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LWW
11-24-2011, 06:04 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">QUITMAN, GA (WALB) - 12 former Brooks County officials were indicted for voter fraud. The suspects are accused of illegally helping people vote by absentee ballot.

State officials launched an investigation after an unusually high number of absentee ballots were cast in the July 2010 primary election. "As a result of their grand jury findings 12 individuals were indicted in that particular matter and we will be trying that case in a court of judicial law instead of a court of public opinion so that will be pending this next year," said District Attorney Joe Mulholland.

The defendants include some workers in the voter registrar's office and some school board members. They are Angela Bryant, April Proctor, Brenda Monds, Debra Denard, Lula Smart, Kechia Harrison, Robert Denard, Sandra Cody, Elizabeth Thomas, Linda Troutman, Latashia Head, and Nancy Denard. </div></div>

And the left assures us that this just never happens. (http://www.walb.com/story/16104533/12-indicted-for-voter-fraud)

Soflasnapper
11-24-2011, 11:01 AM
School board members helped fix a PRIMARY vote? Affecting not the general election, then, but the primary election? For the school board?

Not exactly what is claimed, then.

Nor does it actually say the votes were illegal. It says, they illegally helped people vote by absentee ballot, making the illegality the helping, not the voting.

Maybe they just phrased it inelegantly or something, but I don't think we can be confident anyone illegally voted, by this evidence. But hard to say.

LWW
11-24-2011, 01:21 PM
Translated:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I MUST DEFEND THE PARTY ...</div></div>

Soflasnapper
11-24-2011, 05:33 PM
There is no party affiliation mentioned in this reporting.

There is no claim that the people casting those absentee ballots were ineligible voters, or that the ballots were in any way falsified.

Apparently, these people somehow got persons who perhaps should have voted normally to vote absentee. That may be some kind of crime, but it doesn't seem to be a crime that ineligible persons got votes cast and counted.

You have jumped to any number of unfounded conclusions here. Congrats on your new record!

LWW
11-24-2011, 06:41 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no party affiliation mentioned in this reporting.</div></div>

That is how you tell they were demokrooks.

Had they been republicans, PMSNBC would be bleating that fact every 15 minutes for the next 20 years.

LWW
11-24-2011, 06:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Apparently, these people somehow got persons who perhaps should have voted normally to vote absentee</div></div>

Incorrect. They got people who COULD have voted to vote absentee without that person requesting a ballot.

The same thing happened here in Ohio over the public union vote ... state employees were given absentee ballots filled out, needing only a signature, with their paychecks.

Soflasnapper
11-25-2011, 11:20 AM
Incorrect. They got people who COULD have voted to vote absentee without that person requesting a ballot.


You know that from this report, how? It is entirely vague on each and every detail. Including the party affiliations of these alleged perps.

A discussion I've seen on this says there was no other information reported anywhere to that time (yesterday), and that all reports were based on the one to which you've linked. Lacking any details, as I mention.

Gayle in MD
11-29-2011, 04:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Incorrect. They got people who COULD have voted to vote absentee without that person requesting a ballot.


You know that from this report, how? It is entirely vague on each and every detail. Including the party affiliations of these alleged perps.

A discussion I've seen on this says there was no other information reported anywhere to that time (yesterday), and that all reports were based on the one to which you've linked. Lacking any details, as I mention. </div></div>

Like everything else he posts.....another BS pile of flushable Rw BS.

IIRC, the Repiglican guy who wrote the book, "How to Throw An election" after he got out of jail, explained all about how to throw an election...lol

Ohio, correct? And Wasn't Blackwell involved?

I suppose this BS story is meant to minimize what we already know about Ohio.

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G.

LWW
11-29-2011, 05:00 PM
You two wouldn't recognize the truth about the demokrooks if someone nailed it to a board and whacked you across the arse with it.

Back in the land of reality:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Law enforcement officials have charged 12 people with using absentee ballots to skew an election in Georgia.

ďAs a result of their grand jury findings, 12 individuals were indicted in that particular matter and we will be trying that case in a court of judicial law instead of a court of public opinion,Ē District Attorney Joe Mulholland told the local TV station, WALB.

The charges followed a bitter November 2010 school board election in Brooks County in which the final tally was changed by an unusually large wave of absentee ballots.

During the election, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>1,060 absentee votes were cast out of the 1,403 ballots</span> mailed out to people who requested them, according to a July 2010 report by WCTV.

Thatís far higher than nearby Thomas County, which had 119 absentee votes cast out of 202 requests, and Lowndes County, which had 169 absentee votes cast out of 439 requests, said WCTVís report.

<span style="color: #3366FF"><u><span style='font-size: 26pt'>The 12 people charged are aligned with the Democratic Party.</span></u></span> ...

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Since President Barack Obamaís election, officials at the Department of Justice have downplayed complaints about ballot fraud.</span>

Under former President George W. Bush, the department had aggressively pursued numerous cases. In 2007, for example, Ike Brown, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>the chairman of the Democratic Party in Noxubee County, Miss., was investigated for interfering with white votersí access to the ballot box.</span>

State investigations and convictions continue despite the DOJís current lack of interest.

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>In April, Lessadolla Sowers was convicted by a court in Tunica County, Miss., on 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots. Sowers was a member of the local National Associated for the Advancement of Colored Peopleís executive committee.</span></div></div>

El Dub was right ... they were demokrooks and they were cheating on absentee ballots. (http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/24/12-charged-with-voter-fraud-in-georgia-election/)

Next bravo sierra excuse?

