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Qtec
01-08-2012, 05:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gingrich Calls Out Media's Liberal Bias on Gay Rights

During Saturday's GOP presidential debate in New Hampshire hosted by ABC, after two of the moderators - World News anchor Diane Sawyer and local ABC affiliate anchor Josh McElveen - had devoted six minutes to a discussion of what the candidates would say to a gay couple "sitting in their living rooms" about same-sex marriage and adoption, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich highlighted the double standard in the media's left-leaning sympathy toward gay rights issues but lack of concern about anti-Christian "bigotry" from the left. Gingrich complained: (Video below)

"I just want to raise, since we just spent this much time on these issues, I just want to raise a point about the news media bias. You don't hear the opposite question asked. <u>Should the Catholic Church be forced to close its adoption services in Massachusetts because it won't accept gay couples? Which is exactly what the state has done.</u>

Should the Catholic Church be <u>driven out</u> of providing charitable services in the District of Columbia because it won't give in to secular bigotry? Should the Catholic Church find itself discriminated against by the Obama administration in a key delivery of services because of the bias and the bigotry of the administration? The bigotry question goes both ways, and there's a lot more anti-Christian bigotry today than there is concerning the other side, and none of it gets covered by the liberal media."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmou...s#ixzz1iuUir6cq (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2012/01/07/gingrich-calls-out-medias-liberal-bias-gay-rights#ixzz1iuUir6cq)


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As usual, Newt is lying.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Bishops close adoption services over new rule on gay parents

ROMAN CATHOLIC bishops in Illinois have closed most of their church’s adoption and foster care services <u>rather than comply with a new requirement that says they must consider same-sex couples as potential parents if they want to receive state money.</u>

The charities have served for more than 40 years as a major link in the state’s social service network for poor and neglected children. Catholic Charities is a network whose aim is “to provide service to people in need, to advocate for justice in social structures, and to call the entire church and other people of good will to do the same”. The network is the second-largest social service provider in the United States, surpassed only by the federal government.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>The Illinois bishops have followed colleagues in Washington DC and in Massachusetts who also jettisoned their adoption services <u>rather than comply with non-discrimination laws.</u></span> </div></div>

The Govt did not shut them down, the Bishops did.


That's Newt and NewsBusters for you.

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cushioncrawler
01-08-2012, 08:46 PM
The Roman Kathlick Church shood be driven out for sure -- Stalin had the right idea and killded most of the Bishops -- but a few got away and bred up again -- pity.
Jo did hav hiz good points.
mac.

LWW
01-09-2012, 04:09 AM
So your "PROOF" that Newt is lying consists of proof that he told the truth?

Qtec
01-11-2012, 06:47 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LWW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So your "PROOF" that Newt is lying consists of proof that he told the truth? </div></div>


2006......during the Bush regime....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">''In a stunning turn of events, Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley and leaders of Catholic Charities of Boston <span style='font-size: 14pt'>announced yesterday that the agency will end its adoption work, deciding to abandon its founding mission, rather than comply with state law requiring that gays be allowed to adopt children.</span>

''The Rev. J. Bryan Hehir, president of Catholic Charities of Boston, and Jeffrey Kaneb, chairman of the board, said that after much reflection and analysis, they could not reconcile church teaching that placement of children in gay homes is "immoral" with Massachusetts law prohibiting discrimination against gays...

''Catholic Charities of Boston began in 1903 as an adoption agency... Catholic Charities is widely respected among adoption providers and has handled more adoptions of foster children than any other private agency in the state...

''Almost immediately after the announcement, Governor Mitt Romney, who was in Tennessee speaking to a Republican group, issued a statement saying he would file legislation to exempt religious organizations that provide adoption services from the state's antidiscrimination laws.

'' "I ask the Legislature to work with me on a bill that I will file to ensure that religious institutions are able to participate in the important work of adoption in a way that always respects and never forces them to compromise their firmly held beliefs," Romney said.

''Lawmakers have said that Romney's bill has little chance of passage...

''On Feb. 28, the four bishops announced a plan to seek an exemption from the antidiscrimination laws... That day, Hehir and O'Malley met with Romney in his State House office to make their case for an exemption, but Romney said he lacked the authority to do so. Hehir and O'Malley left the State House feeling that nothing could be done soon for their cause. The bishops had considered launching a court challenge, but Hehir said he and O'Malley realized it would cost "too much time and energy" -- without any certainty of victory.

'' "It became clear our options were narrow," Hehir said...

''Some board members said another concern was the potential impact on financing. The United Way of Massachusetts Bay, which provided $1.2 million to Catholic Charities last year and is the largest private funder of the agency, planned to review its funding if the agency discriminated against gays and lesbians in its adoption work.

''By late last week, Hehir said, it became clear that the simplest approach would be to withdraw from adoption services altogether.''

Boston Globe - Catholic Charities stuns state, ends adoptions - March 11, 2006


''Calling it a matter of "religious freedom," Governor Mitt Romney said yesterday that he plans to file a bill that would exempt religious organizations from the state's antidiscrimination laws to permit Catholic Charities and other religious groups to refuse to provide adoption services when doing so violates their faith.

''The proposal was immediately denounced by top Democrats... </div></div>

Before that.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boston Catholic Charities Board Members Resign over Church Defence of Children


BOSTON, February 27, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Seven members of the board of Catholic Charities of Boston have resigned in “outrage” over the Catholic Church’s opposition to homosexual adoption. The Massachusetts bishops are in the midst of a legal battle to have the Catholic Church exempted on grounds of religious freedom from the state law that says homosexuals must be allowed to adopt children.

In a unanimous vote in December, the 42-member board of the Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Boston refused to accede to the request by Archbishop Sean O’Malley and the Catholic Conference of Massachusetts to cease including homosexual partners as adoptive parents.

