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Soflasnapper
12-29-2011, 03:15 PM
Sez Bill Kristol:

...[I]t is a moment, as you prepare to cast your vote, for others to reflect on whether they don’t owe it to their country to step forward. As this is no time for voters to choose fecklessly, it is no time for leaders to duck responsibility. Those who have stood aside — and who now may have concluded, as they may not have when they announced their original decision, that the current field is lacking — will surely hear the words of Thomas Paine echoing down the centuries: <span style='font-size: 14pt'>“The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.”</span> Now is not a time for leaders to engage in clever calculations of the odds of success, or to succumb to concerns about how they will look if they enter the fray and fall short. <span style='font-size: 14pt'>Now is a time to come to the aid of our country.</span>

Quoted in Politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2011/12/kristol-not-going-gently-108746.html)

cushioncrawler
12-29-2011, 03:50 PM
Fear no more. Krappynomicysts everywhere are lining up to kum to the aid of their country -- in this krisis krappynomicysts will not shrink from the service of their country.

They stand by it now -- with tears welling -- knowing that they deserve the love and thanx of man and woman.

The situation iz very simple -- no klever kalkulations needed -- the odds of success are a certainty -- krappynomicysts hav never failed before and they will not fail now (never mind that they hav never not-failed neither).

Krappynomicysts will not succumb to concerns about how they will look if they fall short -- krappynomicysts will allways look good, sound good, smell good, and they will allways feel good, no matter what.

I karnt wait.
mac.

eg8r
12-29-2011, 09:32 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now is not a time for leaders to engage in clever calculations of the odds of success, or to succumb to concerns about how they will look if they enter the fray and fall short. Now is a time to come to the aid of our country.
</div></div>I tend to agree which is why I disagree with you. Instead of calling Obama's stump speeches "sly misdirections" I feel we should stand united and demand Obama to face responsibility and admit those speeches as failures. Did he lie, maybe or maybe not, who knows what his true intentions were. However, since you are too yellow-bellied to admit them to be lies we will just call them failures.

eg8r

LWW
12-30-2011, 02:29 AM
Leftists follow the teachings of former godking Billy Jeff Clinton ... they were only lies if he intended to keep the promises when he made them, if he didn't intend to keep them when he made them they weren't lies.

In leftist doublethink ... whatever "TRUTH" the party requires of it's sheeple, that is the "TRUTH" they will believe.

Soflasnapper
12-30-2011, 01:32 PM
Ok, a new record for titanically stupid remarks has now just been set-- congratulations on breaking your own prior multiple-time record!!!

But let's play along for a bit, and see how ridiculous you are willing to make yourself look to the objective viewer.

Tell me, when did the leftists (TM) get the deal sealed as to following their 'former godking?'

Do you think it was when they found out his support for right to work laws? Maybe when his support for the death penalty saw him return during his presidential campaign to preside over the execution of the brain damaged Billy Ray Rector? Or perhaps when he pushed the Reagan-authored idea of NAFTA through a reluctant Democratic-majority controlled Congress against fervent organized labor opposition and against the vote of most of the Democrats in the Congress?

Maybe it was when he declared the era of big government was over? Or when he signed welfare reform into law?

Please tell us, did the leftists forsake Jerry Brown in that primary season to vote for Clinton? Did the leftists Clinton acolytes swarm to the missus over Obama, or the reverse?

Are you actually saying that leftists are as amnesiac as you when it comes to knowing that Clinton was a center-right conservative Democrat?

cushioncrawler
12-30-2011, 03:19 PM
The fundamentals of the usofa constitution are sound.
mac.

LWW
12-31-2011, 02:35 AM
When he was crowned with the golden (D).

LWW
12-31-2011, 02:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cushioncrawler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The fundamentals of the usofa constitution are sound.
mac. </div></div>

Yes they are.

Soflasnapper
01-01-2012, 02:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When he was crowned with the golden (D). </div></div>

What nonsense!

Was the left happy with LBJ, a far more liberal leaning Democrat and author of far more left-pleasing policies than was Clinton, or did they actually support a half-dozen other politicians instead of him, when they weren't spurning the political process to take to the streets?

