JJFSTAR

10-08-2011, 11:19 AM

The reason I have asked this question and my real question is “is pool more like chess flavored poker or poker flavored chess?” is my current students and how to get them to make better decisions. Pool is IMHO poker flavored chess but if when you are playing you think of it more as chess flavored poker it might lead you to making better decisions. I am of the opinion that it is the skill that comes first. No question about it I think; ALL great pool players are great shot makers period, not most ALL. All good pool players calculate many moves in advance of what they are going to do just like a chess player. Now most of the “skill” of poker is being able to calculate the “odds” what is most likely to fall, what is/are my opponent/opponents most likely plays, what do they “most likely” have etc.. But what if you are unfamiliar with thinking this way in terms of pool?

Your typical APA 3 or 4 cannot do either very well the first reason is that just like the beginning chess player they have not yet formed the “neural pathways” that will allow them to think more than a shot or move or 2 ahead. Also like the beginning poker player they don’t know the “odds of what is most likely to happen” So what is the quickest way to get them to understand how to take on this mammoth task? Is it to emphasize that you need to calculate out what you are going to do far in advance or calculate all of the “odds” of what is going to happen or what is most likely to happen when you shoot a particular shot? What are the odds of making the shot, what are the odds of me making the run, what are the odds of leaving my opponent an easy out if I miss, what is the risk/reward of this shot etc..

With us these calculations of the odds happen in nanoseconds but with your lower level league players they happen to a limited extent if at all. I think I am going to try this question on at least one of my students and see how it goes. I will be interested in seeing if it makes them calculate out better and hopefully eventually farther as well. I hope this clears up the question at the outset and lets everyone understand that what I am asking has nothing to do with luck or gambling. If you have not followed this post please see the post by me “Silly Question”

Your typical APA 3 or 4 cannot do either very well the first reason is that just like the beginning chess player they have not yet formed the “neural pathways” that will allow them to think more than a shot or move or 2 ahead. Also like the beginning poker player they don’t know the “odds of what is most likely to happen” So what is the quickest way to get them to understand how to take on this mammoth task? Is it to emphasize that you need to calculate out what you are going to do far in advance or calculate all of the “odds” of what is going to happen or what is most likely to happen when you shoot a particular shot? What are the odds of making the shot, what are the odds of me making the run, what are the odds of leaving my opponent an easy out if I miss, what is the risk/reward of this shot etc..

With us these calculations of the odds happen in nanoseconds but with your lower level league players they happen to a limited extent if at all. I think I am going to try this question on at least one of my students and see how it goes. I will be interested in seeing if it makes them calculate out better and hopefully eventually farther as well. I hope this clears up the question at the outset and lets everyone understand that what I am asking has nothing to do with luck or gambling. If you have not followed this post please see the post by me “Silly Question”