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Qtec
11-09-2011, 07:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fox's Latest Attack: Cain Accuser Had "Problems At Work," May Be "A Serial Complainer"

November 09, 2011 11:39 am ET by Marcus Feldman

Fox & Friends hosted Peter Doocy this morning to detail the latest developments regarding sexual harassment allegations surrounding Herman Cain. The report touched on the unmasking of the hitherto anonymous accuser, Karen Kraushaar. Doocy stated that Kraushaar had "a history of problems at work." Doocy then described an Associated Press article that reported that Kraushaar had also made a complaint about unfair treatment at a subsequent job, three years after her complaint against Cain. Running underneath the report, on-screen text stated "A Serial Complainer?" </div></div>

Fair and Balanced? You decide. watch (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201111090008?frontpage)


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The question "A serial complainer?" and the accusation that Kraushaar has a "history of problems at work" are not-so-subtle attempts to discredit Kraushaar by highlighting the fact that <u>she had the audacity to file more than one complaint within the span of her entire lifetime.</u>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>This echoes what many on Fox and elsewhere in the right-wing media are doing in response to the Cain allegation: Preemptively attack, dismiss and discredit the accusers while vociferously defending Cain with inflammatory race-baiting.</span> </div></div>

Cain is a serial sexual harasser and a serial liar.


Q

LWW
11-10-2011, 05:23 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fox's Latest Attack: Cain Accuser Had "Problems At Work," May Be "A Serial Complainer"

November 09, 2011 11:39 am ET by Marcus Feldman

Fox & Friends hosted Peter Doocy this morning to detail the latest developments regarding sexual harassment allegations surrounding Herman Cain. The report touched on the unmasking of the hitherto anonymous accuser, Karen Kraushaar. Doocy stated that Kraushaar had "a history of problems at work." Doocy then described an Associated Press article that reported that Kraushaar had also made a complaint about unfair treatment at a subsequent job, three years after her complaint against Cain. Running underneath the report, on-screen text stated "A Serial Complainer?" </div></div>

Fair and Balanced? You decide. watch (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201111090008?frontpage)


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The question "A serial complainer?" and the accusation that Kraushaar has a "history of problems at work" are not-so-subtle attempts to discredit Kraushaar by highlighting the fact that <u>she had the audacity to file more than one complaint within the span of her entire lifetime.</u>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>This echoes what many on Fox and elsewhere in the right-wing media are doing in response to the Cain allegation: Preemptively attack, dismiss and discredit the accusers while vociferously defending Cain with inflammatory race-baiting.</span> </div></div>

Cain is a serial sexual harasser and a serial liar.


Q </div></div>

So in your perverted little reptilian brain ... presenting both sides is an "ATTACK" while you regurgitating racist allegations without ever questioning their veracity isn't?

What a tool you are.

PS ... that wasn't an attack, it was the truth.

Gayle in MD
11-10-2011, 06:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fox's Latest Attack: Cain Accuser Had "Problems At Work," May Be "A Serial Complainer"

November 09, 2011 11:39 am ET by Marcus Feldman

Fox & Friends hosted Peter Doocy this morning to detail the latest developments regarding sexual harassment allegations surrounding Herman Cain. The report touched on the unmasking of the hitherto anonymous accuser, Karen Kraushaar. Doocy stated that Kraushaar had "a history of problems at work." Doocy then described an Associated Press article that reported that Kraushaar had also made a complaint about unfair treatment at a subsequent job, three years after her complaint against Cain. Running underneath the report, on-screen text stated "A Serial Complainer?" </div></div>

Fair and Balanced? You decide. watch (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201111090008?frontpage)


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The question "A serial complainer?" and the accusation that Kraushaar has a "history of problems at work" are not-so-subtle attempts to discredit Kraushaar by highlighting the fact that <u>she had the audacity to file more than one complaint within the span of her entire lifetime.</u>

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>This echoes what many on Fox and elsewhere in the right-wing media are doing in response to the Cain allegation: Preemptively attack, dismiss and discredit the accusers while vociferously defending Cain with inflammatory race-baiting.</span> </div></div>

Cain is a serial sexual harasser and a serial liar.


Q </div></div>

When these women all show up together with their evidence, and their stories, Cain will be done.