President of Catholic Charities in Boston, Rev. Brian H. Hehir, a prominent academic and social liberal, said at the time that the board’s decision to continue placing children with homosexual partners was taken in order to allow Catholic Charities to continue, within the state law, to find loving, normal families for needy children.

“If we could design the system ourselves, we would not participate in adoptions to gay couples, but we can’t,” said Hehir. “We have to balance various goods.” The Catholic Church, however, has repeatedly made it clear that there is no “good” to be found in either allowing children to be placed with homosexual partners, or in lending legitimacy to the homosexual “lifestyle.” A document from the Vatican said plainly that homosexual adoption is a form of child abuse.

Now, however, the board is being more straightforward about its dedication to the homosexual agenda. Seven members of the board are resigning because, they say, the Massachusetts bishops’ opposition to homosexual adoptions, “threatens the very essence of our Christian mission.” </div></div> link (http://aboutmittromney.com/gay_adoption.htm)

link (http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2006/mar/06030206)


the whole story (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/10/1053531/-13-Children:-Putting-an-End-to-a-Right-Wing,-Anti-Gay-Meme)

Newt is a joke. So are you.




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Qtec
01-11-2012, 07:11 AM
Fox's Tantaros: The Obama Administration Has Been "Beating Up On Catholics For A Long Time" <span style="color: #990000">Yeah, since 2006!</span>
January 10, 2012 11:28 am ET

From the January 9 edition of Fox News' Happening Now:

link (http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201201100009)

Q.........hysterical BS

LWW
01-11-2012, 07:40 AM
And?

Qtec
01-12-2012, 08:43 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley and leaders of Catholic Charities of Boston announced yesterday that the agency will end its adoption work,</div></div>

What don't you understand?

Obama never shut down anything in 2006.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BOSTON, February 27, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Seven members of the board of Catholic Charities of Boston have resigned in “outrage” over <span style='font-size: 14pt'>the Catholic Church’s opposition to homosexual adoption.</span> The Massachusetts bishops are in the midst of a legal battle to have the Catholic Church exempted on grounds of religious freedom from the state law that says homosexuals must be allowed to adopt children.

<span style='font-size: 14pt'>In a unanimous vote in December, the 42-member board of the Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Boston refused to accede to the request by Archbishop Sean O’Malley and the Catholic Conference of Massachusetts to cease including homosexual partners as adoptive parents.</span> </div></div>

The Church shut it down.



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Qtec
01-13-2012, 04:32 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich on Wednesday doubled down on his assertion that "anti-Christian bigotry" was on the rise in the United States.

During a debate in New Hampshire on Saturday, the former House Speaker had blasted debate moderators for being unfair to Christians after they asked several questions about gay rights.

Apparently sensing some momentum after the debate, Gingrich seems to have made the remarks part of his stump speech.

"We had a debate the other night and folks were going on and on and on in the media, basically about gay rights," the candidate told a crowd in Rock Hill, South Carolina Wednesday morning. "So after I listened to all this baloney for a while, I just broken in a said, look, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>the challenge we have is anti-Christian bigotry that has forced the Catholic Church to close its adoption service in Massachusetts</span> because it actually wanted to follow the tenets of Christianity."

"If I am your president, if you will help me win this election, we will not tolerate a speech dictatorship in this country against Christianity!" </div></div>

LIE.

link (http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/gingrich-warns-speech-dictatorship-country-a)

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LWW
01-13-2012, 05:09 AM
You are aware that you are making Newt's point?

staycygills
01-13-2012, 06:28 AM
Strange I really wonder about this..

staycygills
01-13-2012, 06:29 AM
Strange I really wonder about this..

eg8r
01-13-2012, 09:05 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich on Wednesday doubled down on his assertion that "anti-Christian bigotry" was on the rise in the United States.
</div></div>I don't disagree at all. Just look at all the anti-Christian hoopla that happens when you mention Tim Tebow?

eg8r

Qtec
01-13-2012, 08:13 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just look at all the anti-Christian hoopla that happens when you mention Tim Tebow? </div></div>

Nah. It might be anti-Tebow hoopla but not anti-Christian.

Imagine the outcry if an Islamic player got down on his knees and prayed!

Q

http://www.islamtimes.org/images/docs/000021/n00021501-b.jpg

eg8r
01-16-2012, 03:20 AM
There actually is quite a bit anti-Christian when you hear people talking about Tebow.

eg8r

Qtec
01-16-2012, 04:11 AM
No, not anti-Christian. Just anti overt signs of Religion in sport.

Again, does have to choose how wins on the basis of Prayer?

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it.

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LWW
01-16-2012, 04:36 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, not anti-Christian. Just anti overt signs of Religion in sport.

Again, does have to choose how wins on the basis of Prayer?

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it.

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THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOREVER.

eg8r
01-16-2012, 05:21 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, not anti-Christian. Just anti overt signs of Religion in sport.

</div></div>So you flip flop pretty quickly. First you tell me, no it is about Tebow. Now you say no it is about anti overt signs of religion. I again disagree, there is a lot of anti-Christianity surrounding discussions of Tebow.

eg8r

LWW
01-16-2012, 06:38 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Qtec</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just look at all the anti-Christian hoopla that happens when you mention Tim Tebow? </div></div>

Nah. It might be anti-Tebow hoopla but not anti-Christian.

Imagine the outcry if an Islamic player got down on his knees and prayed!

Q

http://www.islamtimes.org/images/docs/000021/n00021501-b.jpg

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I agree ... the moonbat crazy left would see them as a courageous hero standing up to blah blah blah whatever yadda yadda yadda.