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Qtec
10-10-2011, 01:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look folks, are you sure you're doing this right? I mean, where are the TV hosts providing daily updates and talking points? Where's the billionaire supporter to arrange signs, flags, stages, entertainment and giant star-spangled touring buses? Where are the nice pre-printed bullet point lists and glossy handouts that summarize 40 pieces of legislation already on the floor of the House (or being drafted by lobbyists) which absolutely everyone there supports 110 percent? Where's the media empire telling you when to meet, how long to meet, who to cheer, who to hate, what to say and how to vote? Do you even have a list of commercial sponsors?

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Come on. Is this any way to run a spontaneous, grassroots movement?
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You may wonder why the tea party was so readily picked up by the media, but it's not a secret. The tea party was the media. Is the media. <u>It was created as a media stunt, nurtured as a publicity event for a network and its pundits, and shaped to be a reliable trumpet that only Rupert can blow.</u> Not only did the meetings come at predictable intervals (same tea time, same tea channel), with announced agendas, it just so happened that there were dozens of pundits conveniently available on day one, ready to provide commentary and insight. Better still, most of these tea party spokesmen or grassroots leaders were familiar faces who had been on air before, and who were being put forward by the same conservative organizations who line up guests every week for ABC through NPR. They wore camera-friendly clothing, knew when to laugh with the host, and could recite their positions like they'd been doing it for years. Because they had. </div></div>

See the difference?

Q...

LWW
10-10-2011, 03:44 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look folks, are you sure you're doing this right? I mean, where are the TV hosts providing daily updates <span style='font-size: 11pt'><span style="color: #3333FF">CNN/MSNBC/HNN/INN/CBS/ABC/NBC ... they are everywhere.</span></span> and talking points? Where's the billionaire supporter <span style='font-size: 11pt'><span style="color: #3333FF">Gyorgy Soros</span></span> to arrange signs, flags, stages, entertainment and giant star-spangled touring buses? Where are the nice pre-printed bullet point lists and glossy handouts that summarize 40 pieces of legislation already on the floor of the House (or being drafted by lobbyists) which absolutely everyone there supports 110 percent? Where's the media empire telling you when to meet, how long to meet, who to cheer, who to hate, what to say and how to vote? Do you even have a list of commercial sponsors?

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Come on. Is this any way to run a spontaneous, grassroots movement?
</span>
You may wonder why the tea party was so readily picked up by the media, but it's not a secret. The tea party was the media. Is the media. <u>It was created as a media stunt, nurtured as a publicity event for a network and its pundits, and shaped to be a reliable trumpet that only Rupert can blow.</u> Not only did the meetings come at predictable intervals (same tea time, same tea channel), with announced agendas, it just so happened that there were dozens of pundits conveniently available on day one, ready to provide commentary and insight. Better still, most of these tea party spokesmen or grassroots leaders were familiar faces who had been on air before, and who were being put forward by the same conservative organizations who line up guests every week for ABC through NPR. They wore camera-friendly clothing, knew when to laugh with the host, and could recite their positions like they'd been doing it for years. Because they had. </div></div>

See the difference?

Q... </div></div>

Yes ... this group is a bunch of brain dead leftbots.

Qtec
10-10-2011, 07:35 AM
The LACK of orginisation PROVES that its grassroots, not like the TB with their Fox News promotion and the buses! Where did they come from.???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Astroturf In Action: <span style='font-size: 26pt'>Right-Wing Billionaire David Koch Pays For 40 Buses To Haul In Protesters</span>

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Koch Bros good- OWS protesters bad (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/11/05/68017/david-koch-astroturf/)
What you are seeing is real Democracy in action, something you have always been for.
Now that the majority is doing just that, you can't handle it. The majority don't agree with you. Accept it or become the enemy. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Is there something wrong with their thinking or with YOURS??????????,

Q

Gayle in MD
10-10-2011, 08:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The LACK of orginisation PROVES that its grassroots, not like the TB with their Fox News promotion and the buses! Where did they come from.???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Astroturf In Action: <span style='font-size: 26pt'>Right-Wing Billionaire David Koch Pays For 40 Buses To Haul In Protesters</span>

</div></div>

Koch Bros good- OWS protesters bad (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/11/05/68017/david-koch-astroturf/)
What you are seeing is real Democracy in action, something you have always been for.
Now that the majority is doing just that, you can't handle it. The majority don't agree with you. Accept it or become the enemy. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Is there something wrong with their thinking or with YOURS??????????,

Q </div></div>

This movement is the essence of a spontaneous demonstration of we the people, unfettered, and unsullied by political crooks.