Even his 'bruthas from anutha mutha' won't be able to save his lying ass.

Women, the largest voting block, can see right through him.

G.

Soflasnapper
11-10-2011, 03:29 PM
So in your perverted little reptilian brain ... presenting both sides is an "ATTACK" while you regurgitating racist allegations without ever questioning their veracity isn't?

What a tool you are.

PS ... that wasn't an attack, it was the truth.

Her 'problems at work' did not involve multiple allegations of sexual harrassment. Raising it (not 'them,' as it was one other complaint) is a transparent hit job, designed to insinuate she was a lawsuit happy complainer who was generally speaking a problem at all her workplaces.

So unless you've never heard of things that are true, but misleading still, the import of bringing this up should be clear.

Gayle in MD
11-10-2011, 03:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So in your perverted little reptilian brain ... presenting both sides is an "ATTACK" while you regurgitating racist allegations without ever questioning their veracity isn't?

What a tool you are.

PS ... that wasn't an attack, it was the truth.

Her 'problems at work' did not involve multiple allegations of sexual harrassment. Raising it (not 'them,' as it was one other complaint) is a transparent hit job, designed to insinuate she was a lawsuit happy complainer who was generally speaking a problem at all her workplaces.

So unless you've never heard of things that are true, but misleading still, the import of bringing this up should be clear. </div></div>

Well said! Tap, tap, tap.

G.

eg8r
11-10-2011, 04:49 PM
Who knows if she is lawsuit happy or not, but let's say you are looking to fill a position and she applies. In your investigation you find out that she has these two prior instances (one at each job) and you have another equally capable person with no past instances...which would you choose? The one with a proven track record of attracking problems or the one that avoids them?

eg8r

Gayle in MD
11-11-2011, 03:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who knows if she is lawsuit happy or not, but let's say you are looking to fill a position and she applies. In your investigation you find out that she has these two prior instances (one at each job) and you have another equally capable person with no past instances...which would you choose? The one with a proven track record of attracking problems or the one that avoids them?

eg8r </div></div>

That's a misrepresentation of this woman's complete work history.

What kind or work history did Steve Jobs have, before the biggie?

Do you think he would have impressed Human Resources, if they talked with the people he had worked with in his early years.

Do you ever educate yourself on anything before you start spouting off your partisan baloney?

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Qtec
11-11-2011, 06:07 AM
AFAIK, the Cain complaint is the only allegation of sexual harassment she has ever made.
In her other job, the complaint she made was that after a car accident, her boss wouldn't let her work from home and she also complained about a sexually explicit email that was being sent round.

Q

LWW
11-11-2011, 06:33 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Cain <s>is a serial sexual harasser</s> passed a lie detector test and <s>a serial liar</s> his accuser did not.


Q </div></div>

I fixed that for you.

LWW
11-11-2011, 06:40 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gayle in MD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<s>Do you ever</s> I never educate <s>your</s>myself on anything before <s>you</s> I start spouting off <s>your</s> my hyper-partisan baloney?

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I fixed that for you also.

Qtec
11-11-2011, 07:05 AM
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Q

eg8r
11-11-2011, 09:12 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a misrepresentation of this woman's complete work history.
</div></div>Actually I did not misrepresent anything you idiot. I said in a choice between two ladies who are equally capable, one with a track record and one without, who would you choose. I know you cannot be honest here because it would blow you out of the water.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
11-11-2011, 10:29 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AFAIK, the Cain complaint is the only allegation of sexual harassment she has ever made.
In her other job, the complaint she made was that after a car accident, her boss wouldn't let her work from home and she also complained about a sexually explicit email that was being sent round.

Q </div></div>

Yes, and by her boss.

WOW, how could that happen given there are so few men of position who are sexist and misogynistic in the work place. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif They're everywhere. Women know this.

Just imagine how differently these bottle fed righties on here would be reacting to this story, if Cain were a Democratic Candidate, LMAO! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
G.

Gayle in MD
11-11-2011, 10:42 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a misrepresentation of this woman's complete work history.
</div></div>Actually I did not misrepresent anything you idiot. I said in a choice between two ladies who are equally capable, one with a track record and one without, who would you choose. I know you cannot be honest here because it would blow you out of the water.

eg8r </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one with a proven track record of attracking problems or the one that avoids them?

