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LWW
12-06-2011, 05:04 AM
Joe Biden tells Al Q where the VPOTUS's own 'secret bunker' is located, as well as where the entrance is.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Vice President Joe Biden, well-known for his verbal gaffes, may have finally outdone himself, divulging potentially classified information meant to save the life of a sitting vice president.

According to a report, while recently attending the Gridiron Club dinner in Washington, an annual event where powerful politicians and media elite get a chance to cozy up to one another, Biden told his dinnermates about the existence of a secret bunker under the old U.S. Naval Observatory, which is now the home of the vice president.

The bunker is believed to be the secure, undisclosed location former Vice President Dick Cheney remained under protection in secret after the 9/11 attacks.

Eleanor Clift, Newsweek magazine's Washington contributing editor, said Biden revealed the location while filling in for President Obama at the dinner, who, along with Grover Cleveland, is the only president to skip the gathering.
According to Clift's report on the Newsweek blog, Biden "said a young naval officer giving him a tour of the residence showed him the hideaway, which is behind a massive steel door secured by an elaborate lock with a narrow connecting hallway lined with shelves filled with communications equipment."</div></div>

What a moron! (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/18/biden-reveals-location-secret-vp-bunker/)

Soflasnapper
12-06-2011, 12:18 PM
It is pretty funny to see a story discredited 2 years and 7 months ago resurface.

And it is pretty stupid to imagine it will now catch fire and really heat up as an issue some 2 years and 7 months later.

But it is very normal to see some posters attempt to hide how stale their material is, by omitting the age of this charge (not to mention, the on-the-record refutation).

It is also fascinating to see how Fox's site formatting enables such time-displacement trickery. Amazingly, all the surrounding stories, video clips, ads, etc., are from today's news and current events. If you don't carefully peruse the very small dateline at the beginning of the story, you'd have little reason to notice this was getting close to a 3 year old story by now.

One clue that was mentioned, the 'last' gaffe for Veep Biden was telling people not to travel when the flu epidemic was threatening. Anyone following the Veep much knows that the 'don't travel in public accommodations' gaffe was a long time ago, and that he's had many more gaffes between then and now.

Gayle in MD
12-06-2011, 01:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is pretty funny to see a story discredited 2 years and 7 months ago resurface.

And it is pretty stupid to imagine it will now catch fire and really heat up as an issue some 2 years and 7 months later.

But it is very normal to see some posters attempt to hide how stale their material is, by omitting the age of this charge (not to mention, the on-the-record refutation).

It is also fascinating to see how Fox's site formatting enables such time-displacement trickery. Amazingly, all the surrounding stories, video clips, ads, etc., are from today's news and current events. If you don't carefully peruse the very small dateline at the beginning of the story, you'd have little reason to notice this was getting close to a 3 year old story by now.

One clue that was mentioned, the 'last' gaffe for Veep Biden was telling people not to travel when the flu epidemic was threatening. Anyone following the Veep much knows that the 'don't travel in public accommodations' gaffe was a long time ago, and that he's had many more gaffes between then and now. </div></div>

That's a used car salesman for ya!

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LWW
12-06-2011, 02:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is pretty funny to see a story discredited 2 years and 7 months ago resurface.

And it is pretty stupid to imagine it will now catch fire and really heat up as an issue some 2 years and 7 months later.

But it is very normal to see some posters attempt to hide how stale their material is, by omitting the age of this charge (not to mention, the on-the-record refutation).

It is also fascinating to see how Fox's site formatting enables such time-displacement trickery. Amazingly, all the surrounding stories, video clips, ads, etc., are from today's news and current events. If you don't carefully peruse the very small dateline at the beginning of the story, you'd have little reason to notice this was getting close to a 3 year old story by now.

One clue that was mentioned, the 'last' gaffe for Veep Biden was telling people not to travel when the flu epidemic was threatening. Anyone following the Veep much knows that the 'don't travel in public accommodations' gaffe was a long time ago, and that he's had many more gaffes between then and now. </div></div>

And there, in a nutshell, is your problem ... Biden says it didn't happen and you parrot it as if it came from the almighty's lips,

Soflasnapper
12-06-2011, 06:59 PM
And there, in a nutshell, is your problem ... Biden says it didn't happen and you parrot it as if it came from the almighty's lips,

False.

Biden didn't deny he said something at that dinner. He's saying, or his spokesperson is saying, that the interpretation of what he was talking about was mistaken.

So the story was clearly disputed. Lacking additional push thereafter, as the story was then apparently dropped for lack of reason to show the dispute was false, the dispute appears to have discredited the original report as mistaken.

Given the lack of clear evidence that the then-final-as-corrected story was mistaken (the correction of the VP's office showing that correction), the call on the field stands.

You need SOMETHING to say the original reporting was correct nonetheless, even though its error was sufficiently explained by Biden's spokesman. That is lacking, so you have nothing upon which to base your claims that Clift's INTERPRETATION was accurate, not even a general view that she is an accurate reporter.