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llotter
10-16-2011, 11:23 AM
The both the American Nazi and Communist parties have thrown their support behind the OWS movement along the the American Democratic Party, of course. All of these reprobates have been lying in the gutter together from the beginning so it is no surprise that they smell the same.

Soflasnapper
10-16-2011, 12:01 PM
Yes, it's startling to realize that the real original Nazis and the real original Communists, in Germany and Russia, respectively, were both financed and supported and critically put in power in their early days by money from Wall Street and their European (German) correspondent/parent investment firms.

Then we must remember that long ago, the CPUSA was entirely penetrated by FBI and other federal agents, to where the joke was that all attendees of any particular CPUSA meeting would all be federal double agents pretending to be true believers.

I should think the ANP would be similarly infiltrated and compromised as well.

Making the likelihood that both these endorsements are intentionally designed to discredit the OWS movement as in league with these disreputable people, actions taken under the influence of federal government provocateurs and/or Wall Street itself.

llotter
10-17-2011, 08:46 AM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249302_1698615195678_1546845214_31328421_399476_n. jpg

llotter
10-17-2011, 03:06 PM
Now Communist China has thrown its support behind the OWS group. Again it is amusing to watch the Left come together in broad daylight to make fools of themselves, though I won't be very surprised either if sheer stupidity wins the day in true Orwellian style.

Soflasnapper
10-17-2011, 04:43 PM
I won't be very surprised either if sheer stupidity wins the day in true Orwellian style.

So, that means you're predicting a GOP win for the WH? <g,d,r>

llotter
10-17-2011, 05:08 PM
Well, the Republican Party has long been called the Stupid Party but obviously I was referring to the leftist drivel that has been passing for intelligence for a very long time. You're in denial and, yes, it is amusing to watch.

llotter
10-19-2011, 07:24 PM
Well, another non-surprise comes to us by way of the endorsement of the OWS mob by none other that Barney Frank...or is it Barney Fag.

cushioncrawler
10-19-2011, 07:44 PM
We now hav Tparty candidates who kontrol Congress.
Iz there any talk of OWS candidates to stand against Tparty etc???
mac.

eg8r
10-19-2011, 09:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Iz there any talk of OWS candidates to stand against Tparty etc???</div></div>Nope but they sure are against Obama.

eg8r

Qtec
10-20-2011, 02:06 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Iz there any talk of OWS candidates to stand against Tparty etc???</div></div>Nope but they sure are against Obama.

eg8r </div></div>

If they were against Obama, they would be protesting outside the WH.
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Why do you think they are in WALL ST</span> [ think hard, its a clue ]....and you call me dumb.....LOL


Q

LWW
10-20-2011, 04:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style='font-size: 17pt'>Why do you think they are in WALL ST</span> [ think hard, its a clue ]....and you call me dumb.....LOL


Q </div></div>

Because their handlers told them to be there.

LWW
10-20-2011, 04:58 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

If they were against Obama, they would be protesting outside the WH.

....and you call me dumb.....LOL


Q </div></div>

Only because you earned it. (http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/10/occupy_dc_dispatch.html)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yesterday saw the biggest Occupy protests in Washington D.C. to date. While the actions in New York have been going since September 17, the District wasn’t “occupied” until October 1, when a small cohort took up residence in McPherson Square in downtown D.C. ...

The initial crowd was at about 1,000 people, mostly middle-aged and white. Vietnam veterans and parents of soldiers made their grievances known: There’s too much corporate greed, the Bush “crime family” is to blame for a decade of war in Afghanistan, and this non-violent, diverse movement cannot be stopped. ...

But the action wasn’t particularly diverse—-at least not at noon. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Though the protest picked up more people as it marched to the White House</span> and continued into the evening, it would be difficult to characterize it as a multiracial movement in D.C. At least not yet. </div></div>

eg8r
10-20-2011, 07:48 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they were against Obama, they would be protesting outside the WH.</div></div>Why you idiot. They are not called Occupy White House. You really are a schmuck. They are protesting everything about Wall St. Only you are dumb enough to not recognize that also includes politicians bought by Wall St and those politicians that are lenient enough on Wall St to allow them to get away with what they have gotten away with.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and you call me dumb</div></div>LOL, sorry schmuck but you have lowered the bar considerably from dumb. You have firmly planted yourself as the resident village idiot and it is posts like this which only prove it even more.

eg8r

eg8r
10-20-2011, 07:49 AM
He is such a dillhole. The hole in his face opens up much quicker than his little brain has a chance to close it.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
10-20-2011, 11:17 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Iz there any talk of OWS candidates to stand against Tparty etc???</div></div>Nope but they sure are against Obama.

eg8r </div></div>

If they were against Obama, they would be protesting outside the WH.
<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Why do you think they are in WALL ST</span> [ think hard, its a clue ]....and you call me dumb.....LOL


Q </div></div>

Exactly!

