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10-10-2011, 10:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">According to Department of Justice whistleblower J. Christian Adams, AG <span style='font-size: 11pt'>Eric Holder has a certain something in his wallet. It is a quotation -- and he has carried it for decades. It essentially says, to quote Adams, </span><span style='font-size: 14pt'>"Blackness is more important than anything, and the black US attorney has common cause with the black criminal."</span> <span style='font-size: 11pt'>It's not surprising that Holder would feel this way about black lawyers and criminals.</span>

Because in his case they're one and the same.

Holder, the man whose misfeasance led him to drop the infamous Black Panther voter-intimidation case, now may have done what all corrupt men, sooner or later, eventually do. He has tripped up in his efforts to hide his misdeeds.

The issue stems from the Fast and Furious scandal, which refers to a gun-walking operation in which ATF officials allowed thousands of firearms to make their way to Mexican drug-cartel criminals. The operation was brought to light after a border-control agent named Brian Terry was murdered last December -- and two US-government-supplied weapons were discovered at the scene. And what was Holder's involvement? Writes CBSNews.com:

On May 3, 2011, Holder told a Judiciary Committee hearing, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."

Yet internal Justice Department documents show that at least ten months before that hearing, Holder began receiving frequent memos discussing Fast and Furious.

Note, again, that these were "frequent memos."

Of course, Holder is now trying to massage the issue. The DOJ's latest line is, writes CBS News, "Holder misunderstood that question [about when he learned of the operation] from the committee - he did know about Fast and Furious - just not the details."

This nonsensical cop-out speaks for itself, so let's discuss the reality of the matter. Holder could have lied to the Judiciary Committee. The other possibility is that he is suffering memory loss and is so incompetent that he didn't brief himself on a brewing major scandal on which he was going to testify in front of a congressional committee. I'm betting I know which one is the answer.

The Republicans now want to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Holder and his fast-and-furious dance of deception. And I say, dig long and dig deep. Because with the amount of dirt in Holder's closet, you'll find that Obama has created at least one shovel-ready job.

As for my title, it may seem odd jumping from Holder's bigotry to his alleged criminality. But I long ago learned that bigotry is a sign of personal corruption -- and it usually doesn't end there.

And I'll conclude by making a request of our post-racial president's attorney general. Mr. Holder, you once said that Americans were "cowards" in the area of race. Well, then, brave man, do you have the sand to come out of the closet? Produce that card from your wallet; proudly proclaim the beliefs you've long held so dear. Or is it that, deep down, the color other than red that epitomizes you most is yellow? </div></div>

Who wants to clean this one up? (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/10/the_black_us_attorney_has_common_cause_with_the_bl ack_criminal.html)

10-10-2011, 12:44 PM
Nothing to clean up except the splat from your premature jump to a conclusion. (Ewww, that's gotta hurt!)

Some questions of fact are indeed raised here (e.g., what did Holder know and when did he know it?), and until they are settled, some Nancy Grace-like expressions of your certainty of his guilt are unproven and without evidence to date.

It's relatively good that these written memos are correctly described now, compared to the claim that Holder had 'received BRIEFINGS,' but in correcting the prior lying language, another significant misrepresentation still exists.

These 'frequent memos' describing some things about this program are admitted to NOT contain any incriminating statements concerning the gun-walking aspect of this program. Absolute fact, and admitted to by the National Review On-Line reporter.

Moreover, these <s>formerly claimed to be 'briefings'</s> now admitted to be memos which did not include any mention the troubling activities whatsoever consisted of little more than a brief paragraph in what was a 100 page or more broad update memo on all manner of things unrelated to this program.

So the claim of those asserting Holder is clearly guilty amounts to whether his newer admission of having had some general knowledge of the program before the beginning of this year means he had knowledge of the particular part, the gun-walking part, from the beginning of his knowledge, as well, and whether it's credible that his comment about when he found this out referred only to the gun-walking critical details, or to the program as a whole.

Perhaps it is not credible, or even if credible, it's still false. Could be. Doesn't have to be, or at least, Holder's claims in this matter are reasonable enough you'd have to have more evidence than currently exists to back up the charges that he's lying about them.

Will this additional evidence prove to be there? Perhaps, but who knows? You think you know? Based on WHAT?

10-10-2011, 01:30 PM
Look straight up ... it went right over your head.

10-11-2011, 06:44 PM

Tell me, should we proceed immediately to the sentencing phase, pre-trial then, ala The Red Queen (execution first, trial afterwards)?

10-12-2011, 02:32 AM
Look again ... it's circling back around.

10-12-2011, 03:24 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Riiiiiight!

Tell me, should we proceed immediately to the sentencing phase, pre-trial then, ala The Red Queen (execution first, trial afterwards)?


Its funny, Freud and all that, that LWW posts a caricature of himself in his own signature space.


...he is the one on the right. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

To be honest, he's both.