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Soflasnapper
10-28-2011, 10:59 AM
Last night Hannity hosted Donald Trump for a segment or two on his radio show.

Trump expressed surprise and dismay that Rick Perry had such a poor showing in the debates, saying that was very different from how strong and direct he was at communicating when they met personally. But he acknowledged his debate performances were very bad.

Common wisdom, not much news in that. Then he went on to express amazement at how well Obama was doing, under the circumstances. Hannity pushed back referencing Obama's low job approval ratings. Trump said he was talking about the polling about the head-to-head matchups with various hopefuls in the GOP field, where Obama continues to lead all of them, generally.

On the McLaughlin Report, the final question was how long before Cain slips behind Romney's numbers again, and the consensus of his panel was soon-- ranging from 2nd week in November, to Thanksgiving, to Christmas.

Perhaps most surprising was the first question, as to considering the deposing of Libya's leader, who deserved the most credit: Sarkozy, Cameron, or Obama? The farthest left member of the panel, Eleanor Clift, said Sarkozy. PAT BUCHANAN said Obama, as the US was the indispensable power for this to have succeeded. McLaughlin pushed back that wasn't it true that Obama dithered, was reluctant, and led from behind, etc? Buchanan said the British ran out of missiles in the first day (I'd heard of their running out of missiles but thought it was after a week?), so c'mon, be serious, nothing could have happened there without the US, so clearly Obama deserves the major credit.

I was surprised at all the above, as both of the hosts asking these questions were surprised and disagreed with the answers of these two men of the right.

Qtec
10-28-2011, 08:13 PM
Why is anybody even listening to Trump?

Q

Soflasnapper
10-29-2011, 12:20 PM
An excellent question there!

Still, after his brief star turn leading the field, he continues to be the godfather or pope style icon, where the hopefuls line up to kiss his ring and receive his blessing. Weird.

The other interesting factoid from the M Group was the citing of the country's approval rating for Obama's handling of terrorism and related national security issues:

61% approve.

Gayle in MD
10-30-2011, 06:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is anybody even listening to Trump?

Q </div></div>

Exactly my thoughts.

Go figure! There is no explaining the irrationality of the RW thought process. False Gods, without substance, created by the right, have been the hallmark of their campaigns for decades.

Too bad our entire country has had to pay the price for it.

Their Candidates belong on SNL, as regulars.

Trump is a total joke. He'll do anything to keep his mug on camera.

G.

Qtec
10-30-2011, 06:26 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Still, after his brief star turn leading the field, he continues to be the godfather or pope style icon, where the hopefuls line up to kiss his ring and receive his blessing. Weird.</div></div>



The GOP selection process is weird. IMO there is not one candidate, maybe with the exception of Ron Paul, who actually says what they think.
Its a bit like a game show for politicians where they tell the audience what they want to hear in order to win.

Q

Gayle in MD
10-30-2011, 06:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Still, after his brief star turn leading the field, he continues to be the godfather or pope style icon, where the hopefuls line up to kiss his ring and receive his blessing. Weird.</div></div>



The GOP selection process is weird. IMO there is not one candidate, maybe with the exception of Ron Paul, who actually says what they think.
Its a bit like a game show for politicians where they tell the audience what they want to hear in order to win.

Q </div></div>

And Ron Paul is as misogynistic as they come.

Talk about a man with no compassion, Paul is completely without conscience as regards any appreciation for economic policies which do not favor the wealthy.

His message is, "You're on your own" regardless of what colossal event might impact people in our country.

As regards women's rights, and personal rights, he's another wannabe dictator.

G.

LWW
10-30-2011, 09:36 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why is anybody even listening to Trump?

Q </div></div>

Yes ... why?

I mean, GREAT GAIA, he doesn't recognize the omnipotence of dear leader!

Soflasnapper
10-30-2011, 11:35 AM
The incredulity is rather based on Trump's proven hucksterism, and the question of how successful really is a man who's been bankrupted three times, including bankrupting a CASINO for God's sake, and exists as a towering business figure mainly via the kindness of his creditors?

Which is to say he's a self-promoting fraud-clown, who has taken almost as many self-contradictory positions as the man nobody respects because of his similar behaviors, Mr. Romney.

Gayle in MD
10-30-2011, 12:58 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The incredulity is rather based on Trump's proven hucksterism, and the question of how successful really is a man who's been bankrupted three times, including bankrupting a CASINO for God's sake, and exists as a towering business figure mainly via the kindness of his creditors?

Which is to say he's a self-promoting fraud-clown, who has taken almost as many self-contradictory positions as the man nobody respects because of his similar behaviors, Mr. Romney. </div></div>

The ridiculous hair, should be enough to "clue in" any reasonable person, lol.

As for Romney, I suppose he's going to run on how to destroy jobs, and steal from employees and stock holders.

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Honestly, this Repig line up is the most ridiculous and absurd bunch of candidates I've ever witnessed in my lifetime.

Go OWS!

G.

LWW
10-31-2011, 04:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The incredulity is rather based on Trump's proven hucksterism, and the question of how successful really is a man who's been bankrupted three times, including bankrupting a CASINO for God's sake, and exists as a towering business figure mainly via the kindness of his creditors?</div></div>

What this shows is how flawed the bankruptcy system in America actually is.

cushioncrawler
10-31-2011, 05:03 AM
What duz u kall a bankrupt bank??
mac.

Gayle in MD
11-02-2011, 02:09 PM
I think neither Cain, nor Perry, has a shot at the nomination,.... and Romney?

Romney is far from conservative, and the radical right knows it...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Romney, supposedly the Republican most electable next November, is a recidivist reviser of his principles who is not only becoming less electable; he might damage GOP chances of capturing the Senate. Republican successes down the ticket will depend on the energies of the Tea Party and other conservatives, who will be deflated by a nominee whose blurry profile in caution communicates only calculated trimming.

Republicans may have found their Michael Dukakis, a technocratic Massachusetts governor who takes his bearings from “data” (although there is precious little to support Romney’s idea that in-state college tuition for children of illegal immigrants is a powerful magnet for such immigrants) and who believes elections should be about (in Dukakis’s words) “competence,” not “ideology.” But what would President Romney competently do when not pondering ethanol subsidies that he forthrightly says should stop sometime before “forever”? Has conservatism come so far, surmounting so many obstacles, to settle, at a moment of economic crisis, for this?

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Even Conservative Journalist George Will, knows that Romney isn't going to bring out the vote.

G.