Was the left happy with Carter, and massively come out to vote for him along with all the entire Democratic constituencies, or did they favor the Kennedy primary challenge, sit on their hands and pocket books, and refuse to come out for him, as his poor showing v. Reagan showed?

In your individual world where words mean whatever you think they mean, somewhere along the line you have utterly mistaken the mainstream Democrats for leftists and vice versa, and therefore hysterically view presidents like Carter and Clinton, who were pretty much hated by the left, as instead the idols, or in your words, GODKINGS (!!?!?!?!!!) OF THE LEFT????

Freaking idiotic. And untrue, to be clear.

Check out the late Christopher Hitchins' writings on Clinton to see how 'the left (TM)' viewed his presidency and personal character. And then tell me how much he viewed Clinton so favorably as to idolize him as a godking, when all he did was trash him 24/7.

Lastly, consider the 2000 election, and the Nader voters. The Nader voters were convinced that there was no difference between the triangulating Clinton/Gore style and the GOP policies, and so did not pull the 'D' lever, going third party/independent instead. Were the Nader voters not of the left? Or do you think they were moderates in the middle, or perhaps of the right? Specifically, the 100,000 who pulled the lever for Nader in Florida, who swung this state, and therefore the Electoral College, and therefore the country to W. Don't you admit they were on the left? And had this negative attitude about Gore based on their hostility to Clinton, for the reason that he was not liberal enough?

LWW
01-02-2012, 02:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When he was crowned with the golden (D). </div></div>

What nonsense!

Was the left happy with LBJ, a far more liberal leaning Democrat and author of far more left-pleasing policies than was Clinton, or did they actually support a half-dozen other politicians instead of him, when they weren't spurning the political process to take to the streets? </div></div>

Actually ... they loved him. Still do. And ... the idea that LBJ was to the left of Obama is ridiculous. The left's only opposition to him was that he wasn't moonbat crazy enough to sign a surrender to a third world country.

In addition ... LBJ had the character to do the right thing for the country and not run in 1968.

The only abdications in high places of support for LBJ was because they knew he couldn't win ... not any real policy dispute.

LWW
01-02-2012, 02:56 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When he was crowned with the golden (D). </div></div>

Was the left happy with Carter, and massively come out to vote for him along with all the entire Democratic constituencies, or did they favor the Kennedy primary challenge, sit on their hands and pocket books, and refuse to come out for him, as his poor showing v. Reagan showed?</div></div>

They nominated him twice didn't they. They still swoon at the mention of his name ... even though he has proven himself to be nothing more than a mouthpiece for thugocracy around the world.

Also Jimmuh Cahtuh received 40,831,881 votes in 1976 and 35,480,115 votes in 1980 ... so it wasn't that the dembot base abandoned him, nor was it low voter turnout because the vote total was almost 10% higher in 1980.

No, what doomed Jimmuh Cahtuh was that he had only his moonbat crazy left base behind him.
JUMPING BUTTERBALLS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1976)

LWW
01-02-2012, 03:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Soflasnapper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In your individual world where words mean whatever you think they mean, somewhere along the line you have utterly mistaken the mainstream Democrats for leftists and vice versa, and therefore hysterically view presidents like Carter and Clinton, who were pretty much hated by the left, as instead the idols, or in your words, GODKINGS (!!?!?!?!!!) OF THE LEFT????</div></div>

My apologies that I haven't dumbed it down to your level well enough.

I have been quite clear that the "NUTTY 25%" is the hardcore left that will always vote for the candidate that is the farthest left, the most anti capitalist, the most anti liberty, the most anti USA ... and that 90%+ of them will vote for the candidate bearing the golden (D) with the balance voting for such lunatics as Nader and McKinney.

The "rank and file" democrat used to be people who had no interest in politics and would vote (D) because their unior or the TV talking heads told them to.

Whenever they actually are forced to become educated in politics ... they abandon the demokrooks in massive numbers.

In the future I will try to explain these things in simpler terms.