This is "We The People" finally, not we the rich, not we the greedy, not we the liars, but We The People.

Finally, a real display of grass roots, Americanism, and it's too big to fail...because it is truth on steroids....

LOL, Murdoch must be crying in his caviar. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

G.

eg8r
10-10-2011, 09:10 AM
There is no difference. The tea party was successful and the left wants to emulate it. No new ideas from the left just copy and steal.

eg8r

LWW
10-10-2011, 09:52 AM
Why do you see giving someone a free bus ride as unacceptable ... but you have no issue when the left pays people a wage plus benefits, food, and transportation for a "GRASS ROOTS" assemblage?

Gayle in MD
10-10-2011, 11:47 AM
And for proof of how this effort is really being supported, here is a video, which proves that the OWS is getting their support, from donations....from like minded Americans...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/10/occupywallstreet-right-he_n_1003264.html
G.

LWW
10-10-2011, 01:34 PM
Your willingness to self delude know no bounds.

Qtec
10-11-2011, 03:25 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no difference. The tea party was successful and the left wants to emulate it. No new ideas from the left just copy and steal.

eg8r </div></div>

Really, you can't think of one difference?

Q

Qtec
10-11-2011, 03:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no difference. The tea party was successful and the left wants to emulate it. No new ideas from the left just copy and steal.

eg8r </div></div>

Really, not one difference? Think hard.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No new ideas from the left </div></div>

Now that's funny.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Tax cuts. De-regulation. Abortion. Illegals"</span>..........<u>where have I heard that before!!!</u>

Q

LWW
10-11-2011, 04:04 AM
I wonder how much it pays to be a "GRASS ROOTS" protester?

Qtec
10-11-2011, 04:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how much it pays to be a "GRASS ROOTS" protester? </div></div>

Ask the Koch Bros. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif

Very Grass roots.

http://iowacaucus.com/files/2011/08/TPBUS-300x225.jpg

More.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZkLBHvNLYYY/S7NuNV9BjKI/AAAAAAAACtk/SYN1kKkmhRg/s400/IMG_2213.JPG

Spending revolt!!!

http://media.cleveland.com/sunstarcourier/photo/tea-party-bus-18ea5f21aa6bdfeb_large.jpg


Q

LWW
10-11-2011, 05:25 AM
All they supplied was transportation.

Was the question too difficult for you?

Or, has David Plouffe not told you how to answer that one yet?

Or, are you simply devoid of sufficient intelligence to understand the question?

I'm guessing, in your case, it's all of the above.

eg8r
10-11-2011, 08:19 AM
No new ideas from the left, just copy and steal. Your big pony in this race has already admitted to it.

eg8r

cushioncrawler
10-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Economy
11 Facts You Need To Know About The Nation’s Biggest Banks
By Pat Garofalo on Oct 7, 2011 at 1:05 pm

The Occupy Wall Street protests that began in New York City more than three weeks ago have now spread across the country. The choice of Wall Street as the focal point for the protests — as even Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said — makes sense due to the big bank malfeasance that led to the Great Recession.

While the Dodd-Frank financial reform law did a lot to ensure that a repeat of the 2008 financial crisis won’t occur — through regulation of derivatives, a new consumer protection agency, and new powers for the government to dismantle failing banks — the biggest banks still have a firm grip on the financial system, even more so than before the 2008 financial crisis. Here are eleven facts that you need to know about the nation’s biggest banks:

– Bank profits are highest since before the recession…: According to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., bank profits in the first quarter of this year were “the best for the industry since the $36.8 billion earned in the second quarter of 2007.” JP Morgan Chase is currently pulling in record profits.

– …even as the banks plan thousands of layoffs: Banks, including Bank of America, Barclays, Goldman Sachs, and Credit Suisse, are planning to lay off tens of thousands of workers.

– Banks make nearly one-third of total corporate profits: The financial sector accounts for about 30 percent of total corporate profits, which is actually down from before the financial crisis, when they made closer to 40 percent.