Soflasnapper
11-29-2011, 09:09 PM
This is a pretty interesting story, actually.

The whole story doesn't really track with the spin being put on it however.

The election in question was the PRIMARY election for a LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD. Guess what? ALL THE CANDIDATES RAN ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET. How so? Well, that's how primaries work, after all. Primaries are partisan affairs, mainly, except the few states that let anyone vote in any primary for whichever party. There are not many such states, and Georgia is not among those few. Only Democrats may vote in a Democratic Party primary, which this school board primary was.

So, this was not about GOP v Democrat, but Democrat v Democrat, and especially white incumbents on the school board in a school district that is 67% black populated, while being in a predominantly white county. (One black reporter/columnist in the local media calls the whites in question here the Dixiecrats.)

It would appear then that this is a case of the local people rising up to purge out the corrupt or incompetent school board incumbents, as we all may advocate for corrupt or incompetent incumbents wherever they may be.

Well, two of the white incumbent school board members lost in the primary, and indeed, because of the absentee ballot vote. One, the president of the school board, was deputy in the local DA's office, and for reasons of appearance of impropriety, the local DA will not prosecute, which is why there is an independent counsel appointed to handle this indictment and trial after GBI was brought in.

Now Georgia law forbids anyone who has participated in a primary and lost from reappearing on the general election ballot as a write-in candidate for that office. The two who were defeated decided that law should be gone around, and they hatched a plan to SWITCH THE BOARD SEATS THEY WERE SEEKING for the general. This caused a lawsuit, since it appears that those who couldn't compete were cheating (where have I heard that phrase before??? LOL!), and violating the law. The local Dixiecrat establishment court winked at the law and decided that this abuse was a-okay.

So they got to run a SECOND TIME for the election they'd already been defeated for. AND THEY LOST AGAIN, without the alleged taint of absentee ballots swinging the difference.

Here's how one supportive report of those indicted relates the story:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A group of Black people made history in Brooks County during the 2010 elections. Brooks County is a predominantly white county with a majority Black school district In South Georgia; Quitman is its major city.

Senators Robert Brown and Vincent Fort are working with Representatives Tyrone Brooks and David Lucas to keep the history-makers out of jail.

After years of frustration with the failure of the school system to deliver quality services to its predominantly Black students, Dr. Nancy Dennard and other citizens mobilized a massive voter turnout and elected a majority Black school board.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>The incumbents took extraordinary steps to hold their positions. "They spent over $100,000 and ran twice. We spent around $2500 and beat them both times," Dr. Dennard said.</span>

Prior to 2010, several attempts were made to win school board seats in Brooks County. All fell within close margins of victory, "due to questionable machine counts," according to Dr. Dennard.

Black citizens in Brooks County did not trust voting machines so organizers used the early voting period to push absentee balloting. The candidates of their choice won the 2010 General Primary. In an unusual move, the losers qualified to run as write-in candidates in the General Election.

"We contacted the Secretary of State, united States Department of Justice and went to the Superior Court to block their attempts to have two bites at the apple," Dr. Dennard said. Unfortunately, they received typical South Georgia justice and the Court held that allowing the losers to run twice "is held in substantial compliance with the law..."

The determined activists were able to win again in the November elections. This angered the local establishment and the newly elected officials and some of their allies, known as the Quitman 10, were arrested on December 21, 2010, and charged with illegal possession of an absentee ballot and voter fraud

This injustice came to the attention of State Senator Robert Brown, Senate Democratic Leader and Servant Leader of the October 16th Movement. In order to bring attention to and honor their courageous efforts, the October 16th Movement honored the Quitman 10 at the First Annual Rural Black Family Day at the state capitol on February 22, 2011.

Tyrone Brooks has thrown the full support of the Georgia Association of Black Elected Officials (GABEO) behind the movement to bring justice to Brooks County. Representative Brooks said. "this case reminds me of the struggle in Aliceville, Pickens County Alabama in 1982." Two Black women had been accused of similar voting violations. "We marched to Washington, DC and used this case to persuade Ronald Reagan of the need to renew the Voting Rights Act of 1965," Brooks said. </div></div>

Now I will state that Georgia election law is a bit funny with regard to absentee ballots.

Here's the Georgia Board of Elections page (http://www.sos.ga.gov/elections/elections/candidate_information/Absentee%20Voting%20%20A%20Guide%20for%20Registere d%20Voters.pdf) on absentee voting rules.

Items of interest:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Absentee Voting By Mail

Any voter registered in Georgia can vote absentee by mail. Just complete the application found
in the back of this guide.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does someone have to sign my application if they are only assisting me?

The person giving assistance to the disabled or illiterate voter in preparing the ballot must sign
the oath printed on the same envelope as the oath to be signed by the voter. In addition, no
person may assist more than ten such voters in any election in which there is no federal candidate
on the ballot. If a federal candidate appears on a ballot, a person can assist an unlimited number
of voters in that election.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>May an absentee application that is pre-printed or filled out in advance by a third party be
accepted if signed by the elector?
</span>
There is no prohibition against a third party assisting in the completion of the application
provided that the voter personally signs the application, affirming that the information is true and
correct. </div></div>

LWW
11-30-2011, 03:51 AM
You will defend anything, no matter how damaging to the republic, so long as it has the Holy (D) blessing affixed.

You should be ashamed.

LWW
11-30-2011, 04:00 AM
Yep ... it's quite often that teams spend a first round pick on someone they think can't play. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif

Qtec
11-30-2011, 04:37 AM
Sorry, but your pathetic drive-by responses hold no weight.

You have lost all credibility. You just proved it again.

Q