." In large part, they are the people who voted for George W. Bush twice, and would have happily pulled the lever for him a third time had he been on the ballot in 2008. They struggled mightily with John McCain's nomination in 2008, thanks to McCain's occasional political heresies against Mr. Bush, and their reticence to get behind McCain is a sizeable part of the explanation for why his campaign chose Sarah Palin as his running mate. No matter how galactically absurd the decision to tap Palin turned out to be, it was a calculated gamble because GOP base voters - now reborn as "Tea Party" voters - absolutely adore her. McCain needed those votes, and chose to roll the dice.

Ergo, these people have real muscle, at least within the party. Few voting blocs are as reliable as the GOP base, and they always turn out en masse for presidential primaries and caucuses. Thus, they are coddled and catered to, even by candidates who don't necessarily share their orthodoxy on far-right conservative issues.

After the 2008 election, that GOP base was transmogrified into the "Tea Party," thanks in large part to massive financial assistance from people like the Koch brothers, who have been using their vast financial resources to undercut the Obama administration and congressional Democrats at every opportunity. Their money helped to organize "Tea Party" rallies, as well as the much-documented bedlam that broke loose at a variety of health care town halls around the country. The "mainstream" news media fell in love with the spectacle, and all of a sudden, this new thing became all the rage (pardon the pun) on the nightly broadcasts.

There's more than a bit of sad irony in this. "Tea Party" people like to think of themselves as a grassroots "movement" born of, so they believe, a national sense of horror at the fact that Barack Obama is president. They peddled the farcical idea that Mr. Obama's birth certificate didn't exist, that he is a secret socialist fascist communist Muslim Islamist terrorist mole...but in the main, they are nothing more than useful idiots following the beat of drummers who couldn't care less about them at the end of the day.

And yes, "idiots" is the proper word. We've seen it often enough by now: the astonishingly poor spelling on protest signs carried by pear-shaped blivets wearing ill-fitting camouflage gear while packing rifles and pistols to public rallies, best personified by the brain donor who proudly held up a placard reading, "Keep Your Damned Government Hands Off My Medicare." It's like a zen koan. The dizzying stupidity represented therein literally stops the mind.

Whatever else these "Tea Party" people are, they are most definitely White Christians, with a strong strain of the evangelical, due in large part to the GOP-base DNA most of them share.

And that's where things get really interesting.

During the GOP debate last week, Rick Perry burnished his law-and-order credentials by bragging about the 234 executions - at least one of which took the life of an innocent man - he has presided over while governor of Texas. The GOP crowd at the debate went absolutely wild, cheering and hooting their approval of the taking of so much life.

On Monday night, candidate Ron Paul was given a hypothetical about providing health care to a dying man who lacked health insurance. Wolf Blitzer, who moderated the debate, asked Paul, "Are you saying society should just let him die?" Before Paul could cobble together an answer, the "Tea Party" audience again erupted, this time yelling "Yes!" in answer to Blitzer's question.


These "Tea Party" people profess to be representatives of average Americans, despite being a complete creation of the 0.1% wealthy elite. They claim government is too big, even as many of them hail from states (think Texas) that would utterly collapse without federal funding. They bring guns to public rallies. They like Medicare, until they are reminded that Medicare is a government program.

And they are Christians, members of the faithful, who enjoy executions and who think uninsured people should be left to die.

Correction: they are "Christians," because it is impossible to build any kind of bridge between the teachings of Jesus and the beliefs these people espouse at the top of their lungs.

They are not Christians, but are in fact a death-worshipping cult. The best response to the vile display broadcast by CNN on Monday night was provided by former Florida Rep. Alan Grayson, who has had more than a few go-rounds with this particular breed of cat. "What you saw tonight," said Grayson, "is something much more sinister than not having a healthcare plan. It's sadism, pure and simple. It's the same impulse that led people in the Coliseum to cheer when the lions ate the Christians. And that seems to be where we are heading - bread and circuses, without the bread. The world that Hobbes wrote about - 'the war of all against all.'"

Thanks to the "mainstream" news media, to ardent yet covert supporters like the Koch brothers, and to the sweaty intensity of their own deranged ideals, these "Tea Party" people have emerged as a true force in American politics. What we saw last week, and on Monday night, is a glimpse of what the world would be like if these people achieve the supremacy they seek.

Jesus wept.


09-13-2011, 09:40 PM
"Persecuted by Rome" and more lies

No claim that Christians had been "thrown to wild beasts in the Colosseum" was made until the 17th century – until the amphitheatre was being pillaged for building material to rebuild St Peters.

Link (Clearly, the claims of historic Christian persecution in the Colosseum were made to justify the pillaging for St Peters.)
Jesuit Fr. Delehaye, a Bollandist - that is, an expert on saints and martyrs:
Delehaye has shown in a special study that all stories of Christians being exposed to lions in the Roman Amphitheater [the Colosseum] (which so moved Mr. G.B. Shaw that he based a play on them) are bogus.

-- How Christianity Grew Out of Paganism, by Joseph McCabe
He has shown that no Christian was put to death in the Coliseum

-- A Rationalist Encyclopaedia, by Joseph McCabe
Nevertheless, the Pope commemorates the martyrs at the Colosseum every Easter, having consecrated the area to these non-existent Christian martyrs. Of course, he is fully aware that not a single Christian was executed there. But then, that's the least of the fictions he's involved in.