– Since 2008, the biggest banks have gotten bigger: Due to the failure of small competitors and mergers facilitated during the 2008 crisis, the nation’s biggest banks — including Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, and Wells Fargo — are now bigger than they were pre-recession. Pre-crisis, the four biggest banks held 32 percent of total deposits; now they hold nearly 40 percent.

– The four biggest banks issue 50 percent of mortgages and 66 percent of credit cards: Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Wells Fargo and Citigroup issue one out of every two mortgages and nearly two out of every three credit cards in America.

– The 10 biggest banks hold 60 percent of bank assets: In the 1980s, the 10 biggest banks controlled 22 percent of total bank assets. Today, they control 60 percent.

– The six biggest banks hold assets equal to 63 percent of the country’s GDP: In 1995, the six biggest banks in the country held assets equal to about 17 percent of the country’s Gross Domestic Product. Now their assets equal 63 percent of GDP.

– The five biggest banks hold 95 percent of derivatives: Nearly the entire market in derivatives — the credit instruments that helped blow up some of the nation’s biggest banks as well as mega-insurer AIG — is dominated by just five firms: JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Citibank, and Wells Fargo.

– Banks cost households nearly $20 trillion in wealth: Almost $20 trillion in wealth was destroyed by the Great Recession, and total family wealth is still down “$12.8 trillion (in 2011 dollars) from June 2007 — its last peak.”

– Big banks don’t lend to small businesses: The New Rules Project notes that the country’s 20 biggest banks “devote only 18 percent of their commercial loan portfolios to small business.”

– Big banks paid 5,000 bonuses of at least $1 million in 2008: According to the New York Attorney General’s office, “nine of the financial firms that were among the largest recipients of federal bailout money paid about 5,000 of their traders and bankers bonuses of more than $1 million apiece for 2008.”

In the last few decades, regulations on the biggest banks have been systematically eliminated, while those banks engineered more and more ways to both rip off customers and turn ever-more complex trading instruments into ever-higher profits. It makes perfect sense, then, that a movement calling for an economy that works for everyone would center its efforts on an industry that exemplifies the opposite.

Qtec
10-12-2011, 12:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All they supplied was transportation. <span style="color: #990000">LMAO</span>

Was the question too difficult for you?

Or, has David Plouffe not told you how to answer that one yet?

Or, are you simply devoid of sufficient intelligence to understand the question?

I'm guessing, in your case, it's all of the above. </div></div>

Its a leading question and I know where you are heading with this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Conspiracy Theories
Right-Wing Sites Succumb To Silly Occupy Wall Street Conspiracies
</div></div> ...like they are all there because Soros is paying them.!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A wave of reports "exposing" the secret liberal money behind the Wall Street occupation has been cresting over the right-wing blogosphere, which has been at a loss to explain how a movement of dumb dirty hippies has managed to build up attention and support rather than explode or fade away. The answer: cunning financier George Soros and his allies must be paying the bills and pulling the strings. </div></div>

link (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/10/right-wing_site.php)

Q

eg8r
10-12-2011, 08:36 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">11 Facts You Need To Know About The Nation’s Biggest Banks
</div></div>What, you missed the biggest fact that they gave more money to Barack than any other candidate in the last 20 years.

If you are against them you might as well tell us who they are fighting to keep in office.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
10-16-2011, 10:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All they supplied was transportation. <span style="color: #990000">LMAO</span>

Was the question too difficult for you?

Or, has David Plouffe not told you how to answer that one yet?

Or, are you simply devoid of sufficient intelligence to understand the question?

I'm guessing, in your case, it's all of the above. </div></div>

Its a leading question and I know where you are heading with this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Conspiracy Theories
Right-Wing Sites Succumb To Silly Occupy Wall Street Conspiracies
</div></div> ...like they are all there because Soros is paying them.!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A wave of reports "exposing" the secret liberal money behind the Wall Street occupation has been cresting over the right-wing blogosphere, which has been at a loss to explain how a movement of dumb dirty hippies has managed to build up attention and support rather than explode or fade away. The answer: cunning financier George Soros and his allies must be paying the bills and pulling the strings. </div></div>

link (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/10/right-wing_site.php)

Q </div></div>

Yeah, and Soros are paying for the protestss across the entire globe, too! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif


The forum unvasion by irrational RW idiots, who have been embraced by the formerly fewer RW idiots who were already here!!

G.