The protests at the White House, were all about Wall St., and against Repiglicans...why wouldn't they want the president to know their feelings.

They are Obama supporters.

The famous folks who have been out there WITH the protestors, all LIBERALS, and being cheered by ALL of the OWS protestors....proves that this is an anti-Repiglican policies, anti-Repiglican protections for the Wall St. PIGS, protest!

When you see Michael Moore, who fully supports President Obama, and is a DEMOCRAT, standing before the cheering crouds, and Union Leaders, and Teachers annd firement, as so many of them were in the crowd, that should tell you something, unless, of course, you're just the standard RW ignorant, reality twisting sheep, still slurpping off the FUX NOISE propaganda teat! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

LMAO!

G.

eg8r
10-20-2011, 11:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The protests at the White House, were all about Wall St., and against Repiglicans...why wouldn't they want the president to know their feelings.

They are Obama supporters.</div></div>LOL, our troll obviously has not been paying any attention to the OWS crowd. Also, based on her response here she just made qtip look like the idiot he is. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When you see Michael Moore, who fully supports President Obama, and is a DEMOCRAT, standing before the cheering crouds, and Union Leaders, and Teachers annd firement, as so many of them were in the crowd, that should tell you something, </div></div>Oh it tells us plenty. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif You never know when to close the hole do you. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

eg8r

cushioncrawler
10-20-2011, 03:53 PM
OWS need a clear and noble mission, and a good leader.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/scotto01/Amaircan%20Indian/edgar_paxon_1899_custers_last_stand.jpg

Qtec
10-20-2011, 04:50 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are not called Occupy White House.</div></div>

You really are a schmuck. LOL

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are protesting everything about Wall St. </div></div>

I thought you said they didn't even know what they were protesting about and that it was all hot air!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and those politicians that are lenient enough on Wall St to allow them <span style='font-size: 14pt'>to get away with what they have gotten away with.</span> </div></div>

MASSIVE FLIP FLOP.

You have<span style='font-size: 14pt'> <u>always said</u> the banks were not to blame for the crash but it was the low life deadbeats who couldn't pay their mortgage!!!!!!!!</span>

Pretty pathetic to see someone go back on everything they have said on a specific subject, just to try and win an argument.

Q

cushioncrawler
10-20-2011, 04:55 PM
Every year, just before Tax Day, the Internal Revenue Service conducts a dog and pony show to demonstrate how it is cracking down on tax cheats.
Routinely, the IRS focuses on stories that involve crooked tax preparers and small-time taxpayers who try to erase a few hundred and occasionally even a few thousand dollars from their bills.
This year was no exception. At a press conference on April 3, IRS Commissioner Mark Everson announced civil injunction suits against five corporations in Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago and Raleigh that are franchises of Jackson-Hewitt, the nation's second-largest tax preparation firm, which the IRS accused of routinely faking returns for some of its 100,000 clients.
Jackson-Hewitt is a quickie, low-fee operation. The IRS says stores accepted false W-2s and faked data to get clients the earned-income credit for the poor. The amount underpaid through returns prepared by 125 stores was estimated at $70 million.
While the story made national headlines, the government targeted an operation that catered to little guys, the poor and lower middle class. However, they failed to focus on some big-time tax cheats whose fraud was much greater, but who happen to be top-tier Republican contributors. What the press conference should have announced was: "Swift Boat" financier Sam Wyly cheated the U.S. of at least $300 million in taxes." And, "The money that paid for the "Swift Boat" campaign was your money!"
How does someone cheat the government out of that much money and -- until now -- get away with it?
Megabucks Sam didn't pull into a mall with a Jackson-Hewitt franchise store. He had expensive help from his bankers and accountants. The scam is detailed in a report issued Aug. 1 by the Senate Subcommittee on Investigations, the result of a lengthy probe by the staff of Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.
Everson knows about it because he testified at the hearing that presented the report.
Wyly did his cheating through an offshore scheme that hid $1 billion in profits via Isle of Man "shell companies" that existed only on paper, were registered under front men to hide the Wylys' names, and were used to carry out transactions and launder money. And that's only the hidden income that was found. The Dallas mogul, with a $1 billion admitted net worth, may be guilty of the biggest personal tax fraud in U.S. history.
Wyly used a system popular with megarich corporate executives. In 2000, Bank of America, the country's second-largest commercial bank, began offering a tax shelter called STARS, which the IRS has ruled illegal. Among the happy clients were Wyly and his brother Charles, who controlled the $5 billion Michaels Stores, the arts-and-crafts retailer with 900 shops.
The idea was to evade taxes by giving themselves stock options and transferring them to offshore corporations controlled by secret trusts in the Isle of Man, that famous British tax haven in the Irish Sea. "Manx" companies are routinely fakes; one of the front men on the boards of all the Wyly entities is a sheepherder, who picks up cash for use of his name.
U.S. law requires major stockholders to report their holdings to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Company officials from Michaels Stores admitted that the Wylys had transferred company securities to offshore trusts and subsidiaries, and that the company and the Wylys had not reported it.
If you want to know how they did it, read the following paragraph. If your eyes glaze over, skip to the next.
How the scam works: A public company grants stock options to a top executive. The executive transfers the options to a trust or partnership controlled by his or her family. The transfer is called a "sale" and the trust "pays" for the options with a note due in 20 or 30 years. After the options are transferred, the trust exercises the option to buy stocks which it sells on the market. The executive plays out the fiction that tax is not owed until the deferred payment date, although in fact he controls the profit stashed offshore in a secret account where the IRS can't find it.