09-13-2011, 09:43 PM
Constantius ... made ten times as many Christian martyrs in twenty years as the Pagan emperors had made in two hundred and fifty, and introduced methods of savagery which even the Goths and Vandals would not emulate.
-- The Testament of Christian Civilization, by Joseph McCabe

Let us also reflect that Christianity introduced the systematic persecution of heresy and unbelief. Such a principle was entirely foreign to Paganism. The Roman law tolerated every form of religion and every system of philosophy. Its impartiality was so absolute that the Pantheon of the eternal city afforded niches to all the gods of the empire; yet when Tiberius was asked to allow the prosecution of a Roman citizen for blaspheming the deities he replied: "No, let the gods defend their own honor."

We do not deny that the Christians were persecuted, although we challenge their exaggerated account of their sufferings. But their partial and occasional persecutions were prompted by political motives. They were regarded as members of a secret society, at once offensive to their Pagan neighbors and dangerous to the State; and although they were sometimes punished, their doctrines were never proscribed.

The principle of persecution was first infused into the Roman law by Constantine. According to Renan (Les Apôtres):
"We may search in vain the whole Roman law before Constantine for a single passage against freedom of thought, and the history of the imperial government furnishes no instance of a prosecution for entertaining an abstract doctrine."

-- Crimes of Christianity, by G W Foote & J M Wheeler

09-13-2011, 09:48 PM
This page contains excerpts from "Legends of Saints and Martyrs" (Chapter 15) of The Story of Religious Controversy, by historian and former Catholic priest Joseph McCabe.
About Joseph McCabe, formerly a Franciscan monk:

In regard to Christianity and, especially, Catholicism, McCabe was perhaps the most learned atheist writer who ever lived. This was a result of his native gifts and his background--he was a former Catholic priest, fluent in Latin and several other languages, who had taught philosophy and ecclesiastical history in a Catholic college. During his lifetime (1867-1956) he translated dozens of books and wrote hundreds of his own books and pamphlets, all on various aspects of history, and a great many on religious topics.
From the biography in the publisher's note in the reprinting by See Sharp Press (1998) of McCabe's pamphlet How Christianity Grew Out of Paganism (1943).

09-13-2011, 10:03 PM
St. Hermagoras comes next to the block; and, as the seat of his martyrdom, Aquileia, is said to be "a town of the province of Austria" (which is very much like describing Mexico City in the sixteenth century as "a town in the province of Bolivia"), his head soon falls. Then we reach the very touching and beautiful tale of St. Thecla, which nuns still read with blushing admiration.
Thecla was a "very beautiful and very learned" (of course) pagan lady who was converted by Paul (the tent-maker), and her constant and tender companionship alleviated the burden of his apostolate. She took a life-vow of virginity; and, when the persecution broke out, the pagans thought it a relevant punishment to remove all her clothes before she was presented to the lions. But even the lions, Tillemont elegantly (with just a spice of irony) quotes from the legend, "did not dare to violate her virginity by too free a look." (She is said in the Roman Breviary to have been ninety years old.) So the lions -- I mean on account of her vow -- veiled their eyes, and licked her feet, and even the fire would not burn her, and so on. Tillemont ungallantly proves that the sources of these stories are absolutely worthless, and that, according to the most reliable of the documents this "first lady martyr," as the Greek church calls her, died peacefully in her bed at an advanced age -- if there ever was such a person.

09-14-2011, 04:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sheldon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

- Matthew 25:40 (King James)</div></div>

So how does that relate to the millions which have been de facto given a death sentence so that the moonbat crazy left could claim moral superiority by banning DDT?

Or, with the millions of babies that have been murdered?

09-14-2011, 05:20 AM
They dont care about the deaths Larry. They only care that they won the debate.

Gayle in MD
09-14-2011, 09:02 AM
Tap Tap Tap!

The sickness which the Tea Party sheep, and their hate spewing, anti-AMerican Repiglican contenders displayed in that debate, provided us a horror picture of shameless Repiglicans, and their ignorant, bought and paid for, Tea Party, base, a so called "Christain" base, which makes the corrupted souls who backed Hitler, look like the nuns of mercy.

The Tea Party supporters represent the dumbest among us.

They continue to vote against their own best interests, and worse, against the best interests of their own children, and future generations, who will suffer and die in the filth of a bribed Repiglican, Carcenogenic laden world, which POLLUTERS BUY THROUGH THEIR BRIBES TO Repiglicans, WHO IN TURN PROVIDE a free ticket for corporate fascist pigs, to steal from all of us, AND destroy OUR environment, making Americans, and our children, and future generations, ill, AS THEY DESTROY OUR ENVIRONMENT.

Nothing could be funnier than Bachmann, uttering anything about personal rights, when she has demonized, and made money off trashing whole groups of Americans, and makes money to this day by trying to deny other's of their Constitutional rights, demonizing gays, women, and innocent homosexual children, and showing no respect for the Office of the Presidency, or the rights of others.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Listening to Perry try to put a complicated policy sentence together is like watching a chimp play with a locked suitcase.

If we lack enough decent Americans to stand against this corrupted bunch of lying pigs, we are in huge trouble.

PIGS, all of them, PIGS!

Repiglicans just voted down providing aid for the recent victims of natural disasters in our country.

If it doesn't kill people, or leave them suffering on the street, Repiglicanns will block it.

PIGS, all of them, PIGS!