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A total misrepresentation of the known facts which have emerged to date.

It's the equal of what is known as "The Slut Defense" which is exactly how you think, and interestingly, exactly how misogynistic small minded men think.

Women don't seek out men who are sexual predators who will assault and harass them.

Additionally...it's another of your faulty analogies.

Personal appearance, and a pleasant, personable presentation, education history and requirements, and experience requirements are the most important factors when hiring people.

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Additionally, there was a gag order on the settlements, hence, in this case, the subject would never have come up in the first place.</span>

Another irrational post, designed to protect your party line, and launch another insult.

Grow up.

G.

eg8r
11-11-2011, 11:18 AM
Thank you for proving me correct, you absolutely refuse to be honest if the truth proves you are wrong.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
11-11-2011, 11:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Cain <s>is a serial sexual harasser</s> passed a lie detector test and <s>a serial liar</s> his accuser did not.


Q </div></div>

I fixed that for you. </div></div>

Quite wrong, there.

It wasn't a lie detector test. The software manufacturer makes that clear, specifically stating they do not detect lies.

One key remark from the accuser, 'he then forced my head down towards his crotch,' showed no deception, not high risk of stress, but 'happy/excited.'

All the while the 'expert' has the software set to analyze a MALE voice, not a FEMALE voice.

What is the PROBATIVE value of such a test? Isn't it NOTHING AT ALL, as it and anything like this is inadmissible in court?

eg8r
11-11-2011, 11:51 AM
This test means nothing and no one is even paying it any attention. If Cain wants to take a lie detection test he should just do it the right way and post those results.

eg8r

Soflasnapper
11-11-2011, 11:58 AM
The personality cult members of the Cain cult are indeed paying attention to this test, and trumpeting it as entirely exculpatory of their idol, and inculpatory as to this particular accuser, and extrapolating HER alleged failure as proof all the women were lying.

See LWW's posts on these claims. He's paying attention to them, and stating that they have value. He did it just in this thread above.

Gayle in MD
11-11-2011, 12:16 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This test means nothing and no one is even paying it any attention. If Cain wants to take a lie detection test he should just do it the right way and post those results.

eg8r </div></div>

No one, huh? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Speaking for everyone again? Another broad sweeping statement?

G.

eg8r
11-11-2011, 01:28 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The personality cult members of the Cain cult are indeed paying attention to this test, and trumpeting it as entirely exculpatory of their idol,</div></div>Do you honestly think mainstream America really cares about the personality cult members of the Cain cult? Or do you say this due to an overbearing desire to be "right" technically? Sure, that extremely small group is paying attention, the rest of the world is not.

You and I both know that this test means nothing and holds no water.

eg8r

eg8r
11-11-2011, 01:30 PM
You are such a idiot. I make a claim that in no way could be contrary to your belief and you still start a pissing contest? Have you gotten laid yet this year? Your pent up frustration is coming out in full force. There is no way this is just your "time of the month". Maybe you could try one of those voice modulators.

eg8r

Gayle in MD
11-11-2011, 01:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You are such a idiot. I make a claim that in no way could be contrary to your belief and you still start a pissing contest? Have you gotten laid yet this year? Your pent up frustration is coming out in full force. There is no way this is just your "time of the month". Maybe you could try one of those voice modulators.

eg8r </div></div>

Spoken like a true misogynist pig, rude and hateful to the core..

Get help. You really need it.

I'm sure your "Men's Group" your parents and your kids would be proud of your filth.

You are a sick person.

G.

Soflasnapper
11-11-2011, 02:20 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eg8r</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The personality cult members of the Cain cult are indeed paying attention to this test, and trumpeting it as entirely exculpatory of their idol,</div></div>Do you honestly think mainstream America really cares about the personality cult members of the Cain cult? Or do you say this due to an overbearing desire to be "right" technically? Sure, that extremely small group is paying attention, the rest of the world is not.

You and I both know that this test means nothing and holds no water.

eg8r </div></div>

Congratulations on that wisdom, but it is not entirely shared by the right wing GOP primary voters, who are the audience for Cain's apologetics and alibis for the next number of months.

Who DO appear (at least some of them) to be buying this as something it is not-- definitive proof of their loved ones innocence in this and in all accusations of this type.