Wyly dumped profits into two hedge funds in the offshore Cayman Islands and laundered that into an investment in an annuity in offshore Bermuda. The annuity was written by a Bermuda reinsurance company he set up himself and which had one client, Sam.
He and brother Charles used some of the tax-evading profits for loans, homes and ranches (two ranches worth $54 million near Aspen, Colo.; condominiums worth $13 million in downtown Aspen; a 95-acre ranch worth $12 million near Dallas; and an oceanfront property worth $8 million in Malibu). He also bought jewelry and art (a Rockwell painting). Why did Bush's IRS commissioner forget to mention Wyly? He might say it's because the IRS is investigating the case but hasn't taken definitive action.
However, there could be two other reasons. One is that Wyly was not only the financier of the Swift Boats fraud to discredit John Kerry during the 2004 presidential campaign, but the Wylys were Bush's ninth greatest career contributors, "Bush Pioneers," who collected $100,000 for the 2000 and 2004 presidential campaigns. (Your money.)
They also funded other leading Republicans. Sam Wyly, since 1997 has given Republicans more than $1 million and his brother Charles and wife have donated more than $1.3 million. Among the beneficiaries were William H. Frist, Wilbert J. Tauzin, Thomas Delay, John D. Ashcroft, Richard J. Santorum, John S. McCain, Mitch McConnell, Dick Armey, Elizabeth H. Dole, Christine Todd Whitman, Orrin G. Hatch, Phil Gramm, Alfonse M. D'Amato, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Arnold Schwarzenegger. They also funded the ironically named Good Government Fund, Freedom Works Pac and Straight Talk America.
But there's another reason why the Bush administration doesn't like highlighting Wyly-style tax cheating. The Wylys have a lot of company. Every major private banking department offers a product called the "private placement offshore of variable annuities."
According to the IRS, business executives have used such shelters to evade taxes on $8 billion in income. Assume that means "at least." And that's just one swindle in the panoply of tax cheating which the IRS says contributes to the loss of $40 billion to $70 billion a year from individual use and $30 billion from corporate use of tax havens.
Compare $100 billion of offshore cheating to the $70 million headlined by Everson this month.
Those numbers are probably low: According to a Tax Justice Network report quoted by the Senate investigation and based on statistics from Merrill Lynch/Cap Gemini's "World Wealth Report" and the Boston Consulting Group's "Global Wealth Report," 16.2 percent of the private wealth of North Americans, $1.6 trillion, is held offshore. The overwhelming reason for that is tax evasion.
The Wylys' fraud tells us what we ought to be focusing on in order to stop the mega-tax cheats. Think "offshore" and "tax haven," the parallel international financial system run by the world's big banks. It is built on a network of more than 70 jurisdictions that in various combinations sell secret shell companies -- fake paper fronts -- and anonymous bank accounts.
The big time cheaters -- individuals and corporations -- who evade taxes in the millions don't go to the mall, they go offshore. The multinational banks run the secret accounts and accept as legitimate the paper shells that "own" them and that serve the world's crooks, terrorists, dictators, arms and drug traffickers -- and tax cheats. Banks such as Citibank set up shell companies themselves for clients' convenience and sometimes have their own employees serve as front men, i.e., "directors."
Everson indicated concern at the April press conference about "the increasing complexity associated with structured entities and transactions in the international arena and then the offshore area."
But, at the same press conference, when Eileen O'Connor, assistant attorney general for the Tax Division, mentioned the nine-year prison term awarded tax cheat Walter Anderson, who started his fortune with Mid-Atlantic Telecom in Washington, D.C., she didn't explain that he had evaded more than $200 million in taxes through schemes based in the offshore British Virgin Islands and Panama. The investigation started in the Clinton administration.


