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LWW
11-28-2011, 04:49 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Literal beacons of the "green" energy movement, giant wind turbines have been one of the renewable energy sources of choice for <span style='font-size: 11pt'>the US government, which has spent billions of taxpayer dollars subsidizing their construction and use across the country. But high maintenance costs, high rates of failure, and fluctuating weather conditions that affect energy production render wind turbines expensive and inefficient, which is why more than 14,000 of them have since been abandoned.</span>

Before government subsidies for the giant metals were cut or eliminated in many areas, wind farms were an energy boom business. But in the post-tax subsidy era, <span style='font-size: 11pt'>the costs of maintaining and operating wind turbines far outweighs the minimal power they generate in many areas, which has left a patchwork of wind turbine graveyards in many of the most popular wind farming areas of the US.</span>

"Thousands of abandoned wind turbines littered the landscape of wind energy's California 'big three' locations which include Altamont Pass, Tehachapin and San Gorgonio, considered among the world's best wind sites," writes Andrew Walden of the American Thinker. <span style='font-size: 11pt'>"In the best wind spots on earth, over 14,000 turbines were simply abandoned. Spinning, post-industrial junk which generates nothing but bird kills."</span>

Walden speaks, of course, about the birds, bats, and other air creatures that routinely get tangled in and killed by wind turbine propellers. And as far as the "post-industrial junk" language, well, if it costs too much to run the machines in the first place, then it definitely costs too much to uproot and remove them post-construction.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>This whole wind energy mess just further illustrates how the American people have been played by their elected officials who bought into the "global warming" hysteria that spawned the push for wind energy in the first place. And now that the renewable energy tax subsidies are gradually coming to an end in some places, the true financial and economic viability, or lack of wind energy, is on display for the world to see.

"It is all about the tax subsidies," writes Don Surber of the Charleston Daily Mail. "The blades churn until the money runs out. If an honest history is written about the turn of the 21st century, it will include a large, harsh chapter on how fears about global warming were overplayed for profit by corporations."</span></div></div>

The left was PUNK'D! (http://www.naturalnews.com/034234_wind_turbines_abandoned.html)

Again.

Soflasnapper
11-28-2011, 01:30 PM
Read through the 60 odd comments for several excellent rebuttal points to this theory.

The installed base of these electricity-generating wind turbines dates back to the early '80s. These early designs were not as robust or efficient as the next several generations, and they didn't age well.

It is not surprising to find that 30 years or more after installation, well beyond their useful life expectancy, they do not work any longer.

China does not particularly drink from the enviro koolaid, and more the opposite, yet they have made a very substantial investment in these things for their own current and future energy needs. Not just as export earners by stupid and tricked western countries' purchase of the technology, but installed on their own soil.

The cost competitiveness of these systems is relative to the cost of what else can generate electricity. Someone claimed on the comments thread that these were already more economical than coal, but I cannot say I know that as a fact.

But here's a question for you: in 10 years, do you expect the price of oil to be more or less than $150 a barrel?

LWW
11-29-2011, 05:30 PM
Much less ... as long as we can keep the Goremon's at bay.

The US does not lack the ability to be energy independent ... it lacks the intelligence to be.

Soflasnapper
11-29-2011, 06:33 PM
Much less?

Maybe if India and China are nuked and thereby end their 5% to 8% annual increased demand for oil.

If those rates of increased demand continue, oil will become very much more expensive.

BTW, if the US became entirely free of the need for oil importing, that would not give us cheap oil, since oil is priced globally. Unless you want to return to a regulated price for oil, and a differential between domestic and international oil prices imposed by law, not the marketplace.

We used to have that kind of two-price oil price regime here, pre-Reagan. Carter ended it by getting passed a multi-year phase out, and Reagan accelerated that phase out by a couple of years.

I notice you ducked the obvious problem with the linked piece, that 30 year old machinery ends up broken. How many AMC Pacers or Gremlins, or LeBarons or Ford Crown Victorias or first-generation Ford Tauruses do we see on the road these days?

cushioncrawler
11-29-2011, 07:07 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Couch123/Europe2008/HRLM_boatwindmill.jpg

cushioncrawler
11-29-2011, 07:08 PM
One lateral thinker realized that it might be possible to power a boat uzing nothing but windpower.
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/exfinnsailor/Windmill-Sailboat.jpg

cushioncrawler
11-29-2011, 07:12 PM
The little one iz for charging the cell-phone.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/adam_h_photos/IMG_0089-Copy.jpg

cushioncrawler
11-29-2011, 07:16 PM
Humans might one day be genetikally modifyd to hav inbuilt wind generators.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb123/BigTonyMil/Windmill.jpg

cushioncrawler
11-29-2011, 07:51 PM
Who needs batterys.
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt217/bikervix75/P1010238.jpg

cushioncrawler
11-29-2011, 07:55 PM
The next generation.
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg104/njspitze/green-hatfan.jpg

Soflasnapper
11-29-2011, 09:25 PM
You're killing me with this commentary! LOL!

You'll notice that the genetically modified human windmill is already in disrepair. Silly genetically modified humans! Punked again by the greens, eh?

cushioncrawler
11-29-2011, 10:57 PM
If he had a photo voltaic panel one end and that windgenerator the other he would probly be independant.
But thems eye-glasses are unique.
mac.