Wyly dumped profits into two hedge funds in the offshore Cayman Islands and laundered that into an investment in an annuity in offshore Bermuda. The annuity was written by a Bermuda reinsurance company he set up himself and which had one client, Sam.
He and brother Charles used some of the tax-evading profits for loans, homes and ranches (two ranches worth $54 million near Aspen, Colo.; condominiums worth $13 million in downtown Aspen; a 95-acre ranch worth $12 million near Dallas; and an oceanfront property worth $8 million in Malibu). He also bought jewelry and art (a Rockwell painting). Why did Bush's IRS commissioner forget to mention Wyly? He might say it's because the IRS is investigating the case but hasn't taken definitive action.
However, there could be two other reasons. One is that Wyly was not only the financier of the Swift Boats fraud to discredit John Kerry during the 2004 presidential campaign, but the Wylys were Bush's ninth greatest career contributors, "Bush Pioneers," who collected $100,000 for the 2000 and 2004 presidential campaigns. (Your money.)
They also funded other leading Republicans. Sam Wyly, since 1997 has given Republicans more than $1 million and his brother Charles and wife have donated more than $1.3 million. Among the beneficiaries were William H. Frist, Wilbert J. Tauzin, Thomas Delay, John D. Ashcroft, Richard J. Santorum, John S. McCain, Mitch McConnell, Dick Armey, Elizabeth H. Dole, Christine Todd Whitman, Orrin G. Hatch, Phil Gramm, Alfonse M. D'Amato, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Arnold Schwarzenegger. They also funded the ironically named Good Government Fund, Freedom Works Pac and Straight Talk America.
But there's another reason why the Bush administration doesn't like highlighting Wyly-style tax cheating. The Wylys have a lot of company. Every major private banking department offers a product called the "private placement offshore of variable annuities."
According to the IRS, business executives have used such shelters to evade taxes on $8 billion in income. Assume that means "at least." And that's just one swindle in the panoply of tax cheating which the IRS says contributes to the loss of $40 billion to $70 billion a year from individual use and $30 billion from corporate use of tax havens.
Compare $100 billion of offshore cheating to the $70 million headlined by Everson this month.
Those numbers are probably low: According to a Tax Justice Network report quoted by the Senate investigation and based on statistics from Merrill Lynch/Cap Gemini's "World Wealth Report" and the Boston Consulting Group's "Global Wealth Report," 16.2 percent of the private wealth of North Americans, $1.6 trillion, is held offshore. The overwhelming reason for that is tax evasion.
The Wylys' fraud tells us what we ought to be focusing on in order to stop the mega-tax cheats. Think "offshore" and "tax haven," the parallel international financial system run by the world's big banks. It is built on a network of more than 70 jurisdictions that in various combinations sell secret shell companies -- fake paper fronts -- and anonymous bank accounts.
The big time cheaters -- individuals and corporations -- who evade taxes in the millions don't go to the mall, they go offshore. The multinational banks run the secret accounts and accept as legitimate the paper shells that "own" them and that serve the world's crooks, terrorists, dictators, arms and drug traffickers -- and tax cheats. Banks such as Citibank set up shell companies themselves for clients' convenience and sometimes have their own employees serve as front men, i.e., "directors."
Everson indicated concern at the April press conference about "the increasing complexity associated with structured entities and transactions in the international arena and then the offshore area."
But, at the same press conference, when Eileen O'Connor, assistant attorney general for the Tax Division, mentioned the nine-year prison term awarded tax cheat Walter Anderson, who started his fortune with Mid-Atlantic Telecom in Washington, D.C., she didn't explain that he had evaded more than $200 million in taxes through schemes based in the offshore British Virgin Islands and Panama. The investigation started in the Clinton administration.

hondo
10-20-2011, 05:24 PM
Eg gazed up at the enormous face. Five years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. Eg had won the victory over himself. He loved LWW."